Sammy Sasso arrested

[BruceyB]

2 hours ago, ionel said:

Pretty sure many/most states have laws about smoking the weed while driving or even driving high especially crossing state lines.  It's been a problem for states next door the recreational states.  There's prob a reason the officer asked about a med card.  

I'm just assuming you're arguing to argue at this point. My initial point was that "travelling with drugs" is a very broad spectrum that ranges from a THC vape pen to a significant volume of marijuana or other substances under the same statement. I was just clarifying that he wasn't pulled over with a trunk full of drugs. He was caught with his personal device. The guns should be the crux of this.. not a f'ing vape pen.

[AgaveMaria]

BruceyB wrote:  "The guns are a terrible look and seem hard to justify. Why was he travelling with a semiautomatic handgun in the drivers side door? Why did he have three other handguns in a duffel bag? That's peculiar."

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All the paranoia over firearms.

He had a carry permit - at least for where he was moving from.

The number of pistols? Nothing odd about it for many. Same if it had been rifles or shotguns. 

Some folks like shooting and have many different rifles, pistols and shotguns. Also ammunition for them. 

Others have firearms in the vehicles as a normal thing. We shoot coyotes, raccoons, skunks and whatnot and generally have a rifle or two in the vehicles. One by the barn has an /06 and the pickup by the grain shed has a good .223.  Jump in and go and you have the rifle with you. Wouldn't leave them in the vehicles if it were in town - at least not laying in the well & on the seat.

The drug stuff tho - Sounds as if Pennsylvania is hard on it - and it is still illegal on the Federal level. 

Expired registration - just stupidity. Does he have active car insurance? 

[headshuck]

I forget, how did this make the “news?”

[ionel]

15 minutes ago, headshuck said:

I forget, how did this make the “news?”

journalists  it looks like a nothingburger but ...

[fishbane]

2 hours ago, AgaveMaria said:

All the paranoia over firearms.

He had a carry permit - at least for where he was moving from.

The number of pistols? Nothing odd about it for many. Same if it had been rifles or shotguns. 

Some folks like shooting and have many different rifles, pistols and shotguns. Also ammunition for them. 

Others have firearms in the vehicles as a normal thing. We shoot coyotes, raccoons, skunks and whatnot and generally have a rifle or two in the vehicles. One by the barn has an /06 and the pickup by the grain shed has a good .223.  Jump in and go and you have the rifle with you. Wouldn't leave them in the vehicles if it were in town - at least not laying in the well & on the seat.

The drug stuff tho - Sounds as if Pennsylvania is hard on it - and it is still illegal on the Federal level. 

Expired registration - just stupidity. Does he have active car insurance? 

It's a fine line between some of what he didn't being totally legal or a felony.  Only medical marijuana has been decriminalized statewide.  Recreational marijuana use has been decriminalized in some counties/jurisdictions but not all.  Most of the largest cities have decriminalized it.  This happened in Nazareth.  If it had been in nearby Bethlehem or Allentown recreational quantities have been decriminalized in both of those cities.  Crossing a municipal or county boundary can make a big difference with this. 

In some places you will not get pulled over for an expired registration in PA.  Philadelphia police do not pull cars over for expired registration/inspections under their Driving Equality ordinance.  He'd have to be doing something else to get pulled over in Philly.

There is no requirement to register guns in PA and one can carry openly outside of Philadelphia and Pittsburgh without a permit.  Traveling with a gun in the car he'd either need a carry permit or it would have to be unloaded, separate from the ammo, and in a locked container/trunk.  Not sure if it's true that his Ohio permit is no good in PA.  There should be reciprocity...

[BruceyB]

6 hours ago, AgaveMaria said:

BruceyB wrote:  "The guns are a terrible look and seem hard to justify. Why was he travelling with a semiautomatic handgun in the drivers side door? Why did he have three other handguns in a duffel bag? That's peculiar."

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All the paranoia over firearms.

He had a carry permit - at least for where he was moving from.

