Antifa in Seattle

[Caveira]

41 minutes ago, uncle bernard said:

Yes, they were arrested because that's illegal. What more do you want?

Prosecution to the fullest extent of the law.  Not standard liberal arrest and let go. 

[uncle bernard]

7 minutes ago, Caveira said:

Prosecution to the fullest extent of the law.  Not standard liberal arrest and let go. 

So you're complaining about something that hasn't even happened yet?

[Bigbrog]

2 minutes ago, uncle bernard said:

It was a right until you guys took it away against the wishes of the American people, so people are still pretty mad about that.

And trans healthcare = healthcare related to being trans (hormones, for example). 

I want you to literally type out what I wrote. 

So, you admit you were wrong because it is not a right....nice job!  By the way, who are "you guys"??  And people being "pretty mad" over what they think people are thinking means they can throw objects and pee at them?

Again, what HEALTHCARE is being banned, or being advocated to be banned??  I'll use the ONE "example" you can state... "hormones"...is that considered healthcare, or elective?  Or are we now redefining the definition of what "healthcare" is.  By the way...where is that even banned??

And LOL....you want me to re-write something you wrote and have already quoted...why??  So you can reiterate your horrible take that it really wasn't an awful thing they did??

The irony of all of this is that is this group is being criticized for truly engaging in a peacefully protest by someone who has admitted to partaking in campus protests/encampments....that right there is some bass akward thinking/hypocrisy at its finest.

[Caveira]

23 minutes ago, uncle bernard said:

So you're complaining about something that hasn't even happened yet?

I’m complaining about something that typically happens.   And I will believe it when I see it.  

[Caveira]

43 minutes ago, uncle bernard said:

So you're complaining about something that hasn't even happened yet?

Has anyone been charged yet ?  I have not seen it in the news as of yet   Monday it was reported no one was charged with a felony as of yet  

 

Throwing balloons filled with urine at individuals is illegal and can lead to serious criminal charges. Such actions are generally classified as assault or battery, and in certain situations, they may escalate to felony charges, particularly if the target is a law enforcement officer or other protected individual. People.com+1Coolidge Law Firm+1

Legal Classifications and Consequences:

• Assault and Battery: Intentionally causing someone to come into contact with urine can be prosecuted as battery, which involves unlawful physical contact. If the act places the victim in fear of imminent harm, it may also constitute assault. occje.org

• Aggravated Battery: In jurisdictions like Illinois, aggravated battery charges can apply if an individual knowingly causes a law enforcement officer or other protected person to come into contact with urine by throwing or expelling it. This offense is considered a Class 2 felony. Illinois General Assembly+1Ohio Laws+1WomensLaw.org+1Illinois General Assembly+1

Jurisdictional Variations:

Laws and penalties differ across jurisdictions. For instance, in Ohio, causing a law enforcement officer to come into contact with urine with intent to harass or alarm is classified as harassment with a bodily substance, a felony of the fifth degree. Ohio Laws

Case Example:

In a recent Florida case, a man was arrested for throwing bottles filled with urine into a business, resulting in charges of felony battery, criminal mischief, and aggravated assault. People.com

Conclusion:

Engaging in such conduct is not only hazardous and offensive but also exposes you to significant legal repercussions, including potential felony charges. It's crucial to be aware of and adhere to local laws to avoid such serious consequences.

[mspart]

https://komonews.com/news/local/cal-anderson-park-capitol-hill-neighborhood-protest-confrontation-seattle-police-department-lgbtq-protestors-pro-life-organization-christian-mayor-bruce-harrell-statement

Judge orders release of 7 protesters after Cal Anderson Park rally arrests

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Chris Daniels,KOMONewsSeniorReporter

Mon, May 26th 2025 at 6:11 PM

Updated Tue, May 27th 2025 at 10:43 AM

 

SEATTLE — A judge agreed to release at least seven people who were arrested over the weekend after a protest that devolved into confrontations with police at Cal Anderson Park.

Twenty-three people were arrested overall following the skirmish in the park that was prompted by a pair of competing rallies.

MayDay USA, which describes itself as a Christian Pro-Life organization, held the rally at the park. It was met by LGTBQ protesters in a competing rally. At some point, police were called in, and there were multiple scuffles between the group and officers.

Seattle Mayor Bruce Harrell, in a statement, questioned why the “far-right rally” was held there, suggesting it was meant “to provoke a reaction by promoting beliefs that are inherently opposed to our city’s values in the heart of Seattle’s most prominent LGBTQ+ neighborhood.”

He also blamed “anarchists” who “infiltrated the counter-protestors group and inspired violence.”

