Trump Declares War On LA

[red viking]

5 minutes ago, Scouts Honor said:

yes i know you are bad at connections.

newsome has a really violent and volatile situation in LA right now

didn't want the guard there. and LA police basically stood down.

 

but in 2021... he needed to have this place shut down right now... b/c why...

politics

Their law enforcement was doing fine. National guard has escalated the problems. 

Edited Monday at 08:30 PM by red viking

[Scouts Honor]

lol... escalated... it was already escalated.

the LE was doing nothing

remember,, just like you said.. they were watching the phones or something

it's amazing with you.

[ionel]

11 minutes ago, red viking said:

Their law enforcement was doing fine. National guard has escalated the problems. 

How so? 

[red viking]

5 minutes ago, ionel said:

How so? 

There was no major threat bad enough that required nat guard to force their way in there. Not even close. 

Protests got worse when they arrived. Now trumotard doubles down w active duty marines. I'm sure they'll deescalate. 

Btw you pay for this w your taxes. 

Edited Monday at 08:48 PM by red viking

[ionel]

Just now, red viking said:

There was no major threat bad enough that required nat guard to force their way in there. Not even close. 

Btw you pay for this w your taxes. 

But why would just having national guard standing around protecting innocent citizens and property cause left wingers to go nuts and start blowing up everything? 

[mspart]

The issue here is that ICE was lawfully fulfilling their duties.   The demonstration against them arose from them lawfully executing the law.   It is not so much Trump is declaring war on CA, but rather CA declaring war on ICE, a federal agency.   As such, the federal government has every right to protect ICE officers.   I heard a news report in CA this morning where the guy was saying all they are doing is "enjoying themselves watching cars burn."   Well, now, obviously there is no harm in that.   LA police have this thing completely under control with cars burning, people looting stores, rock and concrete being thrown at law enforcement officers, freeways being backed up, things being thrown off of over passes including Lime Bikes.   Newsome nor Bass see any reason to stop this madness.  As we saw in Minny and in Seattle and Portland, the absence of law enforcement allows the peaceful protests to continue indefinitely.  Because there is no reason not to.   Again, Newsome nor Bass see anything wrong with this.   That is the problem right there. 

mspart

[red viking]

11 minutes ago, mspart said:

The issue here is that ICE was lawfully fulfilling their duties.   The demonstration against them arose from them lawfully executing the law.   It is not so much Trump is declaring war on CA, but rather CA declaring war on ICE, a federal agency.   As such, the federal government has every right to protect ICE officers.   I heard a news report in CA this morning where the guy was saying all they are doing is "enjoying themselves watching cars burn."   Well, now, obviously there is no harm in that.   LA police have this thing completely under control with cars burning, people looting stores, rock and concrete being thrown at law enforcement officers, freeways being backed up, things being thrown off of over passes including Lime Bikes.   Newsome nor Bass see any reason to stop this madness.  As we saw in Minny and in Seattle and Portland, the absence of law enforcement allows the peaceful protests to continue indefinitely.  Because there is no reason not to.   Again, Newsome nor Bass see anything wrong with this.   That is the problem right there. 

mspart

There was some limited violence as there often is at a large protest but nothing extreme. 

Vast overreach by the winger idiots. 

What are the active duty marines gonna do? 

Edited Monday at 09:04 PM by red viking

[Caveira]

1 hour ago, red viking said:

Cherry picked locality

Here’s a list of 25 major U.S. cities reported to be experiencing staffing shortages in their police departments, based on recent news coverage and data:

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Urban Police Staffing Shortages

