Is beau Bartlett leaving state college. ?

[Hammerlock3]

Not implying whether these charges are true or not (i hope they are admittedly), but the "he has money why would he steal" argument is for complete moral idiots. Some people are just trashy, and in some cases that means that they aren't satisfied with what they've earned they think they're entitled to what other people have earned. 

[Fletcher]

I doubt Starocci was "violating" Kerkvleit without his consent. The other guys he may have been able to overpower.

Like the phoenix, Ped State rises from the ashes.

[BAC]

5 hours ago, 1032004 said:

I honestly thought the dbag persona was just an act for social media.  Maybe not.

Same.

[Hammerlock3]

14 minutes ago, BAC said:

Same.

i almost said "why would he choose that persona" but after the ferrari call out I realized he's a lot dumber than we're likely to suspect.

[okokzach]

[Caveira]

Getting more direct?  The wife reposted this … mentions the USA gymnastics scandal   

 

[pokemonster]

9 hours ago, Hammerlock3 said:

I just don't see how bartlett can some out of the other side of this looking good. He's either exaggerating something in the spirit of bitterness, or he's ineffectually exposing an actual scandal with timing that makes it seem like a reprisal. I guess he could have made a lot of good faith attempts to correct things within the system, but i still don't see what the point of this vagary is...again especially with the timing... 

Anddddd this is why people don't say anything. Because people victim blame. 

It sounds like the said individual is a creep, did some things that violate teammates and women. Good for them for speaking up, regardless of timing. 

[Hammerlock3]

25 minutes ago, pokemonster said:

Anddddd this is why people don't say anything. Because people victim blame. 

It sounds like the said individual is a creep, did some things that violate teammates and women. Good for them for speaking up, regardless of timing. 

they haven't spoken up yet. Also the term "victim blaming" is semantically fascist, it ignores what I'm saying in favor of the ridiculous narrative that I'm aware of a wrongdoing and ignoring it for no reason. 

 

Edited June 9 by Hammerlock3

[flyingcement]

51 minutes ago, Hammerlock3 said:

they haven't spoken up yet. Also the term "victim blaming" is semantically fascist, it ignores what I'm saying in favor of the ridiculous narrative that I'm aware of a wrongdoing and ignoring it for no reason. 

 

Calling a concept like victim blaming “fascist” is a rhetorical move to delegitimize it entirely — which makes it difficult to have a nuanced discussion about harm, responsibility, or systemic patterns.  Of course at this point, we don't have a great deal of evidence of the latter either.  

[Hammerlock3]

5 minutes ago, flyingcement said:

Calling a concept like victim blaming “fascist” is a rhetorical move to delegitimize it entirely — which makes it difficult to have a nuanced discussion about harm, responsibility, or systemic patterns.  Of course at this point, we don't have a great deal of evidence of the latter either.  

The term "victim blaming" exists to make nuanced discussion impossible, and yes I am trying to delegitimize it entirely. 

Edited June 9 by Hammerlock3

[flyingcement]

48 minutes ago, Hammerlock3 said:

The term "victim blaming" exists to make nuanced discussion impossible, and yes I am trying to delegitimize it entirely. 

You're free to reject the term 'victim blaming,' but that doesn't erase the behavior it describes. Dismissing it entirely doesn’t open up nuance — it shuts it down. It tells people who’ve been harmed that the patterns they've experienced don't matter, or worse, that pointing them out is itself a problem. That’s not a neutral stance — it has consequences.

We can talk about where the term is misused, sure. But to claim it shouldn't exist at all is like saying there's no such thing as silencing or blame-shifting. And that's just not a conversation I'm willing to pretend is balanced or constructive

[Antitroll2828]

Question why does the prevailing opinion seem to be what Bartlett and wife are saying is gospel and starocci is a bad person? 
 

