First Coaches Ranking

[Idaho]

First coaches ranking is out... must have 8 D1 matches at the weight and 1 in the last 30 days... so some guys are not included because of that reason. The one that matters is the last one. 

 

 

[RandolphTJones]

Teemer, Figs, Alirez, Kharchla, Shapiro guys who immediately come to mind who are  currently omitted from rankings due to lack of matches wrestled. 

[Wrestleknownothing]

Ramos (125), Mendez (141), Henson (149), Kasak (157), Mesenbrink (165), O'Toole (174), and Kerkvliet (285) all unanimous.

Ayala (133) likely had 6 first place and 8 second place votes. That is the lowest consensus.

Starocci (184) and Buchanan (197) likely had 12 first place and 2 second place votes.

[666]

16 minutes ago, Idaho said:

First coaches ranking is out... must have 8 D1 matches at the weight and 1 in the last 30 days... so some guys are not included because of that reason. The one that matters is the last one. 

 

 

8 match minimum. That explains Steveson not being ranked. 

[666]

Here's how I see it

125 Ramos - I don't think Figs will round into top form by NCAAs

133 Ayala

141 Mendez

149 Henson

157 Kasak  Shapiro will be wearing a leather football helmet if he makes it to the finals. 

165 Mesenbrink

174 Haines Hard to pick against KOT, but I figure Cael will have figured out a way for Haines to beat him the next time. 

184 Starocci   My heart says Keck, my brain says Starocci. 

197 Buchanon, but only because Ferrari is in a weak room and won't be peaked by NCAAs. 

HWT Steveson, although I think Kerk will make it interesting. 

 

 

Edited yesterday at 04:59 PM by 666

[Idaho]

Ferrari will have Munoz #10, Little #5, Hopkins #31 to round out the season then Munoz and/or Little at Pac 12. We will see where he  stands after these matches, but he certainly will not be battle tested like the others heading to the NCAA. 

Figs hasn't wrestled real great coming off injury, but he did the same last year. He lost to Spratley, Provo and Renteria in February...then went on a 10 match win streak to win it. I wouldn't pick him to win it right now, but I also wouldn't be surprised at the same time. 

[bracketbuster]

Using the coaches rank, wrestlestat RPI (I assumed everybody who is listed with at least five matches on their will get to the minimum 15 which I know is probably a stretch, and winning percentage). I have the following allocations. Obviously these will shift when some of the guys mentioned get into the coaches ranking.

	125	133	141	149	157	165	174	184	197	285	Total
ACC	5	3	4	5	3	5	5	3	3	4	40
Big 10	9	10	7	9	7	8	6	9	10	10	85
Big 12	6	6	8	7	7	8	6	8	5	4	65
EIWA	2	2	3	1	3	1	5	1	4	2	24
Ivy	4	2	3	2	2	2	2	3	2	1	23
MAC	1	2	1	2	4	2	3	3	1	4	23
PAC 12	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	2	3	13
SoCon	1	2	2	1	1	2	1	1	1	1	13
	29	28	29	28	28	29	29	29	28	29

 

[Wrestleknownothing]

Missing from the poll due to the 8 bout minimum:

Carson Kharchla #6 at 174
Andrew Alirez #2 at 141
Dylan Cedeno #20 at 141
Ryan Crookham #1 at 133
Gable Steveson #1 at 285

[Wrestleknownothing]

Reece Witcraft and Kaleb Henson in the poll even though they do not technically qualify.

Their last match was 12/19. The portal for naming starters closed 1/19. That's 31 days since they last wrestled. There is a requirement to have wrestled at least once in the last 30 days.

Edited 7 hours ago by Wrestleknownothing

[Greenwave]

So are supposed to believe the coaches watch all the kids to rank them?

[Wrestleknownothing]

6 minutes ago, Greenwave said:

So are supposed to believe the coaches watch all the kids to rank them?

Who is that a question for and is it in reference to anything in particular?

[BigRedFan]

2 hours ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

Missing from the poll due to the 8 bout minimum:

Carson Kharchla #6 at 174
Andrew Alirez #2 at 141
Dylan Cedeno #20 at 141
Ryan Crookham #1 at 133
Gable Steveson #1 at 285

Shapiro (Intermat #2) at 157 and Foca (#7) at 184 also under 8 bout minimum and missing from the poll.

[Gene Mills Fan]

12 minutes ago, BigRedFan said:

Shapiro (Intermat #2) at 157 and Foca (#7) at 184 also under 8 bout minimum and missing from the poll.

Teemer?

[MPhillips]

3 hours ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

Who is that a question for and is it in reference to anything in particular?

Nope. Just beating a dead horse for attention moment...

[Idaho]

On 1/23/2025 at 12:31 PM, bracketbuster said:

Using the coaches rank, wrestlestat RPI (I assumed everybody who is listed with at least five matches on their will get to the minimum 15 which I know is probably a stretch, and winning percentage). I have the following allocations. Obviously these will shift when some of the guys mentioned get into the coaches ranking.

	125	133	141	149	157	165	174	184	197	285	Total
ACC	5	3	4	5	3	5	5	3	3	4	40
Big 10	9	10	7	9	7	8	6	9	10	10	85
Big 12	6	6	8	7	7	8	6	8	5	4	65
EIWA	2	2	3	1	3	1	5	1	4	2	24
Ivy	4	2	3	2	2	2	2	3	2	1	23
MAC	1	2	1	2	4	2	3	3	1	4	23
PAC 12	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	2	3	13
SoCon	1	2	2	1	1	2	1	1	1	1	13
	29	28	29	28	28	29	29	29	28	29

 

The Pac-12 only gets the champion as an automatic qualifier this year due to being only 4 teams. All the rest go into the at-large selections.... so they only get 10.  At the end of the day they will have 3 at 197 in the NCAAs. Lots of wrestling left for Pac12 wrestlers to earn an at large.