Government Incompetence

[Husker_Du]

 

[red viking]

Meanwhile, orders of magnitude more than that get wasted by our military and the wingers conveniently ignore it. 

[ionel]

40 minutes ago, red viking said:

Meanwhile, orders of magnitude more than that get wasted by our military and the wingers conveniently ignore it. 

Yes 4 years of Biden and his left-wingers ignoring the important stuff.  

[Caveira]

1 hour ago, red viking said:

Meanwhile, orders of magnitude more than that get wasted by our military and the wingers conveniently ignore it. 

It just dawned on me.  You have the answer to everything so quickly I can’t comprehend why someone in the gov (state local and federal) haven’t solicited you for your ideas.  
 

Food for thought.  

[Offthemat]

1 hour ago, Husker_Du said:

 

Guy said today that none of them have even been started. 

[mspart]

2 hours ago, red viking said:

Meanwhile, orders of magnitude more than that get wasted by our military and the wingers conveniently ignore it. 

This has what to do with fighting the CA fires going on right now?   Absolutely nothing.   But it has been a go to for RV for years.   It holds no water just like the new CA reservoirs do not hold water because they have not been built although allocated.   I think you just like to hear yourself type.

mspart

 

[Caveira]

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTYw6K9x2/
 

apparently the mayor cut the fire department budget recently too…. And was on vacation in Africa…. She Wouldn’t answer questions.   0 words.   Looks like she took press conference lessons from kjp.   

[Caveira]

Around the 1:32 mark.  Biden makes a comment.  Announced the birth of his great grand child.   Then discussed their house not burning down.   At least it’s all about him.  All at a presser for the wildfires.   
 

 

Who is running this country?

 

also Joe Rogan predicted this in July lol.  The fires that is. 

[Caveira]

La mayor cutting fire dept budget 17m+

https://nypost.com/2025/01/08/us-news/la-mayor-karen-bass-cut-fire-department-funding-by-17-6m/

[Le duke]

 

Can you, or this person, explain how a dam will prevent wildfires?

We have reservoirs all over CO. Big ones, small ones. There were a bunch right near a couple of fires that happened back in 2020. One of them was right next to Lake Granby, the third largest body of water in CO. Unfortunately, you can’t pump water uphill fast enough, and you can’t scoop it out in enough volume with an aircraft, to make much, if any, dent in a truly large fire.

The most effective thing is a couple of big ass bulldozers and a bunch of dudes with chainsaws working behind them. Remove fuel, starve the fire, keep it from spreading. And, in the mountain west, there’s an unlimited supply of fuel.


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[Caveira]

1 minute ago, Le duke said:

Can you, or this person, explain how a dam will prevent wildfires?

We have reservoirs all over CO. Big ones, small ones. There were a bunch right near a couple of fires that happened back in 2020. One of them was right next to Lake Granby, the third largest body of water in CO. Unfortunately, you can’t pump water uphill fast enough, and you can’t scoop it out in enough volume with an aircraft, to make much, if any, dent in a truly large fire.

The most effective thing is a couple of big ass bulldozers and a bunch of dudes with chainsaws working behind them. Remove fuel, starve the fire, keep it from spreading. And, in the mountain west, there’s an unlimited supply of fuel.


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Can you explain why they are out of water ?   

[Le duke]

Can you explain why they are out of water ?   

Their reservoirs are actually fine. That’s public information and easily retrieved. Many of them are at or well over their historical averages.

https://cdec.water.ca.gov/resapp/RescondMain

The problem is delivery volume and pressure. If 70% of hydrants in an area are in use you get terrible pressure. Hell, you can see a drop in pressure in my neighborhood on any summer night when 10% of the houses are watering their yards at 9pm.

And, no amount of water that any human-made system can deliver is enough to extinguish one of these fires. There’s too much heat. Bulldozers and chainsaws.


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[Caveira]

7 minutes ago, Le duke said:

Their reservoirs are actually fine. That’s public information and easily retrieved. Many of them are at or well over their historical averages.

https://cdec.water.ca.gov/resapp/RescondMain

The problem is delivery volume and pressure. If 70% of hydrants in an area are in use you get terrible pressure. Hell, you can see a drop in pressure in my neighborhood on any summer night when 10% of the houses are watering their yards at 9pm.

