How in the world did the government spending get so far off the tracks? In less than a month Elon will and his 20 year olds will pry 1 trillion dollars out of the politicians cold dead hands. will

[Offthemat]

The folks who told us everything was fine under Biden are now saying that everything Trump is doing is catastrophic.  As his polling grows more positive.  Where do these people come from?

[jross]

If a contract has already paid out 100k, and is cancelled, preventing the possibility of a max payout of 10M over three years, is that savings?

How often were these max payouts fulfilled historically?

Is cancelling contacts and or deciding not to extend… performed at a different rate now than before?

[Le duke]

The folks who told us everything was fine under Biden are now saying that everything Trump is doing is catastrophic.  As his polling grows more positive.  Where do these people come from?

Huh?

Trump’s approval rate is dropping by the day.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trumps-approval-rating-slips-americans-worry-about-economy-2025-02-19/


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[Caveira]

10 minutes ago, Le duke said:

Huh?

Trump’s approval rate is dropping by the day.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trumps-approval-rating-slips-americans-worry-about-economy-2025-02-19/


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Here is a good Reuters poll 

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/harris-holds-46-43-lead-over-trump-amid-voter-gloom-reutersipsos-poll-finds-2024-10-22/

Harris holds 46%-43% lead over Trump amid voter gloom, Reuters/Ipsos poll find

[Caveira]

Did Reuters poll in Iowa get it right ?  Who won Iowa I don’t remember   

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/harris-tops-trump-latest-iowa-poll-marking-turnaround-des-moines-register-survey-2024-11-03/
 

Harris tops Trump in Iowa in latest Des Moines Register poll

 

There are a lot more like this too.  

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[jross]

I dared to discuss savings in public recently with two acquaintances. Two of us were thrilled, almost giddy.

The third brought up that a family member is four years away from a pension, and chose not to take the payout.  He said that people on a probational period were let go. Then he explained that when you get a promotion to management or a different job family, you’re put on a probation  period and so some good people can be been impacted.

We talked about how that sucks for his family member, but we gotta do this for the future, even if pensions are impacted.  

We agreed we would rather see any savings put to pay down the debt.  Not easy, but necessary.

[Caveira]

Stuff like this matters 

and adds up

[Le duke]

I dared to discuss savings in public recently with two acquaintances. Two of us were thrilled, almost giddy.
The third brought up that a family member is four years away from a pension, and chose not to take the payout.  He said that people on a probational period were let go. Then he explained that when you get a promotion to management or a different job family, you’re put on a probation  period and so some good people can be been impacted.
We talked about how that sucks for his family member, but we gotta do this for the future, even if pensions are impacted.  
We agreed we would rather see any savings put to pay down the debt.  Not easy, but necessary.

The problem here is that they just canned people without regard for whether their position was actually needed or not. And without looking at actual job performance.

See: nuclear arsenal workers.

See: NPS Ranger who was the only EMT at his park.

Most well run corporations try to identify low performers. That didn’t happen here.


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[Caveira]

10 minutes ago, Le duke said:

 

The problem here is that they just canned people without regard for whether their position was actually needed or not. And without looking at actual job performance.

See: nuclear arsenal workers.

See: NPS Ranger who was the only EMT at his park.

Most well run corporations try to identify low performers. That didn’t happen here.


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Comments from huge anti musk/trumpers hold little value.  No matter what they do you will be unhappy.  To fast!!!! To slow!!!! Not enough!!! It’s like making whoopie to a bipolar woman.  
 

with that said analysis paralysis is a thing in corporate America.  They often move horribly slow.  The government is worse.  Sometimes you have to over cut and re hire your mistakes with the goal of progress.   
 

keep going musk …. doing something is far better than the status quo of putting your head in the sand and raising taxes 

[1032004]

24 minutes ago, jross said:

I dared to discuss savings in public recently with two acquaintances. Two of us were thrilled, almost giddy.

The third brought up that a family member is four years away from a pension, and chose not to take the payout.  He said that people on a probational period were let go. Then he explained that when you get a promotion to management or a different job family, you’re put on a probation  period and so some good people can be been impacted.