But on Monday, a Parks spokesperson suggested that MayDay USA asked for and received a permit to gather at Cal Anderson Park.

“Seattle Parks and Recreation permits a variety of events and gatherings in Seattle’s public parks – including rallies, protests, and free speech events. We are required to enable the expression of free speech throughout the parks system. This group originally requested a permit through the Special Events Office with the Office of Economic Development for a street location, and their first request to Seattle Parks and Recreation was for Cal Anderson. As the park was available and met the size and logistical needs for the event requested, the permit was granted,” according to Rachel Schulkin of the department.

The judge found probable cause on the arrest of the eight people, and only one, accused of assault and robbery, was forced to post a $20,000 bond. The others were released.

The King County Prosecutor’s Office says there have been no felony recommendations forwarded to the office. The Seattle City Attorney could also make misdemeanor decisions. But as of this writing, no one has been charged with a crime.

This is really funny.   This article only says that the church applied for Cal Anderson park, which is untrue according to their own reporting by the very same reporter:

https://komonews.com/news/local/mayday-usa-event-seattle-rally-counter-protest-cal-anderson-park-arrests-councilmember-bob-kettle-mistake-trans-transgender-lgbtq-abortion-rights-women

Council member criticizes permit decision for Mayday USA event at Seattle park

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Chris Daniels,KOMONewsStaff

Tue, May 27th 2025 at 3:20 PM

Updated Tue, May 27th 2025 at 6:13 PM

SEATTLE — Seattle City Councilmember Bob Kettle has called the city’s issuing of a permit for Cal Anderson Park to a right-wing organization a “mistake” following altercations at the park that resulted in 23 arrests on Saturday.

Seattle’s Parks Department acknowledges the group "MayDay USA" was granted a permit to rally at the park after first being denied an application to gather in a small pedestrian space outside Pike Place Market.

So they first applied for Pike Place Market but were denied that and they were given Cal Anderson Park.   It was a total setup and not what was requested.   As a result, Seattle is looking foolish at the least.

https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/arrests-made-at-heated-fascist-family-values-protest-in-seattle/

I highlighted the headline above to show that the Seattle Times has entered WAPO and NYT circles by projecting the behavior they obviously support onto the Christian group.   Fascists don't ask for a permit.   Fascists don't allow diverse opinions.   Does this sound familiar to anyone?   If your opinion differs, you are not worthy of consideration in D  and progressive circles.   You will be silenced.   BLM, antifa, etc do not get permits for their rallys.   They just go and do them.   I was a ST paperboy way back when and always subscribed.   I stopped some years ago because it was expensive and I was only reading the funnies and a few headlines.   Now, there is no way I'm considering going back.   I'll be writing to them to let them know, not that they will care.   They will just call me a fascist. 

mspart

 

 

[uncle bernard]

43 minutes ago, Bigbrog said:

So, you admit you were wrong because it is not a right....nice job!  By the way, who are "you guys"??  And people being "pretty mad" over what they think people are thinking means they can throw objects and pee at them?

Again, what HEALTHCARE is being banned, or being advocated to be banned??  I'll use the ONE "example" you can state... "hormones"...is that considered healthcare, or elective?  Or are we now redefining the definition of what "healthcare" is.  By the way...where is that even banned??

And LOL....you want me to re-write something you wrote and have already quoted...why??  So you can reiterate your horrible take that it really wasn't an awful thing they did??

The irony of all of this is that is this group is being criticized for truly engaging in a peacefully protest by someone who has admitted to partaking in campus protests/encampments....that right there is some bass akward thinking/hypocrisy at its finest.

 

Hormones are healthcare, yes. Pretty basic stuff there. 

And I want you to rewrite what I wrote so that you realize that what you said I wrote is not what I actually wrote. I know this is hard because you're barely literate, so I'll do it for you. I'll even bold the important part so you can't miss it.

Me: "I'm not going to pretend that this was some awful violation of civil rights either."

You: "guess having pee thrown on you isn't an awful thing"

Me: "awful violation of civil rights"

You: "awful thing"

Can you tell the difference between those two statements? Most fourth graders can.

[mspart]

UB, advocating for hormone therapy for minors, which is giving the wrong hormones for the sex of the child to try to alter them, is child abuse and sexual abuse.   These therapies often end up sterilizing the minors.   And they don't understsand the ramifications.  That is not healthcare, that is just simply abuse. 

mspart

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

16 minutes ago, uncle bernard said:

 

Hormones are healthcare, yes. Pretty basic stuff there. 

And I want you to rewrite what I wrote so that you realize that what you said I wrote is not what I actually wrote. I know this is hard because you're barely literate, so I'll do it for you. I'll even bold the important part so you can't miss it.

