Highest Regular Season Bonus Rate

[Wrestleknownothing]

Among WrestleStat top 33, everyone with at least 75% bonus rate.

[Truzzcat]

immediately the shocking ones to me are McNelly and Little. Every match I have watched of them I think has gone to OT aside from McNelly and Allred. Cannon is a pretty incredible story with what he went through in high school. Alirez's bonus rate is actually down from his national title season and his SOS is not even close, not sure if that's any indicator of his wrestling level right now just something I noticed.

[Wrestleknownothing]

Team Leaders.

That title is not exactly accurate as I am only including the average of every team's top 33 wrestlestat ranked wrestler.

So for context I include the number of ranked wrestlers.

That is a pretty big gap between 1 and 2.

[CHROMEBIRD]

Wow, the Buckeyes and Huskers really got in some reps this season. Is there a way to constrain the dataset to duals only? I'm wondering if that gives a better sense of team performance.

Speaking of, hell of a great dual last night in IC. Bonus points were flying. Parco and Hamiti came very close to majoring their opponents - that would've been 9 matches with bonus. We need a dual excitement index, which is the % of matches in a dual with bonus OR the most bonus points in a dual, AND the winning team not having more than 50% of the bonus matches or points

[Wrestleknownothing]

12 minutes ago, CHROMEBIRD said:

Wow, the Buckeyes and Huskers really got in some reps this season. Is there a way to constrain the dataset to duals only? I'm wondering if that gives a better sense of team performance.

Speaking of, hell of a great dual last night in IC. Bonus points were flying. Parco and Hamiti came very close to majoring their opponents - that would've been 9 matches with bonus. We need a dual excitement index, which is the % of matches in a dual with bonus OR the most bonus points in a dual, AND the winning team not having more than 50% of the bonus matches or points

Sadly, not without a huge amount of manual labor.

On an unrelated note, I have an unpaid internship opening available.

[Jimmy Cinnabon]

Surprised to see Stallroci so high up. I thought he just stalled to win?

[Mr. PeanutButter]

1 minute ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said:

Surprised to see Stallroci so high up. I thought he just stalled to win?

He absolutely does. The opponents just stall more 

[okokzach]

Wonder what it would look like if you throw out matches against opponents outside the Wrestlestat top 50. 

[Caveira]

16 minutes ago, Mr. PeanutButter said:

He absolutely does. The opponents just stall more 

His highest major this year is against #9 ranked opponent …. It’s approx 9 , 11 , 14 I think his major or tf against ranked opponents. 

Edited February 24 by Caveira

[Wrestleknownothing]

50 minutes ago, okokzach said:

Wonder what it would look like if you throw out matches against opponents outside the Wrestlestat top 50. 

89.9% still higher than all but four wrestlers against any competition.

For the guys want to stick to this "oh, he can't do it against the top guys" narrative, that has not been the case this year. His only non-bonus was against a guy who spent a disproportionate amount of time out of bounds. 

It turns out that it takes two to tango.

Edit: If you limit it to just top 50 wrestlers, Starocci is 8 for 9, or 89.9% (as mentioned above). That drops him down to......well, it does not drop him down. He is still third on the list.

But what if we limit it to top 33 guys, likely tournament qualifiers, well at 83.3% (5 of 6) he drops to....again, he does not drop. Still third.

Edited February 24 by Wrestleknownothing

[scourge165]

1 hour ago, Caveira said:

His highest major this year is against #9 ranked opponent …. It’s approx 9 , 11 , 14 I think his major or tf against ranked opponents. 

He's undefeated.

He's won 4 National Titles. The only NON-Major of the year was a guy who just beat the #3 ranked Wrestler, last years runner up and that Wrestler backed up the entire match. 
 

Your Starocci obsession is amusing at this point. Iowa has the best stallers vs him. That's...about the extent of the bragging rights you've got right now. 

[Caveira]

2 minutes ago, scourge165 said:

He's undefeated.