We talked about how that sucks for his family member, but we gotta do this for the future, even if pensions are impacted.  

We agreed we would rather see any savings put to pay down the debt.  Not easy, but necessary.

Wait what?  I saw people saying that people that recently got promoted were also on probationary status and honestly I didn’t believe it.  If that’s true, those are exactly the people that should NOT be getting fired, that’s not “we gotta do this for the future” c’mon

[1032004]

25 minutes ago, Caveira said:

Stuff like this matters 

and adds up

Uh, not if it’s sold.  “Deferred maintenance” means they didn’t actually pay to do the maintenance, and since they (the Biden admin actually) sold it now that deferred maintenance is the new owner’s problem.

Edited Sunday at 06:34 PM by 1032004

[headshuck]

I can’t wait to see the media frenzy after the Fort Knox visit

[Caveira]

19 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

Uh, not if it’s sold.  “Deferred maintenance” means they didn’t actually pay to do the maintenance, and since they (the Biden admin actually) sold it now that deferred maintenance is the new owner’s problem.

Did they pay property taxes for 22 years?     It’s like nothing can make you happy lol 

Edited Sunday at 06:53 PM by Caveira

[1032004]

35 minutes ago, Caveira said:

Did they pay property taxes for 22 years? 

I’d assume so.  But surely far less than the profit they made on the sale.

Hopefully DOGE isn’t taking credit for something in relation to this.

Edited Sunday at 07:20 PM by 1032004

[Caveira]

49 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

I’d assume so.  But surely far less than the profit they made on the sale.

Hopefully DOGE isn’t taking credit for something in relation to this.

Who cares.  It’s another bad thing gone. 

[Scouts Honor]

does it matter

 

[Caveira]

8 minutes ago, Scouts Honor said:

does it matter

 

I think it’s been vacant since the 80s too.  Who buys a vacant building and doesn’t use it….. for 22 years.     Damn the government is awful.  

[1032004]

2 hours ago, jross said:

If a contract has already paid out 100k, and is cancelled, preventing the possibility of a max payout of 10M over three years, is that savings?

How often were these max payouts fulfilled historically?

Is cancelling contacts and or deciding not to extend… performed at a different rate now than before?

Answer to your first question is yes.  But it seems more of the errors found were basically the opposite of your example.   Like this one that claimed $1b in “savings” but 80% of it had already been spent.

 

Don’t know the answer to your last 2 questions

[1032004]

20 minutes ago, Caveira said:

Who cares.  It’s another bad thing gone. 

Gone thanks to the Biden administration.

You cared enough to bring it up…

[Scouts Honor]

the closest thing to eternity is the govt

anytime something is canceled... it is good.

perpetuity is a long time.

even if 80% were paid this year... none will be paid in future years 

[red viking]

Meanwhile, social security and medicaud payments and military spending (particularly on fat cat contractors like space x) growing by leaps and bounds and DOGE won't do anything about that. Nothing to see there, move along. We're cutting the super tiny stuff. Hoorrayy! Let's cut NPR next!

[pokemonster]

3 hours ago, 1032004 said:

Wait what?  I saw people saying that people that recently got promoted were also on probationary status and honestly I didn’t believe it.  If that’s true, those are exactly the people that should NOT be getting fired, that’s not “we gotta do this for the future” c’mon

Yes this is unfortunately the case. A promotion puts you in a temporary probationary period. Check out all the furious fed workers on r/fednews. 

[jross]

1 hour ago, 1032004 said:

Answer to your first question is yes.  But it seems more of the errors found were basically the opposite of your example.   Like this one that claimed $1b in “savings” but 80% of it had already been spent.

 

Don’t know the answer to your last 2 questions

Did the momentum chaser not answer the last two?

[1032004]

50 minutes ago, jross said:

Did the momentum chaser not answer the last two?

Not sure why that would be relevant to claiming the entire length of the contract  was “saved” when it was only a small portion 

[jross]

How many contracts have you read with your own eyes?  That is relevant.