Me: "I'm not going to pretend that this was some awful violation of civil rights either."

You: "guess having pee thrown on you isn't an awful thing"

Me: "awful violation of civil rights"

You: "awful thing"

Can you tell the difference between those two statements? Most fourth graders can.

Are you the same guy who totally altered statements made by Israeli officials recently?

[uncle bernard]

43 minutes ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

Are you the same guy who totally altered statements made by Israeli officials recently?

No. I'm the guy who posted their full quotes admitting they want to ethnically cleanse Gaza.

[JimmySpeaks]

4 hours ago, uncle bernard said:

"public prayer event"

It was an anti-LGBTQ rally in the heart of one of the most liberal cities in the country. It's a part of a larger ultra-conservative Christian movement that refers to itself as "worship warfare." Their whole mission is to go into ultra-liberal areas and stir *I poop my pants, don't laugh at me* up so they can claim they are "under attack" afterwards.

Counter-protestors who broke the law were arrested. The group is continuing to publicly protest, as is their right protected under the constitution. They don't have a right for people not to hate them.

I live in a very liberal city. There are public prayer events here all the time. There are tons of churches, tons of Christians. They don't get counter-protested or harassed because they don't go out of their way to instigate. Don't be a psycho and people will treat you with respect.

Stir up?  You mean like taking over a part of a city and never giving it up?     Like CHAD 

[JimmySpeaks]

25 minutes ago, uncle bernard said:

No. I'm the guy who posted their full quotes admitting they want to ethnically cleanse Gaza.

Yes Hamas does want to cleanse Gaza from the river to the sea 

[JimmySpeaks]

1 hour ago, mspart said:

UB, advocating for hormone therapy for minors, which is giving the wrong hormones for the sex of the child to try to alter them, is child abuse and sexual abuse.   These therapies often end up sterilizing the minors.   And they don't understsand the ramifications.  That is not healthcare, that is just simply abuse. 

mspart

He’s very adamant that grooming is ok. 

[mspart]

4 minutes ago, JimmySpeaks said:

Stir up?  You mean like taking over a part of a city and never giving it up?     Like CHAD 

That would be CHAZ, then CHOP.   Capital Hill Autonomous Zone, Capital Hill Occupied Protest.   Same place.   Cops, and Fire personnel were not allowed.  Ambulances were allowed to come to the "border".   They did not allow any city anyone into the area or they would ambush the vehicle.   They claimed they were outside the city, state, and country.   They ran their own quasi government which of course fell apart as the bickering ate them up.   Security was done by thugs and people were killed.   Definitely the Summer of Love as the now disgraced Mayor of Seattle, Jennie Durkan, called it.  She didn't even run for re-election.   She was a lost cause.  It was under her leadership that the CHAZ was allowed to trashe the police precinct i Capital Hill and then allowed them to "incorporate " as an autonomous zone.   Another one of the left's great ideas.   They ate themselves up in the end.   It just fizzled out.  I guess no one wanted to be secretary of State!!

mspart

[El Luchador]

5 hours ago, uncle bernard said:

"public prayer event"

It was an anti-LGBTQ rally in the heart of one of the most liberal cities in the country. It's a part of a larger ultra-conservative Christian movement that refers to itself as "worship warfare." Their whole mission is to go into ultra-liberal areas and stir *I poop my pants, don't laugh at me* up so they can claim they are "under attack" afterwards.

Counter-protestors who broke the law were arrested. The group is continuing to publicly protest, as is their right protected under the constitution. They don't have a right for people not to hate them.

I live in a very liberal city. There are public prayer events here all the time. There are tons of churches, tons of Christians. They don't get counter-protested or harassed because they don't go out of their way to instigate. Don't be a psycho and people will treat you with respect.

Your leftist lying media lied that lie and you repeated it like a good useful idiot. The man that put this on was raised by 2 mom's.  Not an anti anything but pro Christian. 

[Caveira]

4 hours ago, uncle bernard said:

So you're complaining about something that hasn't even happened yet?

You haven’t answered the question.  We’re any of them charged yet ??

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

1 hour ago, Caveira said:

You haven’t answered the question.  We’re any of them charged yet ??

He is not good at answering the tough questions, but he gets very impatient if you don't watch his videos or read his propagandist articles.

