Top 4 seeds

[MizzouFan01]

If the season ended today, who would be the top 4 seeds at each weight? Conversation starter, obviously a lot of wrestling and factors still available. 

[MPhillips]

And which matches would not be broadcast?

[nhs67]

Regular season ends, yes?  So now we have conferences?

[nhs67]

These are using Intermat's rankings for conference 'finish' for arguments sake...

125

1 - Lee, Iowa, B1G 1st

2 - Glory, Princeton, EIWA 1st

3 - Cardinale, West Virginia, B12 1st

4 - DeAugustino, Northwestern, B1G 2nd

133

1 - Bravo-Young, Penn State, B1G 1st

2 - Fix, Oklahoma State, B12 1st

3 - Arujau, Cornell, EIWA 1st

4 - McGee, Arizona State, P12 1st

141

1 - Matthews, Pittsburgh, ACC 1st

2 - Woods, Iowa, B1G 1st

3 - Alirez, Northern Colorado, B12 1st

4 - Bartlett, Penn State, B1G 2nd

149

1 - Diakomihalis, Cornell, EIWA 1st

2 - Gomez, Wisconsin, B1G 1dt

3 - Johnson, Iowa State, B12 1st

4 - Sasso, the Ohio State, B1G 2nd

157

1 - Robb, Nebraska, B1G 1st

2 - Humphreys, Lehigh, EIWA 1st

3 - O'Connor, North Carolina, ACC 1st

4 - Franek, North Dakota State, B12 1st

165

1 - O'Toole, Missouri, B12 1st

2 - Griffith, Stanford, P12 1st

3 - Monday, Princeton, EIWA 1st

4 - Carr, Iowa State, B12 2nd

174

1 - Starocci, Penn State, B1G 1st

2 - Plott, Oklahoma State, B12 1st

3 - Labriola, Nebraska, B1G 2nd

4 - Lewis, Virginia Tech, ACC 1st

184

1 - Brooks, Penn State, B1G 1st

2 - Keckeisen, Northern Iowa, B12 1st

3 - Hidlay, NC State, ACC 1st

4 - Coleman, Iowa State, B12 2nd

197

1 - Elam, Missouri, B12 1st

2 - Bonaccorsi, Pittsburgh, ACC 1st

3 - Dean, Penn State, B1G 1st

4 - Truax, Cal Poly, P12 1st

285

1 - Kerkvliet, Penn State, B1G 1st

2 - Parris, Michigan, B1G 2nd

3 - Hendrickson, Air Force, B12 1st

4 - Cassioppi, Iowa, B1G 3rd

Edited January 8, 2023 by nhs67

[nhs67]

Actually I bet Wkn could figire this out fairly simply.

After Tuesdays rankings, use higher ranking to determine conference placements, wrestlestat for RPI, and then add in the rest of the formula (winning percentage, conference champion, H2H, etc).

[ionel]

  On 1/8/2023 at 1:46 AM, nhs67 said:

These are using Intermat's rankings for conference 'finish' for arguments sake...

141

1 - Matthews, Pittsburgh, ACC 1st

2 - Woods, Iowa, B1G 1st

3 - Alirez, Northern Colorado, B12 1st

4 - Bartlett, Penn State, B1G 2nd

 

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Woods is evidently injured not wrestling now so don't think he can be a 2 seed.

[flyingcement]

  On 1/8/2023 at 3:08 AM, ionel said:

Woods is evidently injured not wrestling now so don't think he can be a 2 seed.

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I also count no shows as a loss by pin so he isn't in the convo

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

  On 1/8/2023 at 3:11 AM, flyingcement said:

I also count no shows as a loss by pin so he isn't in the convo

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Brooks got pinned? Yianni pinned multiple times.

Crazy year!

[ionel]

  On 1/8/2023 at 1:46 AM, nhs67 said:

These are using Intermat's rankings for conference 'finish' for arguments sake...

