Carter Starocci faces allegations of sexual assault and theft

[wrestlingfan22]

3 minutes ago, Ragu said:

And Cassar just sits there

Every clip from Bo's pod I watch (normally him interviewing PSU wrestlers) is him talking for 40 seconds, them saying something in response then it just cuts to Cassar sitting there like a cardboard cutout

[ionel]

9 minutes ago, wrestlingfan22 said:

29:55 if you want to see Willie and Basch with some all-time thatagedpoorly takes

 

... oh my ...

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

1 hour ago, cl415 said:

Willie… maybe he really had no idea what was happening.

Basch on the other hand. Fuk that guy. He was supposedly tight with Beau and he acted like nothing bad was happening just to protect Cael and the program. He is a PR guy disguised as a media member. Disgusting behavior from him. 

Brands: "paid hater"

[MPhillips]

1 minute ago, ionel said:

 

... oh my ...

Told ya...

[Fletcher]

Wonder if he did excessive oil checks when wrestling with Jake Varner. Would that be similar to when criminals do "suicide by cop"?

[Fletcher]

3 minutes ago, wrestlingfan22 said:

Every clip from Bo's pod I watch (normally him interviewing PSU wrestlers) is him talking for 40 seconds, them saying something in response then it just cuts to Cassar sitting there like a cardboard cutout

They're all like when Chris Farley interviews Paul McCartney on SNL.

[goheels1812]

No worries folks- you can go from being a coach that knowingly allows heinous things to happen to your team straight to being a politician! The future is still bright for Cael, one way or another.  

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

1 hour ago, Caveira said:

Don’t forget kids have more NIL cash today compared to x years ago… I wouldn’t understate their ability to buy nonsense they don’t need because they are well kids.  

I think "Nothingburger" Basch said one of the reasons Bartlett didn't return this year is that he was already making six figures + doing whatever it is he does.  Maybe graphic design?  Computer related?  Whatever it was,  I guess he had a solid source of income.

[wrestlingfan22]

2 minutes ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

I think "Nothingburger" Basch said one of the reasons Bartlett didn't return this year is that he was already making six figures + doing whatever it is he does.  Maybe graphic design?  Computer related?  Whatever it was,  I guess he had a solid source of income.

Him and his wife both have real big social media accounts. She in specific has 1million followers on TikTok 

[ionel]

2 minutes ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

I think "Nothingburger" Basch said 

... but how many times does a normal person say "nothingburger" inside 2 minutes? 

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

1 hour ago, Ragu said:

Couldn't make contact for 6 months over their investigation. They know where he will be at least once a day everyday of the week, that's BS

They also needed him to admit to being a thief before taking action?

[Fletcher]

1 hour ago, ionel said:

... searching the football locker room ...

They checked the football stadium, soccer field, basketball court, volleyball gym, track & field. There was literally nowhere else to look.

[Fletcher]

Why's he stealing shoes? That's gross and probably not even the right size. Probably doing that just to be a dick and screw with Bartlett cause there's no benefit to him with taking someone else's smelly, too-small shoe. 

[Ragu]

8 minutes ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

They also needed him to admit to being a thief before taking action?

Why are you even remotely defending his actions? He knew they were looking for him and did nothing to help

[BAC]

2 hours ago, JimmyCinnabon said:

I am done. As a PSU alum and massive PSU wrestling fan I am finished with PSU wrestling. How many times is Penn State going to go through this before a coach learns? I doubt you'll see me around here much longer since I have no interest in rooting for another program and I won't be watching PSU wrestling anymore. I really have no words to describe just how braindead these people are.

Jimmy my man, I'm not here to tell you who to root for, but you're making an awful lot of assumptions based on a very small amount of evidence.  Not every miscreant is a Jerry Sandusky, and not every coach/admint response that doesn't rectify it a Curley/Paterno.  

It looks bad for Starocci, as I see no reason for Beau to lie.  But remember, a lot of these other allegations are anonymous, and most have never been reported to police (or PSU).  In any case, one bad apple does not mean the whole tree is rotten.   

As I wrote earlier, there's a lot of open questions about what the coaches knew and what was reported to them.  There's no indication that anyone complained about his behavior toward women or, importantly, his in-practice conduct. If they were, those are game changers, but no one is saying that.  As to the theft, I'm not sure what a coach can do besides point Beau to the police, as they aren't detectives. Once reported to police, it is not appropriate for coaches to intervene.