Other then being the worse trash talker ever and saying cringe stuff what has Starocci ever done to make everyone instantly believe he’s a thief and terrible person? 5 years at penn state and this is only negative thing a teammate has said about him , and he happens to be one of the highest paid wrestlers in the ncaa so unless he really has some deep mental problems the whole thief thing seems weird 

 

also Bartlett says he has been living with a sense of fear and intimidation for years  but voluntarily came back for a 5th year? He could have transferred anywhere and would have been paid handsomely wherever he landed. Also the timing and the vagueness of the post are questionable as well. Also with the stealing accusations are they saying Carter was stealing Beau wallet and iPad or was it like Carter being a jerk and taking his shoes or shorts ( I’ve had teammates that would do this to guys) 2 totally different situations we re talking about 
 

I don’t doubt that Carter may have been a prick to Bartlett (they seem to have polar opposite personalities) but this whole thing doesn’t seem like it’s amounts to a scandal or anything serious and more likely just some pettiness between 2 guys who have been forced to be around each other for too long with an opinionated spouse dropped in the middle

[1032004]

5 hours ago, Antitroll2828 said:

Question why does the prevailing opinion seem to be what Bartlett and wife are saying is gospel and starocci is a bad person? 
 

Other then being the worse trash talker ever and saying cringe stuff what has Starocci ever done to make everyone instantly believe he’s a thief and terrible person? 5 years at penn state and this is only negative thing a teammate has said about him , and he happens to be one of the highest paid wrestlers in the ncaa so unless he really has some deep mental problems the whole thief thing seems weird 

 

also Bartlett says he has been living with a sense of fear and intimidation for years  but voluntarily came back for a 5th year? He could have transferred anywhere and would have been paid handsomely wherever he landed. Also the timing and the vagueness of the post are questionable as well. Also with the stealing accusations are they saying Carter was stealing Beau wallet and iPad or was it like Carter being a jerk and taking his shoes or shorts ( I’ve had teammates that would do this to guys) 2 totally different situations we re talking about 
 

I don’t doubt that Carter may have been a prick to Bartlett (they seem to have polar opposite personalities) but this whole thing doesn’t seem like it’s amounts to a scandal or anything serious and more likely just some pettiness between 2 guys who have been forced to be around each other for too long with an opinionated spouse dropped in the middle

For me, I’m not sure if I’d say I thought Starocci was a “bad person,” but Bartlett has definitely always come across as a stand up dude so in a he said he said situation I would tend to believe him.  I acknowledge the timing isn’t the best, but that’s why I think it’s notable that he’s saying it was reported previously, it’s not like he’s first saying anything at all now.

[BloodRound]

Always had a feeling Carter was on some type of weirdo, behind the scenes behavior.  No one who openly talks about "dominating" others that much is of pure soul.

[Truzzcat]

12 hours ago, Caveira said:

Quote from Beau B’s wife on fb.        I can’t post pics so it’s a copy paste.  Apparently Cstar is being accusing of being a thief for stealing a bunch of stuff from his teammates and a second super vague accusation….     That and some super classy psu fans bagged on Beau and his wife on social media.   

fb quote from his wife:

He (Carter staroocci) is/was being investigated for theft. Aside from that investigation, he violated several of his teammates in ways that are absolutely not appropriate in any way and to my knowledge faced no repercussions for that behavior. I do not care how talented an individual is, how beneficial they may be for a teams optics or results. If they are causing discomfort to ANY DEGREE in the locker room or outside of it, IN MY PERSONAL OPINION, action should be taken. End of story.

What does violating teammates mean? Like hazing or sexually that's a very ambiguous term with extreme ranges of severity.

[Gene Mills Fan]

They had a bet on who could win the most matches without taking a shot. Carter wont pay up.

[Caveira]

23 minutes ago, Gene Mills Fan said:

They had a bet on who could win the most matches without taking a shot. Carter wont pay up.

Some guy on minnows page made this joke:

bet Beau wins this one 1-0 in overtime.   Lol.  
 

all joking aside looks official Beau going to nyc rtc.   Maybe they will spill the beans now.  

Edited June 9 by Caveira

[Fletcher]

6 hours ago, Antitroll2828 said:

Question why does the prevailing opinion seem to be what Bartlett and wife are saying is gospel and starocci is a bad person? 
 

