50 years of tax cuts for the rich haven't benefitted anyone else?

[Tripnsweep]

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/tax-cuts-rich-50-years-no-trickle-down/

 

[Scouts Honor]

wait, you are saying carter, slick willy and obama also gave tax cuts to the rich ? 

[Paul158]

4 hours ago, Tripnsweep said:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/tax-cuts-rich-50-years-no-trickle-down/

 

55 years of paying full taxes to this bloated, inefficient, wasteful and corrupt federal government hasn't done any of us regular citizens any good.

[red viking]

Something trickled down, but it wasn't money. 

[red viking]

4 minutes ago, Paul158 said:

55 years of paying full taxes to this bloated, inefficient, wasteful and corrupt federal government hasn't done any of us regular citizens any good.

Then you should refuse social security when you retire. 

[Tripnsweep]

15 minutes ago, Paul158 said:

55 years of paying full taxes to this bloated, inefficient, wasteful and corrupt federal government hasn't done any of us regular citizens any good.

You shouldn't call the police, fire department, use hospitals, drive your car on public roads, use public transportation, eat anything FDA approved, etc. You can apparently get by fine without all that then. 

[Bigbrog]

21 minutes ago, Tripnsweep said:

You shouldn't call the police, fire department, use hospitals, drive your car on public roads, use public transportation, eat anything FDA approved, etc. You can apparently get by fine without all that then. 

Ooooh....you sure got him good!    Such an intellectually weak post.

[wrestlingguy]

23 minutes ago, Tripnsweep said:

You shouldn't call the police, fire department, use hospitals, drive your car on public roads, use public transportation, eat anything FDA approved, etc. You can apparently get by fine without all that then. 

Federal taxes don't pay for local services but you know that.

[Paul158]

42 minutes ago, red viking said:

Then you should refuse social security when you retire. 

Social Security is my money. Myself and my employer HAaE PaID in 13 CEnTS FoR EVeRY DOLlAR i HAvE EvER MAdE. So the government isn't giving me anything. Had I been able to invest that money it would be close to a million dollars right now. 

[Paul158]

46 minutes ago, Tripnsweep said:

You shouldn't call the police, fire department, use hospitals, drive your car on public roads, use public transportation, eat anything FDA approved, etc. You can apparently get by fine without all that then. 

I have never called the Police, or the fire Department and If I did it is paid by my local taxes. I pay (road) tax on every gallon of gasoline for my roads. My health insurance pays for some of my doctor bills, I pay for the rest. I raise my own vegetables, eggs and beef (meat). I don't use public transportation I have my own vehicles. 

[Husker_Du]

 

[mspart]

Looks like a Hawaiian road crew.   Saw this in my neighborhood many times.   5 guys, 4 standing around, 1 patting asphalt into the pot hole.   That fix lasted all of 6 weeks.   Job security.

mspart

[Caveira]

33 minutes ago, mspart said:

Looks like a Hawaiian road crew.   Saw this in my neighborhood many times.   5 guys, 4 standing around, 1 patting asphalt into the pot hole.   That fix lasted all of 6 weeks.   Job security.

mspart

Omg.  I have a pic somewhere from my balcony.  13 city workers watching one guy work.   Made me livid.  City workers are some of the most institutionalized unionized …..   arg don’t get me started lol.    I’ve said before.  We may need doge more for city / local gov than we do for federal.   I’m half not joking.  Especially how their pensions are bankrupting cities.   Especially blue cities.  

[mspart]

My father in law worked for construction firms for years and years, and then for himself.   Then he got a job at the city and couldn't believe how many people did nothing.   It bugged him a lot.   But he got all the OT he wanted and was dependable and could think about solutions to problems.   But he hated the city work ethic. 

mspart

[red viking]

5 minutes ago, mspart said:

My father in law worked for construction firms for years and years, and then for himself.   Then he got a job at the city and couldn't believe how many people did nothing.   It bugged him a lot.   But he got all the OT he wanted and was dependable and could think about solutions to problems.   But he hated the city work ethic. 

mspart

Why did he take the pay cut? 

[mspart]

I never asked him why he did that.   He was a specialty equipment operator and was underpaid for most of his adult life.   My wife grew up very poor.   He worked like a dog and had very little to show for it.  She just told me the city paid better, had better benefits, better hours, no work away from home.  He was grateful for what he learned in the private sector but did not like the outfit.   They paid crap and sent him everywhere, no vacation or sick leave.   It was a bare bones operation.  It worked out for him.  

mspart

[red viking]

Just now, mspart said:

I never asked him why he did that.   He was a specialty equipment operator and was underpaid for most of his adult life.   My wife grew up very poor.   He worked like a dog and had very little to show for it.  She just told me the city paid better, had better benefits, better hours, no work away from home.  He was grateful for what he learned in the private sector but did not like the outfit.   They paid crap and sent him everywhere, no vacation or sick leave.   It was a bare bones operation.  It worked out for him.  

mspart

Nice story, but in reality govt work pays worse than pvt sector for the vast majority of jobs. Maybe it was different a few decades ago. 

[Caveira]

13 minutes ago, red viking said:

Nice story, but in reality govt work pays worse than pvt sector for the vast majority of jobs. Maybe it was different a few decades ago. 

Ha.   I think you’re wrong.  But if you are right … Maybe they shouldn’t cry they’re getting fired to go find better jobs in the private sector then ?   Or are some of them not qualified?

Edited Wednesday at 01:43 AM by Caveira

[mspart]

13 minutes ago, red viking said:

Nice story, but in reality govt work pays worse than pvt sector for the vast majority of jobs. Maybe it was different a few decades ago. 

Depends on the contractor I guess.  Generally I would agree with you, but his daughter just gave me the scoop.   I trust her knowledge.   He started just before we got married.   So for me, he always worked at the city. 

mspart

Edited Wednesday at 01:44 AM by mspart

[red viking]

28 minutes ago, Caveira said:

Ha.   I think you’re wrong.  But if you are right … Maybe they shouldn’t cry they’re getting fired to go find better jobs in the private sector then ?   Or are some of them not qualified?

People have different priorities and values. Most public sector workers don't have salary as their #1 priority. If they do., they dont stay long. 

[Husker_Du]

with the way labor laws are currently, is there still a need for unions?

they seem like nothing more than bloat and insulation for the least productive. 

[Offthemat]

Public service unions are subversive.  

[Caveira]

The teachers unions are the worst.  

[Offthemat]

3 minutes ago, Caveira said:

The teachers unions are the worst.  

Agreed

[Scouts Honor]

On 2/25/2025 at 2:11 PM, Tripnsweep said:

You shouldn't call the police, fire department, use hospitals, drive your car on public roads, use public transportation, eat anything FDA approved, etc. You can apparently get by fine without all that then. 

the only thing on there that is fed is the fda... which... 

some would say

has poisoned us