1. New York City – ~3,247 officer vacancies latimes.com+12officer.com+12newsweek.com+12

2. Chicago – ~1,367 officer vacancies

3. Los Angeles – ~1,086 officer vacancies reddit.com+15officer.com+15dailytelegraph.com.au+15

4. Philadelphia – ~1,140 vacancies (budgeted 6,380 vs. ~6,112 staffed) foxbusiness.com

5. San Francisco – ~410 officers short of optimal levelsheraldsun.com.au+15officer.com+15dailytelegraph.com.au+15

6. Phoenix – ~360 officer shortages actionnews5.com+8networkworldnews.com+8reddit.com+8

7. Washington, D.C. – ~467 vacancies dailytelegraph.com.au+1en.wikipedia.org+1

8. Baltimore – ~418 officer vacancies en.wikipedia.org+3officer.com+3haasalert.com+3

9. Houston – Ongoing shortages despite historically high budgetsnetworkworldnews.com+15officer.com+15reddit.com+15

10. Oakland – Heavy reliance on overtime due to vacancies sfchronicle.com+1axios.com+1

11. Seattle – Lost 400 officers since 2020; detective ranks down 40%latimes.com+12foxnews.com+12dailytelegraph.com.au+12

12. Atlanta – Cited staffing issues and recruitment difficulty newsweek.com+3cnn.com+3actionnews5.com+3

13. Dallas – Down ~550 officers cnn.com

14. Portland (OR) – >100 unfilled officer roles & detective shortages cnn.com

15. Kansas City, MO – Short ~200 officers; non-fatal shootings per detective rising reddit.com

16. Memphis – ~400-officer deficit; recruitment incentives offered newsweek.com

17. Las Vegas – Listed among cities with recruitment shortfallsadelaidenow.com.au+15newsweek.com+15cnn.com+15

18. Cleveland – Reported staffing challenges reddit.com+9newsweek.com+9sfchronicle.com+9

19. Milwaukee – Facing recruitment gaps newsweek.com

20. St. Louis – Police reported as understaffed reddit.com+1reddit.com+1

21. Springfield, MO – Included in cities with staffing problems

22. Indianapolis – Record low staffing (~300 fewer officers since 2019) en.wikipedia.org+2officer.com+2axios.com+2

23. Long Beach, CA – Over 100 sworn positions unfilled haasalert.com

24. Albuquerque – Only ~1,000 sworn on duty; authorized 1,400 en.wikipedia.org

25. Minneapolis – Only 564 of 731 authorized street officers available en.wikipedia.org+1adelaidenow.com.au+1

 

Cities 26–50 (Additional Reports of Understaffing)

26. Detroit, MI – Large department with recruitment strugglesapbweb.com+9en.wikipedia.org+9newsweek.com+9newsweek.com+1officer.com+1

27. San Antonio, TX – Ranked among municipalities with hiring gaps

28. San Diego, CA – Listed as a large department; ongoing post‑2020 recruitment issuesfoxnews.com+8en.wikipedia.org+8officer.com+8

29. Charlotte (Mecklenburg County), NC – Major department with reported staffing pressures

30. Columbus, OH – High overtime costs due to vacancies wsj.com+15newsweek.com+15timesunion.com+15

31. Fort Worth, TX – Large force facing backlog, recruitment delays en.wikipedia.org

32. Honolulu, HI – Staff turnover challenging department stability foxnews.com+9governing.com+9minnpost.com+9

33. Nassau County, NY – Facing understaffing in detective and patrol unitstime.com+7oaklandside.org+7apbweb.com+7

34. Suffolk County, NY – Suburban precincts struggling to fill roles reddit.com+13cnn.com+13axios.com+13

35. Denver, CO – Larger metro-area department with hiring shortfalls reddit.com+15minnpost.com+15officer.com+15

36. Tucson, AZ – Noted in statewide recruitment shortage report

37. Louisville, KY – Around 300 missing officers from the authorized counten.wikipedia.org+11foxnews.com+11foxnews.com+11

38. Boston, MA – Historic staffing gap in a major police department officer.com+2axios.com+2reddit.com+2

39. Milwaukee, WI – Repeated recruitment and retention issues

40. Cleveland, OH – Over 300 openings still vacant newsnationnow.com

41. New Orleans, LA – 270 NOPD positions unfilled (~19%) reddit.com

42. Montgomery County, MD – County-level force under extreme staffing pressureminnpost.com+8reddit.com+8foxnews.com+8

43. Fremont, CA – Suburban department facing overtime and slow response minnpost.com+1dailytelegraph.com.au+1

44. Flint, MI – Continual downsizing over decades

45. Austin, TX – Budget cuts paused cadet classes; non-emergency calls droppeden.wikipedia.org+3en.wikipedia.org+3reddit.com+3

46. Kansas City County Police, MO – Mirroring city’s staffing issues newsweek.com+1reddit.com+1

47. Phoenix, AZ – More than 450 vacancies

48. Memphis, TN – Around 400 officers short en.wikipedia.org+14newsweek.com+14minnpost.com+14

49. Portland (ME) – Shared trends with OR; 20% below ideal staffing officer.com

50. Baltimore County, MD – Large county force with lengthy recruitment delays

[Caveira]

1 hour ago, Scouts Honor said:

i didn't list any.