Other then being the worse trash talker ever and saying cringe stuff what has Starocci ever done to make everyone instantly believe he’s a thief and terrible person? 5 years at penn state and this is only negative thing a teammate has said about him , and he happens to be one of the highest paid wrestlers in the ncaa so unless he really has some deep mental problems the whole thief thing seems weird 

 

also Bartlett says he has been living with a sense of fear and intimidation for years  but voluntarily came back for a 5th year? He could have transferred anywhere and would have been paid handsomely wherever he landed. Also the timing and the vagueness of the post are questionable as well. Also with the stealing accusations are they saying Carter was stealing Beau wallet and iPad or was it like Carter being a jerk and taking his shoes or shorts ( I’ve had teammates that would do this to guys) 2 totally different situations we re talking about 
 

I don’t doubt that Carter may have been a prick to Bartlett (they seem to have polar opposite personalities) but this whole thing doesn’t seem like it’s amounts to a scandal or anything serious and more likely just some pettiness between 2 guys who have been forced to be around each other for too long with an opinionated spouse dropped in the middle

You're right that we don't know what happened - hence an investigation. But Beau doesn't have much to gain with this and a whole lot to lose (reputationally; other wrestlers shunning him), so my gut feeling is there's something here and it's more than just locker room pranks.

IF there is a real issue here, I expect it will turn into a situation where the coverup is a bigger than the crime - i.e. admins. at PSU who were told about this and turned a blind eye until Starrocci finished out his career will have consequences.

[Fletcher]

Why is everyone saying the timing of this disclosure is suspect? It makes perfect sense to me. The guy doesn't want to rock the boat for the 5 yrs. he's trying to win a national title. He's also willing to stay at PSU and take some grief because that place gives him the best chance at a national title; plus we're wrestlers, we're trained to deal with and overcoming hardship.

Now he's on his way out the door - what better time to make this public?

[1032004]

Rivera is at NYC RTC right?  Seems like a good fit for Bartlett to be able to train with him, and live in a real city.

[Mr. PeanutButter]

28 minutes ago, Fletcher said:

Why is everyone saying the timing of this disclosure is suspect? It makes perfect sense to me. The guy doesn't want to rock the boat for the 5 yrs. he's trying to win a national title. He's also willing to stay at PSU and take some grief because that place gives him the best chance at a national title; plus we're wrestlers, we're trained to deal with and overcoming hardship.

Now he's on his way out the door - what better time to make this public?

I think only one obtuse poster is really pushing the narrative that the timing seems weird. Plus, it seems like fans attacking his wife online was an influence as well

[StanfordTree133]

2 hours ago, Caveira said:

Looks official Beau going to nyc rtc.   Maybe they will spill the beans now.  

Will be interesting to see what comes out on PSU now

[Hammerlock3]

10 hours ago, flyingcement said:

You're free to reject the term 'victim blaming,' but that doesn't erase the behavior it describes. Dismissing it entirely doesn’t open up nuance — it shuts it down. It tells people who’ve been harmed that the patterns they've experienced don't matter, or worse, that pointing them out is itself a problem. That’s not a neutral stance — it has consequences.

We can talk about where the term is misused, sure. But to claim it shouldn't exist at all is like saying there's no such thing as silencing or blame-shifting. And that's just not a conversation I'm willing to pretend is balanced or constructive

Would it be fair if I accused Bartlett's wife of "due process destroying" or some other term thats not even as semantically overloaded as "victim blaming". After all she's implying someone committed a crime and apparently she has no independent proof! she must be attacking the criminal justice system!

[Hammerlock3]

1 hour ago, Mr. PeanutButter said:

I think only one obtuse poster is really pushing the narrative that the timing seems weird. Plus, it seems like fans attacking his wife online was an influence as well

obtuse? You really think that its not worth pointing out that he was fine with all these crime until he was leaving? 

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

12 minutes ago, Hammerlock3 said:

obtuse? You really think that its not worth pointing out that he was fine with all these crime until he was leaving? 

Ummmm... maybe he wasn't?