The photo of Beau while naked is the most serious of the allegations that are said to have been reported to coaches.  But even there, there's much we don't know. Beau was naked, but did the photo itself show his privates?  If it did, was it immediately deleted? If not, was it among those posted to a group chat? When reported, did the coaches (a) ignore it, (b) discipline Starocci, but short of booting him, (c) report it up the chain, and they did nothing? Even if an AD dropped the ball, were the coaches willfully ignorant about what they knew to be serious (as they were aware of other perverted conduct), or did they understand this to be low-grade misconduct? I can see scenarios where there is culpability on the part of the coach it was reported to, but I also can see scenarios where it was handled properly.

If you want to take the position that "if a student-athlete ever takes a locker photo of a naked teammate, they should be immediately kicked off the team, no questions asked," you can. In the aftermath of this, I suspect some will take exactly that position. But it strikes me as extreme, as misconduct like this is highly fact-specific. Taking a picture as a gag and promptly deleting it after a laugh is far less culpable than posting a pic of his wang on a group chat, there's the related question whether it's a joke gone awry or more vindictive (as Beau sees it). From our vantage point, it's the other reports of misconduct that makes the photo so problematic, but it isn't clear the coaches had the benefit of that lens.

To be clear, I'm not trying to make excuses.  I'll be at the front of the line calling for resignations/firings if there's facts showing real culpability. But I loathe snap judgments based on one-sided ambiguity-laden reporting. Let the facts come out before making judgments based on facts you don't have.  I'd join you in calling for an investigation, but not for calling for anyone's head at this juncture.

[RandolphTJones]

22 minutes ago, Mr. PeanutButter said:

I haven't used Snapchat since my whoring days but I believe messages and pictures exchanged on the app disappear after a set period of time. Still, there might be screenshots!

You were never a whore!

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

2 minutes ago, Ragu said:

Why are you even remotely defending his actions? He knew they were looking for him and did nothing to help

Uh, I'm not... I despise the guy.  

Did you read the article?  It literally said the police could only take action if he admitted to the theft.  That's ludicrous.

Almost as ludicrous as you coming at me over my criticism of the police protocol.

[Jimmy Cinnabon]

3 hours ago, JimmyCinnabon said:

I am done. As a PSU alum and massive PSU wrestling fan I am finished with PSU wrestling. How many times is Penn State going to go through this before a coach learns? I doubt you'll see me around here much longer since I have no interest in rooting for another program and I won't be watching PSU wrestling anymore. I really have no words to describe just how braindead these people are.

So I guess you won't be posting here any more?  Cya.

[Jimmy Cinnabon]

7 minutes ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

Uh, I'm not... I despise the guy.  

Did you read the article?  It literally said the police could only take action if he admitted to the theft.  That's ludicrous.

Almost as ludicrous as you coming at me over my criticism of the police protocol.

They said they could only take action if he admitted it because there was no actual evidence that he stole anything.  They reviewed the security camera footage and he was never seen with the allegedly stolen items.  Seems pretty logical to me.

Edited 8 hours ago by Jimmy Cinnabon

[pawrestler]

I noticed Basch didn't make an infographic yet so I thought I'd help him out

[Ragu]

7 minutes ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

Uh, I'm not... I despise the guy.  

Did you read the article?  It literally said the police could only take action if he admitted to the theft.  That's ludicrous.

Almost as ludicrous as you coming at me over my criticism of the police protocol.

Not a fan of either entity (police or CStar) but are they not able to make physical contact to try and get the admitting of guilt?

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

Just now, Ragu said:

Not a fan of either entity (police or CStar) but are they not able to make physical contact to try and get the admitting of guilt?

Read the article, bro

[Ragu]

4 minutes ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

Read the article, bro

“Penn State police were unable to contact Starocci over the course of the nearly six month investigation, Beau said. Since they couldn’t get an admission of guilt from Starocci, the case was closed and referred to student conduct.” 
says nothing about what protocol was used to try and contact CStar

Edited 8 hours ago by Ragu

[Dogbone]

49 minutes ago, RandolphTJones said:

Bo Nickal loves to talk. Curious what he will say about this. I'm sure a podcast from him will be out sooner rather than later.

He will pray for those who would make these allegations, acknowledge that all men are fallible  and this is all part of the CStar's faith journey. Then tell all the hater they can [QV w/ undercover cop Kyle Snyder style]

[BarSeries]