KennyEBHS Posted December 15 Posted December 15 125 pounds - Iowa: Kale Petersen/Joey Cruz - OSU: Troy Spratley - OSU win 133 pounds - Iowa: Drake Ayala - OSU Reece Witcraft - OSU win 141 pounds - Iowa: Ryder Block/Cullan Schriever - OSU: Tagen Jamison - OSU win 149 pounds - Iowa: Kyle Parco - OSU: Carter Young - IU win 157 pounds - Iowa: Jacori Teemer - OSU: Teague Travis - IU win 165 pounds - Iowa: Michael Caliendo - OSU: Cam Amine - OSU win 174 pounds - Iowa: Gabe Arnold/Nelson Brands/Patrick Kennedy - OSU: Dean Hamiti - OSU win 184 pounds - Iowa: Gabe Arnold/Nelson Brands - OSU: Dustin Plott - OSU win 197 pounds - Iowa: Stephan Buchanan - Luke Surber - IU win 285 pounds - Iowa: Ben Kueter - OSU: Wyatt Hendrickson - OSU win 18 - 9 without bonus points for either team.
Mr. PeanutButter Posted December 15 Posted December 15 Witcraft will need some witchcraft to beat Ayala (or a hail Mary). Cam Amine has never beaten Caliendo and is not looking great this year. We'll have to wait and see what Jacori looks like when (if) he comes back. Can't argue with anything else. It does seem like odds are slightly in OSU's favor though. Should be electric! 1
Pinnacle Posted December 15 Posted December 15 4 minutes ago, KennyEBHS said: 125 pounds - Iowa: Kale Petersen/Joey Cruz - OSU: Troy Spratley - OSU win 133 pounds - Iowa: Drake Ayala - OSU Reece Witcraft - OSU win 141 pounds - Iowa: Ryder Block/Cullan Schriever - OSU: Tagen Jamison - OSU win 149 pounds - Iowa: Kyle Parco - OSU: Carter Young - IU win 157 pounds - Iowa: Jacori Teemer - OSU: Teague Travis - IU win 165 pounds - Iowa: Michael Caliendo - OSU: Cam Amine - OSU win 174 pounds - Iowa: Gabe Arnold/Nelson Brands/Patrick Kennedy - OSU: Dean Hamiti - OSU win 184 pounds - Iowa: Gabe Arnold/Nelson Brands - OSU: Dustin Plott - OSU win 197 pounds - Iowa: Stephan Buchanan - Luke Surber - IU win 285 pounds - Iowa: Ben Kueter - OSU: Wyatt Hendrickson - OSU win 18 - 9 without bonus points for either team. Just now, Mr. PeanutButter said: Witcraft will need some witchcraft to beat Ayala (or a hail Mary). Cam Amine has never beaten Caliendo and is not looking great this year. We'll have to wait and see what Jacori looks like when (if) he comes back. Can't argue with anything else. It does seem like odds are slightly in OSU's favor though. Should be electric! I will argue with the 18-9 final score. Seems un possible. 1
Mr. PeanutButter Posted December 15 Posted December 15 2 minutes ago, Pinnacle said: I will argue with the 18-9 final score. Seems un possible. Yeah I think that's a stretch too. I would flip 133 and 165, which makes 15-12 in favor of Iowa but without much confidence in 157
KennyEBHS Posted December 15 Author Posted December 15 5 minutes ago, Mr. PeanutButter said: Witcraft will need some witchcraft to beat Ayala (or a hail Mary). Cam Amine has never beaten Caliendo and is not looking great this year. We'll have to wait and see what Jacori looks like when (if) he comes back. Can't argue with anything else. It does seem like odds are slightly in OSU's favor though. Should be electric! Totally agree! I would like to see Can Amine jump to Caliedo's level.
Pinnacle Posted December 15 Posted December 15 1 minute ago, Mr. PeanutButter said: Yeah I think that's a stretch too. I would flip 133 and 165, which makes 15-12 in favor of Iowa but without much confidence in 157 Even if closer, barring penalty points the two team scores must equal at least 30 points. 1
ionel Posted December 15 Posted December 15 6 minutes ago, Mr. PeanutButter said: Witcraft will need some witchcraft to beat Ayala (or a hail Mary). ... but when you combine witchcraft & magic ... 2 .
D3 for LU Posted December 15 Posted December 15 10 minutes ago, ionel said: ... but when you combine witchcraft & magic ... Hot Mustard Sauce! What a combo! D3 Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.
Mr. PeanutButter Posted December 15 Posted December 15 35 minutes ago, Pinnacle said: Even if closer, barring penalty points the two team scores must equal at least 30 points. 35 minutes ago, Pinnacle said: Even if closer, barring penalty points the two team scores must equal at least 30 points. Do'h! You're right. That flew over my head.
