Running a "Dry Program"?

[MinnesotaMustang]

Go walk around the nearest bar after Saturday night at NCAA’s and you’ll be surprised at who you run into. Yes, even Nittany Lions. No judgement, but these are college kids and they’re going to be college kids after all. 

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

On 12/29/2024 at 10:50 PM, bnwtwg said:

For Illinois residents under 21 they most certainly are. That's something I vehemently disagree with because if you can vote or enlist then why not partake, but that's a different political debate.

He wasn't in Illinois

[MNRodent]

On 12/29/2024 at 10:32 PM, scourge165 said:

That's a joke from...I can't remember the name, but the guy who makes all those Yellowstone shows, one of the new shows they make it on(and it's Tyler Sheridan and Landman is the name of the show).

...I was going to explain it, but I'll l just leave this here.

 

(Also, I don't know how people report their drinking, but I am very skeptical of the stats as Wisconsin had like 8 of the 10 drunkest Counties in the Country...now we drink here, but C'mon...tell me WV, Louisiana, Jersey, we're exponentially worse than those states? Our Drunk Driving laws are, but...well, anyway). 

 

 

 

"Liquor before beer, in the clear.

Beer before liquor, never sicker."

 

[CHROMEBIRD]

On 12/29/2024 at 1:22 PM, Caveira said:

Haven’t people.   Athletes.   Humans smoked tons of weed over the years?  I know I saw plenty in college.   Most professionals I know smoke it / eat it too.  I do wonder if they do it more now as it’s “legal” ish.   @WrestlingRasta

Yep. Though the angle I'm after is whether it's a lot tougher for coaches to attempt to run clean programs when weed is legal-ish and allowed by the NCAA

[BruceyB]

On 12/31/2024 at 1:12 PM, CHROMEBIRD said:

Yep. Though the angle I'm after is whether it's a lot tougher for coaches to attempt to run clean programs when weed is legal-ish and allowed by the NCAA

I wrestled where we had a dry season. That vast majority of guys still smoked or drank during the season at varying frequencies. My biggest takeaway from what our coach was trying to implement was that no one was partying or going out and making dumb decisions. If someone was drinking and made a stupid decision, it was easy to hammer the guy because his decision to break dry season led to him getting into trouble. I don't think the point was that it was a big issue if you had some beers with the guys at your house, it was more about creating a culture more focused on wrestling and less partying during the season.

[Konquest]

If you look at the Instagram accounts of college wrestlers, there are plenty of pictures of them at parties and bars, but rarely holding drinks.  It's possible to go out and socialize without partaking, you know.  Do the "dry" team rules mean that athletes can't go out?  I heard a Bo Nickal interview where he said that he went to the bar a lot because his GF (now wife) worked there but he never actually drank in college.

[666]

On 12/31/2024 at 9:12 PM, CHROMEBIRD said:

Yep. Though the angle I'm after is whether it's a lot tougher for coaches to attempt to run clean programs when weed is legal-ish and allowed by the NCAA

Is weed allowed by the NCAA? I thought they tested for it. 

[ionel]

Back to OP.  How do you run a "Wet Program?"

[BruceyB]

1 hour ago, Konquest said:

If you look at the Instagram accounts of college wrestlers, there are plenty of pictures of them at parties and bars, but rarely holding drinks.  It's possible to go out and socialize without partaking, you know.  Do the "dry" team rules mean that athletes can't go out?  I heard a Bo Nickal interview where he said that he went to the bar a lot because his GF (now wife) worked there but he never actually drank in college.

This is to the point of my previous post. The point of initiating a "dry" season isn't even necessarily to have athletes completely abstain from alcohol or marijuana, but if anything occurs due to substance use, it is a firm grounds for discipline. It's not the drinks or substance that are inherently the problem, it's over indulgence that leads to bad decisions. A dry season is to eliminate young men from making bad decisions more than to eliminate the use of any substance. It's more of a "it's not a problem unless it becomes a problem" kind of thing.

[CHROMEBIRD]

3 hours ago, 666 said:

Is weed allowed by the NCAA? I thought they tested for it. 

Not anymore. The NCAA only tests for postseason competition though, in-season drug testing is done by the individual schools or conferences.

 

17 hours ago, BruceyB said:

I wrestled where we had a dry season. That vast majority of guys still smoked or drank during the season at varying frequencies. My biggest takeaway from what our coach was trying to implement was that no one was partying or going out and making dumb decisions. If someone was drinking and made a stupid decision, it was easy to hammer the guy because his decision to break dry season led to him getting into trouble. I don't think the point was that it was a big issue if you had some beers with the guys at your house, it was more about creating a culture more focused on wrestling and less partying during the season.

We had something similar, it was "don't do stupid things" even though there was no official dry rule. It mostly worked itself out, during the season most wrestlers and pretty much all of the starters did very little if any partying by choice because everyone was so keyed into training, cutting, and keeping any sort of edge for competition. 

[CHROMEBIRD]

Also makes Randy Lewis's stories about all the heavy partying and drinking they did at Iowa, even the night before competition, all the more impressive to me. They were that good!

Edited Thursday at 09:41 PM by CHROMEBIRD

[Wrestleknownothing]

3 hours ago, ionel said:

Back to OP.  How do you run a "Wet Program?"

This was covered in Horrible Bosses

[ionel]

22 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

This was covered in Horrible Bosses

ahh ...