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2 hours ago, Bigbrog said:

Seems like an articulate guy but does go extreme on some issues.  I have a hard time believing he would get elected considering the amount of Jewish people in NY, but who knows.  He especially lost me when he said that there shouldn't be any billionaires and that the money should be spread out equally...yikes!

even obama was:

"I mean, you've got the first sort of mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that's a story-book, man,

but a communist is still a communist

 

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3 hours ago, Bigbrog said:

The more and more I hear this guy talk and the things he says I cannot believe he is this close to being mayor of NYC...yikes!

Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard. H. L. Mencken

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1 hour ago, Scouts Honor said:

what happens when we tax them into the poor house...

who do we tax next ? 

Everybody ... or maybe we don't need no more taxes.  🤷‍♀️

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2 hours ago, ionel said:

If billionaires are bad then millionairs are bad correct? 

With a non zero inflation # Over time (infinity) billionaires will be the poor.   You may have to wait some time but arbitrary “ceilings” are weird in so far as that.  
 

remember when Bernie bagged on millionaires …. Given he now is one he changed from M to B.  
 

Convenient.  

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Trump suggested he was an illegal alien. Which of course is Trump speak for "I don't like this non white person who has a different opinion than I do." 

Well he refers to the rich white person in California as scum, so I don’t think I’d read too much into his speak.
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On 6/30/2025 at 9:09 AM, Bigbrog said:

Seems like an articulate guy but does go extreme on some issues.  I have a hard time believing he would get elected considering the amount of Jewish people in NY, but who knows.  He especially lost me when he said that there shouldn't be any billionaires and that the money should be spread out equally...yikes!

He has tremendous support amongst young jews. He comes out of a political organization that is heavily jewish. 

He’s also never said a bad thing about jews. The mainstream party and media are being very slippery about this. They are trying to make him answer for what *other people* have said to make voters associate him with positions he doesn’t hold.

He’s maintained that Israel has a right to exist as a state with equal rights. 

He’s said antisemitism is a major problem that needs to be addressed.

He does not use the phrase “globalize the intifada.” All he’s said is he wouldn’t ban the phrase because it means different things to different people and the NYC mayor’s job is not to police speech. I’d love to see our 1A supporters on here explain why that’s wrong. 

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2 hours ago, uncle bernard said:

1 billion is 1000x more than 1 million, so no. 

... but a billionaire could be 10x or even less of a millionaire.   They both sound nasty & scary to me.   😯

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3 hours ago, uncle bernard said:

He has tremendous support amongst young jews. He comes out of a political organization that is heavily jewish. 

He’s also never said a bad thing about jews. The mainstream party and media are being very slippery about this. They are trying to make him answer for what *other people* have said to make voters associate him with positions he doesn’t hold.

He’s maintained that Israel has a right to exist as a state with equal rights. 

He’s said antisemitism is a major problem that needs to be addressed.

He does not use the phrase “globalize the intifada.” All he’s said is he wouldn’t ban the phrase because it means different things to different people and the NYC mayor’s job is not to police speech. I’d love to see our 1A supporters on here explain why that’s wrong. 

Can you provide any proof that "he has tremendous support amongst young jews"?  I searched and couldn't find any source that indicates he has much support from the Jewish population in NYC.

Also, I watched several clips of the news reporter asking if he condemns the phrase "globalize the intifada" and he never condemns it...he talks around the issue and says things like you indicated above but that doesn't mean he condemns the phrase.  I truly question why he can't just come out and say he condemns it.

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10 minutes ago, Bigbrog said:

Can you provide any proof that "he has tremendous support amongst young jews"?  I searched and couldn't find any source that indicates he has much support from the Jewish population in NYC.

Also, I watched several clips of the news reporter asking if he condemns the phrase "globalize the intifada" and he never condemns it...he talks around the issue and says things like you indicated above but that doesn't mean he condemns the phrase.  I truly question why he can't just come out and say he condemns it.

I specifically said he doesn't condemn it, and he doesn't on free speech grounds (which Conservatives are supposed to support).

"Intifada" is just the arabic word for "uprising." Until a year ago, it was the word the Holocaust Museum used to describe the Warsaw Ghetto uprising in their arabic translations.

Like many words, it means different things to different people, and it's not the job of the NYC mayor, or any politician, to police speech in this country. He has said explicitly that he does not use the term himself and that Israel has a right to exist as a state with equal rights.

His support among Jewish voters reflects his support among all voters - if you're young, you likely support him. The full numbers won't be clear for a bit, but estimates show he got 20% of the Jewish vote, most of it young. There's a pretty good chance based on those numbers, he won the majority of Jewish voters under 35.

Young Jews have very different views on Israel than their parents and grandparents. It's not above criticism for them, and many feel the conflation of *all Jews* with Israel is itself anti-semitic. Most Jews in the world are not Israeli, yet so many people conflate the two without thinking.

For his support among Jewish voters: https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/democrats-americas-jewish-city-embraced-critic-israel-new-123316532

"Mamdani's success reflects the ideological realignment of many American Jews since the Oct. 7, 2023, attack by Hamas on Israel that led to Israel's invasion of Gaza. Many Democratic voters, including Jews, have grown dismayed by Israel’s conduct in the war and are deeply critical of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. That is especially true among younger, more progressive voters, many of whom have rejected the once-broadly accepted notion that anti-Israel sentiment is inherently antisemitic."

"Aiyana Leong Knauer, a 35-year-old Brooklyn bartender who is Jewish and backed Mamdani, said the vote represented “New Yorkers, many of them Jewish, saying we care more about having an affordable city than sowing division.”

“Many of us take really deep offense to our history being weaponized against us,” she said. “Jewish people all over the world have well-founded fears for their safety, but Jews in New York are safe overall.”"

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This should be obvious, but:

The assumption that every Jew in the world supports and has an unbreakable alliance to the State of Israel is incredibly antisemitic. Jews don't have "dual loyalty." That's the oldest antisemitic trope in existence.

No ethnic group is a hive mind. There is tremendous diversity of belief among the Jewish community. You'd think that, arguably, the sitting American politician most critical of Israel is himself Jewish would help people understand that.

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