Hammerlock3 Posted December 15 Posted December 15 2 hours ago, Mr. PeanutButter said: Witcraft will need some witchcraft to beat Ayala (or a hail Mary). Cam Amine has never beaten Caliendo and is not looking great this year. We'll have to wait and see what Jacori looks like when (if) he comes back. Can't argue with anything else. It does seem like odds are slightly in OSU's favor though. Should be electric! I think Arnold might take plott would be my only addendum to this post. Doesn't Witcraft have to do something in college before we take him over a finalist? "Half measures are a coward's form of insanity."
ionel Posted December 15 Posted December 15 2 hours ago, Hammerlock3 said: I think Arnold might take plott would be my only addendum to this post. Doesn't Witcraft have to do something in college before we take him over a finalist? Wrestlestat.com has it 21-12 OSU and thats with Witcraft losing. The only way Witcraft wins is if by pin. No way Arnold beats Plott, it just can't happen bur sure stuff happens. .
Hammerlock3 Posted December 16 Posted December 16 (edited) 13 minutes ago, ionel said: Wrestlestat.com has it 21-12 OSU and thats with Witcraft losing. The only way Witcraft wins is if by pin. No way Arnold beats Plott, it just can't happen bur sure stuff happens. I'll sig bet you, 5/1 odds. meaning five weeks for you one for me. Edited December 16 by Hammerlock3 "Half measures are a coward's form of insanity."
ionel Posted December 16 Posted December 16 1 minute ago, Hammerlock3 said: I'll sig bet you, 5/1 odds. meaning five weeks for you one for me. Let's wait till we get into Feb, little too early for a Feb 23 sig bet but I should be game with even odds. .
Hammerlock3 Posted December 16 Posted December 16 5 minutes ago, ionel said: Let's wait till we get into Feb, little too early for a Feb 23 sig bet but I should be game with even odds. Even? You were throwing around snarky remarks about the idea 20 minutes ago. "Half measures are a coward's form of insanity."
ionel Posted December 16 Posted December 16 15 minutes ago, Hammerlock3 said: Even? You were throwing around snarky remarks about the idea 20 minutes ago. Does snarkiness change the actual odds? .
MPhillips Posted December 16 Posted December 16 I love a clever, 'snark' but I don't see any snark... .
Hammerlock3 Posted December 16 Posted December 16 3 minutes ago, ionel said: Does snarkiness change the actual odds? no your opinion changed based on being challenged on it. "Half measures are a coward's form of insanity."
Hammerlock3 Posted December 16 Posted December 16 2 minutes ago, MPhillips said: I love a clever, 'snark' but I don't see any snark... wrong word, i'll amend to say it was dismissive to say arnold beating plott would just be "stuff" happening, akin to being killed by lightening or something. "Half measures are a coward's form of insanity."
ionel Posted December 16 Posted December 16 1 minute ago, Hammerlock3 said: no your opinion changed based on being challenged on it. Don't think I even said who I'd pick in the dual, just reported the WS prediction. .
Hammerlock3 Posted December 16 Posted December 16 48 minutes ago, ionel said: No way Arnold beats Plott, it just can't happen bur sure stuff happens. This was an interpretation of wrestlestat? if so I apologize. "Half measures are a coward's form of insanity."
ionel Posted December 16 Posted December 16 2 minutes ago, Hammerlock3 said: wrong word, i'll amend to say it was dismissive to say arnold beating plott would just be "stuff" happening, akin to being killed by lightening or something. If you were talking about just betting the Plott v Arnold match then thats different. But let's wait till we get into Feb I might have lost my sig in some other gambling fiasco before then. .
Hammerlock3 Posted December 16 Posted December 16 2 minutes ago, ionel said: If you were talking about just betting the Plott v Arnold match then thats different. thats what I meant "Half measures are a coward's form of insanity."
BruceyB Posted December 16 Posted December 16 Looking at this matchup really shows how much Iowa has struggled to develop talent from within. Ayala and Arnold are the only guys on the roster that originally committed to Iowa and seem like solid bets to AA this year. Brands went on an unforeseeable run a couple years ago to AA but he hasn't impressed so far. Kueter could AA this year, and I think he'll be a title contender once the top guys clear out following this season. Ferrari should be ready to compete at a high level next year, but they don't have anyone else truly notable on their roster. FWIW I am not a fan of Iowa and their bravado, but the sport is undoubtedly better when Iowa is thriving. And before anyone starts listing off transfers on the OSU roster or any other teams, this is not an anti-transfer post. It's just notable that Iowa has brought in returning AAs at 4 different weights and still have two weights without a top 20 guy, and two weights with fringe AA/r12 guys.
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