Oh, Look. Another Right Wing Conspiracy Theory Proved True: Jan 6

[Husker_Du]

16 minutes ago, uncle bernard said:

What is the conspiracy? That the FBI had people undercover at a large political protest? They have people undercover at *every* large political protest. They've been doing this for 60 years.

For the record, I don't really care about Jan 6. I'm just not sure why you think this knowledge is supposed to upend my worldview?

i didn't insinuate it change your worldview. nor should it.

i'm just saying that many people on the right made the claim that feds played a part in it and, right on cue, they were called tin foil hatters by the mainstream news viewers.

the same pillars of light that denied wuhan, got vaxxed and boosted 8 times, and believed the steele dossier. 

[ionel]

So 23 just randomly showed up at the same place on their own time - no pay? 

[Lipdrag]

11 minutes ago, ionel said:

So 23 just randomly showed up at the same place on their own time - no pay? 

And none investigated, arrested, charged, jailed, convicted, etc.  These "informants are criminals and members of criminal groups" did no crimes in the biggest federal crime of the past 160 years?!?  What are the odds??? 

Really, what are the odds? . . . Bueller . . . Bueller.

Do FBI get blanket immunity - like Hunter Biden - for everything they have done or may do?  Or only for the things in which they are helping out the FBI?  Does an informant about money laundering get immunity against insurrection?  I suspect the immunity is for a narrow band of crimes and time and crimes outside of their particular expertise are still able to be prosecuted.

Or were all these insurrection informants - even the 23 supposedly not on the clock?

Edited Friday at 07:39 PM by Lipdrag

[uncle bernard]

47 minutes ago, Husker_Du said:

i didn't insinuate it change your worldview. nor should it.

i'm just saying that many people on the right made the claim that feds played a part in it and, right on cue, they were called tin foil hatters by the mainstream news viewers.

the same pillars of light that denied wuhan, got vaxxed and boosted 8 times, and believed the steele dossier. 

Well, to what extent are you/people on the right claiming the feds played a part? That's a pretty big factor. Based on the available info, if you think think the Feds orchestrated the thing, which some have claimed, that's still tin foil stuff.

[uncle bernard]

27 minutes ago, Lipdrag said:

And none investigated, arrested, charged, jailed, convicted, etc.  These "informants are criminals and members of criminal groups" did no crimes in the biggest federal crime of the past 160 years?!?  What are the odds??? 

Really, what are the odds? . . . Bueller . . . Bueller.

Do FBI get blanket immunity - like Hunter Biden - for everything they have done or may do?  Or only for the things in which they are helping out the FBI?  Does an informant about money laundering get immunity against insurrection?  I suspect the immunity is for a narrow band of crimes and time and crimes outside of their particular expertise are still able to be prosecuted.

Or were all these insurrection informants - even the 23 supposedly not on the clock?

No, they did do crimes. Their status as informants protects them. Are you really not familiar with this kind of arrangement?

[Caveira]

2 hours ago, uncle bernard said:

Well, to what extent are you/people on the right claiming the feds played a part? That's a pretty big factor. Based on the available info, if you think think the Feds orchestrated the thing, which some have claimed, that's still tin foil stuff.

Like did one of them repeatedly try to get them to go inside the capital?   That dude who was repeatedly on video……..   doing just that.  

[Lipdrag]

8 hours ago, uncle bernard said:

No, they did do crimes. Their status as informants protects them. Are you really not familiar with this kind of arrangement?

Let me get this right:  Your argument is that the insurrectionist expert criminals who became FBI informants were planted in a peaceful protest to incite an insurrection - one without guns, of course.  They then did criminally incite such insurrection in accordance with their expert criminality but had prior arranged immunity from the consequences of inciting such insurrection?

isn't that exactly the "conspiracy" that those you are ridiculing say came true?

Edited Saturday at 04:08 AM by Lipdrag

[ionel]

10 hours ago, uncle bernard said:

No, they did do crimes. Their status as informants protects them. Are you really not familiar with this kind of arrangement?

3 maybe protected but the 23 shouldn't be.

[RockLobster]

18 hours ago, 1032004 said:

What exactly was the conspiracy?  Wasn’t it that the FBI instigated the riot or something, not just a few of them maybe being in the crowd?

Yes, exactly.

Somehow, now that some of the J6 crowd were willing to accept money for information. They've suddenly turned into paid FBI agents in some peoples' (so-called) minds.

(It's almost as if 50% of adults here can't read at an 8th grade level.)

 

[ionel]

6 hours ago, RockLobster said:

(It's almost as if 50% of adults here can't read at an 8th grade level.)

You must be knew to this hear bored ... welcome! 

[gimpeltf]

6 hours ago, ionel said:

You must be knew to this hear bored ... welcome! 

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