He's won 4 National Titles. The only NON-Major of the year was a guy who just beat the #3 ranked Wrestler, last years runner up and that Wrestler backed up the entire match. 
 

Your Starocci obsession is amusing at this point. Iowa has the best stallers vs him. That's...about the extent of the bragging rights you've got right now. 

There are like 86 cstall comments before I made one.  Let’s call it even Steven from all the Spencer Lee haters….. from years past.  

[Mr. PeanutButter]

1 hour ago, Caveira said:

His highest major this year is against #9 ranked opponent …. It’s approx 9 , 11 , 14 I think his major or tf against ranked opponents. 

My post was a joke 

[Caveira]

Just now, Mr. PeanutButter said:

My post was a joke 

Strength of schedule matters boss.  

[Wrestleknownothing]

32 minutes ago, Caveira said:

Strength of schedule matters boss.  

Starocci does alright there too.

https://www.wrestlestat.com/d1/rankings/rpi

 

[Spencerlee]

20 hours ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

89.9% still higher than all but four wrestlers against any competition.

For the guys want to stick to this "oh, he can't do it against the top guys" narrative, that has not been the case this year. His only non-bonus was against a guy who spent a disproportionate amount of time out of bounds. 

It turns out that it takes two to tango.

Edit: If you limit it to just top 50 wrestlers, Starocci is 8 for 9, or 89.9% (as mentioned above). That drops him down to......well, it does not drop him down. He is still third on the list.

But what if we limit it to top 33 guys, likely tournament qualifiers, well at 83.3% (5 of 6) he drops to....again, he does not drop. Still third.

Even if he was backing up the whole match(he wasn’t). Wouldn’t you expect a sixth year senior to get a single takedown against a true freshman?

[Jimmy Cinnabon]

30 minutes ago, Spencerlee said:

Even if he was backing up the whole match(he wasn’t). Wouldn’t you expect a sixth year senior to get a single takedown against a true freshman?

Wouldn't you expect the GOAT not to get pinned in the semifinals by a guy who never even won a NCAA title?

[Wrestleknownothing]

19 minutes ago, Spencerlee said:

Even if he was backing up the whole match(he wasn’t). Wouldn’t you expect a sixth year senior to get a single takedown against a true freshman?

Starocci does not mind physically dominating his opponent, shutting down their offense, and winning by small margins. For most wrestlers those kind of tactics are dangerous leaving little room for error. But Starocci is on an 86 contested match win streak using those tactics. How many of those matches has he trailed in? I doubt it is as high as five. Everyone thinks they are close, but they really are not.

Now, what I said was "disproportionate time out of bounds", not "backing up the whole match". Ferrari absolutely spent a disproportionate time out of bounds. He did this even after being told to return to the middle. This is undeniable. And this is what granted Starocci the lead that he never relinquished, or even looked to be at risk of relinquishing.

[Spencerlee]

10 minutes ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said:

Wouldn't you expect the GOAT not to get pinned in the semifinals by a guy who never even won a NCAA title?

3 torn ACLs will do that to anybody. Good thing is he's as close to 100% as he's been since high school at the moment.

[Jimmy Cinnabon]

9 minutes ago, Spencerlee said:

3 torn ACLs will do that to anybody. Good thing is he's as close to 100% as he's been since high school at the moment.

[Pinnacle]

17 hours ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

Starocci does not mind physically dominating his opponent, shutting down their offense, and winning by small margins. For most wrestlers those kind of tactics are dangerous leaving little room for error. But Starocci is on an 86 contested match win streak using those tactics. How many of those matches has he trailed in? I doubt it is as high as five. Everyone thinks they are close, but they really are not.

Now, what I said was "disproportionate time out of bounds", not "backing up the whole match". Ferrari absolutely spent a disproportionate time out of bounds. He did this even after being told to return to the middle. This is undeniable. And this is what granted Starocci the lead that he never relinquished, or even looked to be at risk of relinquishing.

