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5 minutes ago, Husker_Du said:

no. it didn't.

the wokeness is now the norm. via media and the education system, everyone is a victim and an activist. 

I actually agree with RV. If the right doesnt follow up this Trump admin with another presidency, we're effed. 

Wokeness started with the creation of the dept of education in 1979 and has been the norm since Obama.  All you can do is slow it down as it’s going to happen whether you like it or not.  As I’ve said on here before if Dems would learn what “happening “organically” means instead of shoving it down peoples throats they’d have far more success.  Also, Globalism (NWO) coming whether we want it to or not. Even the Nationalist Trump knows it which is why he’s trying to position the US as best he can for the future when it does.  That being said you can’t stop it, just impact it/direct it as best you can while you can.  

Posted
9 minutes ago, Husker_Du said:

the wokeness is now the norm. via media and the education system, everyone is a victim and an activist. 

 

I just don’t see it as blatant in the education system as we get sold on.  There are definitely bad actors in schools and in some policy makers, but overall I just don’t see it that heavy.  I deal with a lot of schools in both my ‘regular’ job and in my wrestling ventures. And I feel like we get fed about the bad actors so densely and so loudly, that what we hear in certain media and certain govt entities does not reflect the reality. In my experiences, I just don’t see anywhere near the level of what we’re fed.  What I see a lot more of is entitlement from parents.   “My kid shouldn’t have to do this or that if it makes them uncomfortable.”  What I see more in schools and policy, more so than higher levels pushing an agenda, is not having the balls to stand up to parents and saying…we’re the professionals, this is how it’s done, if you don’t like it you have other options. 
 

I say all of that with the understanding that my experiences are not everyone’s experiences. 

Posted
1 hour ago, WrestlingRasta said:

I just don’t see it as blatant in the education system as we get sold on.  There are definitely bad actors in schools and in some policy makers, but overall I just don’t see it that heavy.  I deal with a lot of schools in both my ‘regular’ job and in my wrestling ventures. And I feel like we get fed about the bad actors so densely and so loudly, that what we hear in certain media and certain govt entities does not reflect the reality. In my experiences, I just don’t see anywhere near the level of what we’re fed.  What I see a lot more of is entitlement from parents.   “My kid shouldn’t have to do this or that if it makes them uncomfortable.”  What I see more in schools and policy, more so than higher levels pushing an agenda, is not having the balls to stand up to parents and saying…we’re the professionals, this is how it’s done, if you don’t like it you have other options. 
 

I say all of that with the understanding that my experiences are not everyone’s experiences. 

You don’t think there’s a correlation between wokeness and entitlement?

Posted (edited)
53 minutes ago, JimmySpeaks said:

You don’t think there’s a correlation between wokeness and entitlement?

That's not at all what I said, I absolutely believe there is a correlation.   To simplify, what I am saying is that I see it coming much more from the home than from the school.  Again, not that there aren't any bad actors in the schools, but that I have not seen it nearly as agenda driven from the schools as some media and some government entities try to feed us. With school's becoming much more 'competitive' than they used to be in decades past, schools are "allowing" this entitlement from the home much more than they used to because they have to fill their seats to stay in operation.  

Do I believe the home should have a voice in the school education, absolutely.  Do I believe the home should dictate the school education, absolutely not.  And what I am seeing is the home dictating the school education becoming more and more prevalent. (I use the term 'school education' because there is a lot more to life education and development than what happens in the classroom.  And I certainly don't believe school education is the end all be all of whether or not someone can lead a successful, productive life).

 

Edited by WrestlingRasta
Posted
3 hours ago, WrestlingRasta said:

That's not at all what I said, I absolutely believe there is a correlation.   To simplify, what I am saying is that I see it coming much more from the home than from the school.  Again, not that there aren't any bad actors in the schools, but that I have not seen it nearly as agenda driven from the schools as some media and some government entities try to feed us. With school's becoming much more 'competitive' than they used to be in decades past, schools are "allowing" this entitlement from the home much more than they used to because they have to fill their seats to stay in operation.  

Do I believe the home should have a voice in the school education, absolutely.  Do I believe the home should dictate the school education, absolutely not.  And what I am seeing is the home dictating the school education becoming more and more prevalent. (I use the term 'school education' because there is a lot more to life education and development than what happens in the classroom.  And I certainly don't believe school education is the end all be all of whether or not someone can lead a successful, productive life).

 

I understand what you’re saying but the people at home learned it from somewhere.  Most likely school.  Maybe more so at the college level but it certainly happens at all levels. 

Posted (edited)
On 4/27/2025 at 9:37 PM, Caveira said:

I thought @red viking guaranteed it would keep tanking indefinitely?   Weird. 

Strawmen were tanking.  That was firmly hypothesized, established, and proven by the Strawmen Declaration Club of this forum.

EDIT:  HA!! I wrote the above before I read the very next comment.  Which was RV declaring . . . 

                              "Indefinitely?" Strawan

Definitely Strawmen tanking indefinitely.

Edited by Lipdrag

People who tolerate me on a daily basis . . . they are the real heroes.

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