Scoring Question/Hypothetical NCAA Tournament

[Hammerlock3]

Any who could figure this out, maybe @Wrestleknownothing, I'd be interested.

Team A has a champ who wins straight decisions from the round of 32 onward.

Team B has ten AAs, all lost in the Round of 32 and won decisions until the consi quarters, and then lost out to 8th. 

How does the scoring shake out?

[Hammerlock3]

After some work myself, it says the champ scores 21, and an 8th place wrestler would score 8, but it also says advancement in the good side is 1 point and that advancement in the consis is 1....I thought advancment in the consi's was .5?

[gimpeltf]

6 minutes ago, Hammerlock3 said:

After some work myself, it says the champ scores 21, and an 8th place wrestler would score 8, but it also says advancement in the good side is 1 point and that advancement in the consis is 1....I thought advancment in the consi's was .5?

It is.

 

[Wrestleknownothing]

12 minutes ago, Hammerlock3 said:

After some work myself, it says the champ scores 21, and an 8th place wrestler would score 8, but it also says advancement in the good side is 1 point and that advancement in the consis is 1....I thought advancment in the consi's was .5?

A champ with no bonus scores 20, 16 placement points and 4 advancement points. 

Eighth place is worth 3 placement points.

On the back side advancement points are 0.5 per match. To get to the eighth place match after losing the first requires 4 straight wins.

There are no advancement points in the final matches (1st, 3rd, 5, 7th).

So Team A has 20

Team B scores (3+ (4*0.5))*10 = 50

Edited Tuesday at 05:56 PM by Wrestleknownothing

[Hammerlock3]

2 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

A champ with no bonus scores 20, 16 placement points and 4 advancement points. 

Eighth place is worth 3 placement points.

On the back side advancement points are 0.5 per match. To get to the eighth place match after losing the first requires 4 straight wins.

There are no advancement points in the final matches (1st, 3rd, 5, 7th).

So Team A has 20

Team B scores (3+ (4*0.5))*10 = 50

Thanks. I knew Grok was wrong....elon is getting a strongly worded note.

[11986]

mathing is hard - same scenario but the 10 lose in blood rd = 15 team points?

[Wrestleknownothing]

29 minutes ago, 11986 said:

mathing is hard - same scenario but the 10 lose in blood rd = 15 team points?

yep. see it aint that hard.

[nhs67]

What if all pinfalls?

[ionel]

13 minutes ago, nhs67 said:

What if all pinfalls?

20 + 4x4 = 36

[Wrestleknownothing]

1 hour ago, nhs67 said:

What if all pinfalls?

 

46 minutes ago, ionel said:

20 + 4x4 = 36

I spoke too soon. Apparently mathing is hard.

(20+(5*2))*10=300

[Idaho]

Clarification for. you guys Didn't want to start a new thread....second coaches ranking is tomorrow. In order to be in the ranking in the first one in January, you had to have 8 D1 matches at the weight and wrestle in the last 30 days. Does that 8 number increase this week or at the end of the season? I was thinking the end of season final rankings before at-large selection was 15 matches. I think you need 15 for the coaches ranking and the RPI for the total "tally" for the at-large bids at the NCAA - is that correct? Not to say you can't get in, but those are two of the criteria. Do I have that correct? The reason I ask is that , there are some guys who may need tourneys here at the end. Is Dresser busy?  

[Wrestleknownothing]

32 minutes ago, Idaho said:

Clarification for. you guys Didn't want to start a new thread....second coaches ranking is tomorrow. In order to be in the ranking in the first one in January, you had to have 8 D1 matches at the weight and wrestle in the last 30 days. Does that 8 number increase this week or at the end of the season? I was thinking the end of season final rankings before at-large selection was 15 matches. I think you need 15 for the coaches ranking and the RPI for the total "tally" for the at-large bids at the NCAA - is that correct? Not to say you can't get in, but those are two of the criteria. Do I have that correct? The reason I ask is that , there are some guys who may need tourneys here at the end. Is Dresser busy?  

https://ncaaorg.s3.amazonaws.com/championships/sports/wrestling/d1/men/2024-25D1MWR_QualifierAllocationCriteria.pdf

There is nothing in there about changing the criteria from the first to the second set of coaches' rankings.

The 15 match requirement is for RPI.

[Idaho]

2 hours ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

https://ncaaorg.s3.amazonaws.com/championships/sports/wrestling/d1/men/2024-25D1MWR_QualifierAllocationCriteria.pdf

There is nothing in there about changing the criteria from the first to the second set of coaches' rankings.

The 15 match requirement is for RPI.

Thanks- I knew someone would have that criteria.