@Caveira listed 4

I now listed 50 

@Scouts Honor @red viking

[red viking]

1 minute ago, Caveira said:

 

Here’s a list of 25 major U.S. cities reported to be experiencing staffing shortages in their police departments, based on recent news coverage and data:

---

Urban Police Staffing Shortages

1. New York City – ~3,247 officer vacancies latimes.com+12officer.com+12newsweek.com+12

2. Chicago – ~1,367 officer vacancies

3. Los Angeles – ~1,086 officer vacancies reddit.com+15officer.com+15dailytelegraph.com.au+15

4. Philadelphia – ~1,140 vacancies (budgeted 6,380 vs. ~6,112 staffed) foxbusiness.com

5. San Francisco – ~410 officers short of optimal levelsheraldsun.com.au+15officer.com+15dailytelegraph.com.au+15

6. Phoenix – ~360 officer shortages actionnews5.com+8networkworldnews.com+8reddit.com+8

7. Washington, D.C. – ~467 vacancies dailytelegraph.com.au+1en.wikipedia.org+1

8. Baltimore – ~418 officer vacancies en.wikipedia.org+3officer.com+3haasalert.com+3

9. Houston – Ongoing shortages despite historically high budgetsnetworkworldnews.com+15officer.com+15reddit.com+15

10. Oakland – Heavy reliance on overtime due to vacancies sfchronicle.com+1axios.com+1

11. Seattle – Lost 400 officers since 2020; detective ranks down 40%latimes.com+12foxnews.com+12dailytelegraph.com.au+12

12. Atlanta – Cited staffing issues and recruitment difficulty newsweek.com+3cnn.com+3actionnews5.com+3

13. Dallas – Down ~550 officers cnn.com

14. Portland (OR) – >100 unfilled officer roles & detective shortages cnn.com

15. Kansas City, MO – Short ~200 officers; non-fatal shootings per detective rising reddit.com

16. Memphis – ~400-officer deficit; recruitment incentives offered newsweek.com

17. Las Vegas – Listed among cities with recruitment shortfallsadelaidenow.com.au+15newsweek.com+15cnn.com+15

18. Cleveland – Reported staffing challenges reddit.com+9newsweek.com+9sfchronicle.com+9

19. Milwaukee – Facing recruitment gaps newsweek.com

20. St. Louis – Police reported as understaffed reddit.com+1reddit.com+1

21. Springfield, MO – Included in cities with staffing problems

22. Indianapolis – Record low staffing (~300 fewer officers since 2019) en.wikipedia.org+2officer.com+2axios.com+2

23. Long Beach, CA – Over 100 sworn positions unfilled haasalert.com

24. Albuquerque – Only ~1,000 sworn on duty; authorized 1,400 en.wikipedia.org

25. Minneapolis – Only 564 of 731 authorized street officers available en.wikipedia.org+1adelaidenow.com.au+1

 

 

Cities 26–50 (Additional Reports of Understaffing)

26. Detroit, MI – Large department with recruitment strugglesapbweb.com+9en.wikipedia.org+9newsweek.com+9newsweek.com+1officer.com+1

27. San Antonio, TX – Ranked among municipalities with hiring gaps

28. San Diego, CA – Listed as a large department; ongoing post‑2020 recruitment issuesfoxnews.com+8en.wikipedia.org+8officer.com+8