And, no amount of water that any human-made system can deliver is enough to extinguish one of these fires. There’s too much heat. Bulldozers and chainsaws.


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reports say they spew nothing   Nada   Zero water   With that said   

which stare agency is at fault out there in Cali?   Surely someone is?

[ionel]

29 minutes ago, Le duke said:

Can you, or this person, explain how a dam will prevent wildfires?

We have reservoirs all over CO. Big ones, small ones. There were a bunch right near a couple of fires that happened back in 2020. One of them was right next to Lake Granby, the third largest body of water in CO. Unfortunately, you can’t pump water uphill fast enough, and you can’t scoop it out in enough volume with an aircraft, to make much, if any, dent in a truly large fire.
 

Yeah but we got goats

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/colorado/news/goat-bros-eat-fire-risk-colorado/

does California have goats?    

[Le duke]

reports say they spew nothing   Nada   Zero water   With that said   
which stare agency is at fault out there in Cali?   Surely someone is?

Was some state agency in AZ responsible when 500,000+ acres burned in the Wallow fire back in 2011?

Was some state agency in MT responsible when 1.2 million acres burned in 2012? Or 1.4 million in 2017?

Milford Flat Fire, UT, 2007. 363,000+. Bad lightning! Bad!

I don’t think you understand the problem here. You can piss on a bonfire all you want; that’s not putting it out. Now scale that up and you have the same thing. Water delivery after the fire starts isn’t putting these out.


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[Caveira]

1 minute ago, Le duke said:

Was some state agency in AZ responsible when 500,000+ acres burned in the Wallow fire back in 2011?

Was some state agency in MT responsible when 1.2 million acres burned in 2012? Or 1.4 million in 2017?

I don’t think you understand the problem here. You can piss on a bonfire all you want; that’s not putting it out. Now scale that up and you have the same thing. Water delivery after the fire starts isn’t putting these out.


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Did they prevent melt water from up north… and move it to go into the ocean?   For you know.   The environment?

[Le duke]

Yeah but we got goats
https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/colorado/news/goat-bros-eat-fire-risk-colorado/
does California have goats?    

My BIL’s parents’ house is up in Drake, near Estes Park. Cameron Peak fire came within 200m of their house. If it had jumped the creek, his dad would’ve bought the farm.

His neighbor just started keeping goats for this purpose. He’s about to get one himself.


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[Le duke]

Did they prevent melt water from up north… and move it to go into the ocean?   For you know.   The environment?

I genuinely have no clue what you are trying to say here.


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[Caveira]

Governor Gavin Newscum refused to sign the water restoration declaration put before him that would have allowed millions of gallons of water, from excess rain and snow melt from the North, to flow daily into many parts of California, including the areas that are currently burning in a virtually apocalyptic way,” Trump wrote today on his social media site Truth Social

[headshuck]

Wasn’t there funding allocated several years ago to build more reservoirs and it didn’t get done?

[Caveira]

4 minutes ago, headshuck said:

Wasn’t there funding allocated several years ago to build more reservoirs and it didn’t get done?

About 8b of it ya.  

[Le duke]

Governor Gavin Newscum refused to sign the water restoration declaration put before him that would have allowed millions of gallons of water, from excess rain and snow melt from the North, to flow daily into many parts of California, including the areas that are currently burning in a virtually apocalyptic way,” Trump wrote today on his social media site Truth Social

Ok. How would that additional water help?

As I showed, many reservoirs are in great shape. Water volume is not the problem. Delivery is.


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[Caveira]

1 minute ago, Le duke said:

Ok. How would that additional water help?

As I showed, many reservoirs are in great shape. Water volume is not the problem. Delivery is.


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The reservoirs are Empty as I understand it.  You can refute that.  Who knows.  

[headshuck]

Where I come from, every town has a water tower.

[Le duke]

Wasn’t there funding allocated several years ago to build more reservoirs and it didn’t get done?

The East Troublesome Fire burned along the western shore of Grand Lake, the third largest body of water in Colorado. 193,000 acres. The presence of a giant body of water nearby didn’t help, other than preventing it from spreading southeast by creating a firebreak.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Troublesome_Fire

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Lake_(Colorado)


Unless you can somehow transfer reservoir water into rain clouds, you’re still going to have an unlimited amount of dry fuel. You can’t pump water fast enough. Pissing on a bonfire.


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