The number of pistols? Nothing odd about it for many. Same if it had been rifles or shotguns. 

Some folks like shooting and have many different rifles, pistols and shotguns. Also ammunition for them. 

Others have firearms in the vehicles as a normal thing. We shoot coyotes, raccoons, skunks and whatnot and generally have a rifle or two in the vehicles. One by the barn has an /06 and the pickup by the grain shed has a good .223.  Jump in and go and you have the rifle with you. Wouldn't leave them in the vehicles if it were in town - at least not laying in the well & on the seat.

The drug stuff tho - Sounds as if Pennsylvania is hard on it - and it is still illegal on the Federal level. 

Expired registration - just stupidity. Does he have active car insurance? 

In Washington state you cannot be pulled over for expired tabs. That can only be a secondary offense and the maximum penalty is updating your tabs to the current year without extra expenses for unpaid years. 
Is having 4 handguns the same as shotguns/rifles? I'd assume that if you have a handful or shotguns/rifles that is probably for hunting purposes. Why do you need 4 different handguns?
Drug stuff.. irrelevant on the grand scheme of what Sammy was up to. I'm not worried about him puffing on a TCH-vape-pen. 
Expired Registration: I bought a car under my parents address when I was college age, and if my parents didn't tell me my tabs were about to expire and they got the mail, there is a good chance I would have unknowingly had expired tabs. Call me negligent, but I've never paid that close of attention.
Only the gun questions really raise my eyebrows in this pullover.

Edited 6 hours ago by BruceyB

[Pinnacle]

The answer to 1 firearm is likely self defense. The answer to 4 firearms might be that he was at a gun range where he might have used each of the firearms. 

[Antitroll2828]

8 hours ago, fishbane said:

It's a fine line between some of what he didn't being totally legal or a felony.  Only medical marijuana has been decriminalized statewide.  Recreational marijuana use has been decriminalized in some counties/jurisdictions but not all.  Most of the largest cities have decriminalized it.  This happened in Nazareth.  If it had been in nearby Bethlehem or Allentown recreational quantities have been decriminalized in both of those cities.  Crossing a municipal or county boundary can make a big difference with this. 

In some places you will not get pulled over for an expired registration in PA.  Philadelphia police do not pull cars over for expired registration/inspections under their Driving Equality ordinance.  He'd have to be doing something else to get pulled over in Philly.

There is no requirement to register guns in PA and one can carry openly outside of Philadelphia and Pittsburgh without a permit.  Traveling with a gun in the car he'd either need a carry permit or it would have to be unloaded, separate from the ammo, and in a locked container/trunk.  Not sure if it's true that his Ohio permit is no good in PA.  There should be reciprocity...

You only have reciprocity with the Ohio permit if you still have an Ohio address , Sammy recently had moved back to PA making his Ohio CC invalid and PA like a lot of states the second a controlled substance is found the CC permit becomes invalid  

[fishbane]

1 hour ago, Antitroll2828 said:

You only have reciprocity with the Ohio permit if you still have an Ohio address , Sammy recently had moved back to PA making his Ohio CC invalid and PA like a lot of states the second a controlled substance is found the CC permit becomes invalid  

Are you sure of the address?  He was only announced to have been hired at Lehigh on 6/30.  When was his start date?   He may have paid rent in Ohio for July.  If he owned a house there it likely has not been sold yet.

If not having an Ohio address is the thing that resulted in the gun charge he likely talked himself into that.  He still had Ohio plates on the car.  If he didn't get around to taking care of the car then he likely still had an OH DL too.  Only way to know the concealed carry might not be good is if he told the officer he moved or he handed over a PA DL, but even that doesn't mean he doesn't he would be unsuccessful arguing otherwise.

You're right that even if he can fix the carry permit problem the drugs would be an issue and result in a gun charge all the same.  If the gun was the basis for the search that discovered the vape pen and it turns out his permit is valid then it might be possible to suppress.