29. Charlotte (Mecklenburg County), NC – Major department with reported staffing pressures

30. Columbus, OH – High overtime costs due to vacancies wsj.com+15newsweek.com+15timesunion.com+15

31. Fort Worth, TX – Large force facing backlog, recruitment delays en.wikipedia.org

32. Honolulu, HI – Staff turnover challenging department stability foxnews.com+9governing.com+9minnpost.com+9

33. Nassau County, NY – Facing understaffing in detective and patrol unitstime.com+7oaklandside.org+7apbweb.com+7

34. Suffolk County, NY – Suburban precincts struggling to fill roles reddit.com+13cnn.com+13axios.com+13

35. Denver, CO – Larger metro-area department with hiring shortfalls reddit.com+15minnpost.com+15officer.com+15

36. Tucson, AZ – Noted in statewide recruitment shortage report

37. Louisville, KY – Around 300 missing officers from the authorized counten.wikipedia.org+11foxnews.com+11foxnews.com+11

38. Boston, MA – Historic staffing gap in a major police department officer.com+2axios.com+2reddit.com+2

39. Milwaukee, WI – Repeated recruitment and retention issues

40. Cleveland, OH – Over 300 openings still vacant newsnationnow.com

41. New Orleans, LA – 270 NOPD positions unfilled (~19%) reddit.com

42. Montgomery County, MD – County-level force under extreme staffing pressureminnpost.com+8reddit.com+8foxnews.com+8

43. Fremont, CA – Suburban department facing overtime and slow response minnpost.com+1dailytelegraph.com.au+1

44. Flint, MI – Continual downsizing over decades

45. Austin, TX – Budget cuts paused cadet classes; non-emergency calls droppeden.wikipedia.org+3en.wikipedia.org+3reddit.com+3

46. Kansas City County Police, MO – Mirroring city’s staffing issues newsweek.com+1reddit.com+1

47. Phoenix, AZ – More than 450 vacancies

48. Memphis, TN – Around 400 officers short en.wikipedia.org+14newsweek.com+14minnpost.com+14

49. Portland (ME) – Shared trends with OR; 20% below ideal staffing officer.com

50. Baltimore County, MD – Large county force with lengthy recruitment delays

Almost every federal and state agency claims they are shortstaffed. But the hypocritical wingers only want more cops. Screw the teachers and other govt workers. 

[Caveira]

1 minute ago, red viking said:

Almost every federal and state agency claims they are shortstaffed. But the hypocritical wingers only want more cops. Screw the teachers and other govt workers. 

You’re not worth the time boss.  

[red viking]

So do we need active duty marines here?

[red viking]

More hypocrisy is that the wingers support state rights but not now

[ionel]

A peaceful Waymo taxi fire.

[Caveira]

29 minutes ago, red viking said:

More hypocrisy is that the wingers support state rights but not now

Why do states need rights when enforcing federal law.    If states won’t enforce federal law then the federal government will.   At least this one will.  

[mspart]

47 minutes ago, red viking said:

There was some limited violence as there often is at a large protest but nothing extreme. 

Vast overreach by the winger idiots. 

What are the active duty marines gonna do? 

Yes, it was mostly peaceful.  

mspart

 

[mspart]

LAPD had this perfectly under control yes indeedy. 

mspart

[Caveira]

I think newsome is suing Trump lol.   Political Stunts.  

[Caveira]

Trump endorses arrest of Gavin Newsom

https://ktla.com/news/california/trump-endorses-arrest-of-gavin-newsom/amp/

[mspart]

1 hour ago, red viking said:

More hypocrisy is that the wingers support state rights but not now

I would say everyone supports states rights.   But supporting the state's right not to enforce the law, even their own law, is asking a bit much eh?  They refuse to enforce federal law and they refuse to allow the feds to enforce federal law.   How is that state's rights?

mspart

[JimmySpeaks]

1 hour ago, red viking said:

More hypocrisy is that the wingers support state rights but not now

The hypocrisy is you don’t support states rights for abortion 

[El Luchador]

 

 

 

[JimmySpeaks]

But but but there’s Canadian smoke and people have auto immune disease.  

[Offthemat]

12 minutes ago, El Luchador said:

 

 

 

Define: insurrection 

[Paul158]

3 hours ago, mspart said:

Yes, it was mostly peaceful.  

mspart

 

Nothing here. Just a nice peaceful protest.