[JimmySpeaks]

The terrorist supporters on here won’t budge 

[mspart]

The best way to protest these situations is to ignore the rally.   The church goers stayed in the bounds of their permit.   Just ignore them like they are not there.   Then they go away.   Antifa has a lot to learn.   However, what I think they have learned is that there will be very little justice served to them.   I doubt that they will be charged with anything of note.  

mspart

[mspart]

https://komonews.com/news/local/religious-group-protest-seattle-mayor-harrell-comments-at-city-hall-rally-mayday-usa-event-seattle-rally-counter-protest-cal-anderson-park-arrests-police#

8 arrested at counterprotest, religious group rally outside Seattle City Hall

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by KOMO News Staff

Tue, May 27th 2025 at 5:28 AM

Updated Wed, May 28th 2025 at 6:24 PM

 

SEATTLE — Eight people were arrested during what police described as “dueling demonstrations” in downtown Seattle on Tuesday.

A religious group protested outside Seattle City Hall on Tuesday following a weekend of unrest at Cal Anderson Park. The group spoke out against what they describe as religious bigotry, specifically targeting comments made by Seattle Mayor Bruce Harrell.

The protest comes after a clash at the park on Saturday, where 23 protesters were arrested. The incident began when LGBTQ protesters attempted to disrupt a rally held by the Christian pro-life group Mayday USA. The situation escalated, prompting Seattle police to call for assistance from the Washington State Patrol. Some of the protesters who were arrested -- all accused of assaulting police officers -- have since been released.

Seattle police said eight people were arrested for assault at the "First Amendment event" outside City Hall. No major injuries were reported.

"Two opposing groups gathered along 4th Avenue," wrote the SPD in a media release. "Streets around the dueling demonstrations were shut down for several hours but reopened just before 8 p.m."

Counter-protesters said they believed the messaging at the religious rally on Saturday and on the steps of City Hall on Tuesday was hateful.

"It has nothing to do with religion," Plymouth Church Senior Pastor Rev. Dr. Kelle Brown said. "It has everything to do with bigotry and discrimination and bias and hate, and they have subverted it in the name of God."

Lead Pastor Russell Johnson, who was behind Tuesday’s rally and was present at Saturday’s protest, said he expected hundreds of people from all walks of life to gather to demand an apology from the mayor.

"This is a group that loves the Lord and all people," one evangelical man told KOMO News about the large counter-protest. "We might not support what people do, but we love all people," another man told KOMO News.

Harrell referred to Mayday USA as "a right-wing organization" that "intended to provoke a reaction" by promoting its beliefs in the city's prominent LGBTQ neighborhood. Both Mayday USA and the counter-protesters have criticized the city's handling of the protest.

"We had attempted to do the event at another place, and they rejected that and directed us to Cal Anderson," said Johnson.

No word on charges yet.   Some have been released, but not sure if that is on their own recognizance or  let go and not charged. 

mspart

[Scouts Honor]

On 5/28/2025 at 12:59 PM, uncle bernard said:

No. I'm the guy who posted their full quotes admitting they want to ethnically cleanse Gaza.

they maybe are realizing that giving gaza back in the name of peace hasn't worked...

yet we need this peaceful diplomatic solution right? 

[Scouts Honor]

On 5/28/2025 at 11:58 AM, uncle bernard said:

 

Hormones are healthcare, yes. Pretty basic stuff there. 

And I want you to rewrite what I wrote so that you realize that what you said I wrote is not what I actually wrote. I know this is hard because you're barely literate, so I'll do it for you. I'll even bold the important part so you can't miss it.

Me: "I'm not going to pretend that this was some awful violation of civil rights either."

You: "guess having pee thrown on you isn't an awful thing"

Me: "awful violation of civil rights"

You: "awful thing"

Can you tell the difference between those two statements? Most fourth graders can.

so you are complaining about something that has never happened.

just like all the TDS bull 

[uncle bernard]

22 hours ago, Caveira said:

You haven’t answered the question.  We’re any of them charged yet ??

It's unclear because it's early in the process. These things take time. 

1 charge filed so far. Police are still in the process of reviewing cases.

Comment from the prosecutor's office

No charging decisions have been made," said prosecutor's spokesperson Casey McNerthney. "That means no charges have been filed. No charges have been dismissed. Prosecutors can only make decisions, one way or the other, on cases that are referred to our office – and none have been.

[uncle bernard]

40 minutes ago, Scouts Honor said:

so you are complaining about something that has never happened.

just like all the TDS bull 

Lol, good effort, but no. The things I complained about did happen. The Supreme Court did take away the universal right to an abortion. Conservative state governments are harassing families with trans children, and making it harder for all trans people to access trans-related medical care - like making it not eligible for Medicaid, for example.

[uncle bernard]

21 hours ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

He is not good at answering the tough questions, but he gets very impatient if you don't watch his videos or read his propagandist articles.

Let me know which questions I haven't answered and I'll answer.

Keep in mind, it's basically me vs. the board, so it's not easy for me to keep track of every reply. But the whole point of being on here is to debate, and I'm never afraid to do that.