125

1 - Lee, Iowa, B1G 1st

2 - Glory, Princeton, EIWA 1st

3 - Cardinale, West Virginia, B12 1st

4 - DeAugustino, Northwestern, B1G 2nd

133

1 - Bravo-Young, Penn State, B1G 1st

2 - Fix, Oklahoma State, B12 1st

3 - Arujau, Cornell, EIWA 1st

4 - McGee, Arizona State, P12 1st

141

1 - Matthews, Pittsburgh, ACC 1st

2 - Woods, Iowa, B1G 1st

3 - Alirez, Northern Colorado, B12 1st

4 - Bartlett, Penn State, B1G 2nd

149

1 - Diakomihalis, Cornell, EIWA 1st

2 - Gomez, Wisconsin, B1G 1dt

3 - Johnson, Iowa State, B12 1st

4 - Sasso, the Ohio State, B1G 2nd

157

1 - Robb, Nebraska, B1G 1st

2 - Humphreys, Lehigh, EIWA 1st

3 - O'Connor, North Carolina, ACC 1st

4 - Franek, North Dakota State, B12 1st

165

1 - O'Toole, Missouri, B12 1st

2 - Griffith, Stanford, P12 1st

3 - Monday, Princeton, EIWA 1st

4 - Carr, Iowa State, B12 2nd

174

1 - Starocci, Penn State, B1G 1st

2 - Plott, Oklahoma State, B12 1st

3 - Labriola, Nebraska, B1G 2nd

4 - Lewis, Virginia Tech, ACC 1st

184

1 - Brooks, Penn State, B1G 1st

2 - Keckeisen, Northern Iowa, B12 1st

3 - Hidlay, NC State, ACC 1st

4 - Coleman, Iowa State, B12 2nd

197

1 - Elam, Missouri, B12 1st

2 - Bonaccorsi, Pittsburgh, ACC 1st

3 - Dean, Penn State, B1G 1st

4 - Truax, Cal Poly, P12 1st

285

1 - Kerkvliet, Penn State, B1G 1st

2 - Parris, Michigan, B1G 2nd

3 - Hendrickson, Air Force, B12 1st

4 - Cassioppi, Iowa, B1G 3rd

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Also, how would these seeds change if the bow & arrow were emediately deemed illegal as of today?  I trust Wkn to give us the updated seeds.  

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

  On 1/8/2023 at 3:23 AM, ionel said:

Also, how would these seeds change if the bow & arrow were emediately deemed illegal as of today?  I trust Wkn to give us the updated seeds.  

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Also Dean's dreaded "reverse cutback."

Some are calling him 'dirty' for his 'attempt to injure Amos' knee'

In regular speed, it looked like a mistake and a coincidence.  Does not look great in slow motion!

Edited January 8, 2023 by Interviewed_at_Weehawken

[ionel]

  On 1/8/2023 at 3:11 AM, flyingcement said:

I also count no shows as a loss by pin so he isn't in the convo

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  On 1/8/2023 at 3:26 AM, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

Also Dean's dreaded "reverse cutback."

Some are calling him 'dirty' for his 'attempt to injure Amos' knee'

In regular speed, it looked like a mistake and a coincidence.  Does not look great in slow motion!

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I agree with @airborneconcrete and @burrinrighthip on these points. 

Edited January 8, 2023 by ionel

[scourge165]

  On 1/8/2023 at 3:26 AM, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

Also Dean's dreaded "reverse cutback."

Some are calling him 'dirty' for his 'attempt to injure Amos' knee'

In regular speed, it looked like a mistake and a coincidence.  Does not look great in slow motion!

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Huh...I just thought the move should have been banned, but trying to figure out the intent behind it?

I'd give the benefit of the doubt to Dean. He doesn't strike me as a dirty Wrestler. Despite suggestions otherwise, the Bow and Arrow IS legal and as such...he did nothing wrong. 

  On 1/8/2023 at 3:11 AM, flyingcement said:

I also count no shows as a loss by pin so he isn't in the convo

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Well...that's not how they seed the Nationals, so...I don't see them making Yianni or Brooks a 9 seed.

If we're going based on who we think, I'd make a few changes, but if we're goin based on how they actually seed it, this looks good. 

 

 

 

[scourge165]

  On 1/8/2023 at 3:31 AM, ionel said:

 

I agree with @airborneconcrete and @burrinrighthip on these points. 

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Really? You think Dean was dirty in that match?

I just thought it was punishing...and looked bad. But dirty infers there was some ill will on his behalf. 

I will say that Amos is SO frustrating to watch. Like a LOT of Wrestlers in that 8-16 range, he could easily be in the top 4 and challenge the top guys, but it feels like it's mental. He started off with a headlock that...wouldn't work against a good varsity Wrestler and...probably wouldn't have been a slip it was so slow and Dean caught him.

Seems like it's been a LOONG time since people were talking about him beating Ferrari in the NCAAs last year(before the season started). 

 

Why guys, especially guys who are good in both styles, wrestle Greco in the off-season is baffling. I think Lamont is another Greco guy, right? Outside of HWT, you almost always know a guys not going to progress in College by Wrestling Greco.

 

/End Rant