The match I recall Starocci trailing in the 3rd period is the Mehki match in the NCAA Final. If there is another in that 86 match streak it doesn't come readily to mind. 

[Pinnacle]

On 2/24/2025 at 5:02 PM, Mr. PeanutButter said:

He absolutely does. The opponents just stall more 

So just to keep things straight, when Carter Starocci stalls he still manages to win 100% of the time and 94% of the time by bonus. When his opponents stall they lose 100% of the time and 94% of the time by bonus. 

 

[Mr. PeanutButter]

2 hours ago, Pinnacle said:

So just to keep things straight, when Carter Starocci stalls he still manages to win 100% of the time and 94% of the time by bonus. When his opponents stall they lose 100% of the time and 94% of the time by bonus. 

 

Christ. I'm going to work to make sure it is obvious when I'm joke posting 

[AZ_wrestling]

When’s the last time someone had a 100% bonus at the end of a regular season? I can’t remember anyone doing that in the last decade. The fact that not one but two wrestlers this year hit that mark tells me it’s a consequence of the 3 point take down (and maybe limited schedules too). Still incredibly impressive.
 

What’s the highest bonus % after NCAAs in the wrestlestat era? Low 90s?

[SocraTease]

33 minutes ago, AZ_wrestling said:

When’s the last time someone had a 100% bonus at the end of a regular season? I can’t remember anyone doing that in the last decade. The fact that not one but two wrestlers this year hit that mark tells me it’s a consequence of the 3 point take down (and maybe limited schedules too). Still incredibly impressive.
 

What’s the highest bonus % after NCAAs in the wrestlestat era? Low 90s?

My sense is that both Mesenbrink and Steveson would both have bonus-ed their way through the season even if the TD was only 2 points.  Here is Mesenbrink's record this year.  Only one match was remotely close (10-1), and I think M let off the gas because he knew he couldn't get to the TF with the time remaining:

 

2025	11/17/2024	165	Cody Walsh (Drexel)	WTF 21-4 (5:19)	1-0
2025	11/24/2024	165	Carter Baer (Binghamton)	WTF 18-3 (5:37)	2-0
2025	11/24/2024	165	Cam Adams (Michigan State)	WTF 18-1 (4:01)	3-0
2025	11/24/2024	165	#32 Tony White (Rutgers )	WTF 19-4 (5:46)	4-0
2025	11/24/2024	165	Gunner Filiopowicz (Army West Point)	WTF 17-2 (4:50)	5-0
2025	12/8/2024	165	Thayne Lawrence (Lehigh)	WTF 18-1 (4:37)	6-0
2025	12/15/2024	165	Cooper Voorhees (Wyoming )	WTF 15-0 (3:17)	7-0
2025	12/22/2024	165	#21 Joey Bianchi (Arkansas-Little Rock )	WTF 17-1 (5:27)	8-0
2025	12/22/2024	165	()	WFT	9-0
2025	12/22/2024	165	()	WFT	10-0
2025	1/10/2025	165	Jay Nivison (Michigan State)	WTF 20-5 (3:57)	11-0
2025	1/17/2025	165	#7 Bubba Wilson (Nebraska)	WTF 20-3 (5:39)	12-0
2025	1/24/2025	165	#26 Anthony White (Rutgers)	WTF 19-3 (6:30)	13-0
2025	1/31/2025	165	#2 Mikey Caliendo (Iowa )	WTF 19-4 (6:24)	14-0
2025	2/7/2025	165	#10 Beau Mantanona (Michigan )	WMD 18-4	15-0
2025	2/9/2025	165	Alex Uryniak (Maryland)	WTF 18-3 (4:59)	16-0
2025	2/14/2025	165	Brock Herman (Ohio State)	WTF 19-4 (4:39)	17-0
2025	2/16/2025	165	#14 Braeden Scoles (Illinois)	WMD 10-1	18-0
2025	2/21/2025	165	Kaden Milheim (American)	WTF 19-2 (5:20)	19-0

Edited February 27 by SocraTease