"I'll quit drinking if you let me run the Pentagon"

[ionel]

29 minutes ago, mspart said:

I have a question about drinking.   I don't drink so I don't know that whole deal.   How many DOD secretaries have imbibed alcohol?  It was well known Teddy Kennedy was drunk most of the time but he was the revered Lion of the Senate. 

What level of drinking is ok and what level is not ok?   Why is this all of the sudden an issue for Hegseth and not for anyone else that held this position?  What kind of candidate would be ideal for this position?   What experience would be needed to do this job?   

What I'm getting is that because he drinks and has tats and hasn't administered anything, he must not be a good candidate.   He has a lot of years in the military and knows what the grunt and the veterans need and don't need.  He might be just the right kind of person to bring in a better perspective into the military readiness equation.   So an answer to the above questions might be a good starting point for understanding what is needed for this job.   

mspart

Who cares about that?  Has he ever put ketchup on a hotdog?  If so ... write your Senator!! 

[PortaJohn]

27 minutes ago, ionel said:

Who cares about that?  Has he ever put ketchup on a hotdog?  If so ... write your Senator!! 

I do believe what you put on your hot dog says a lot about your personality and maturity.  As a kid I was a hot dog with ketchup kind of guy and have matured to spicy mustard and relish.  

On a related topic. For those of you who come to NCAA's and order a cheesesteak with wiz please leave the region immediately.  Cheesesteak w/wiz eaters should never be trusted.  Correct cheese is American and if you happen to be a snooty aristocrat you order it with provolone.  Also, order it with onions.  Thats the correct way. 

[Caveira]

Hot dogs only have 

mustard 

neon relish 

pickle 

raw onion 

celery salt 

sport peppers 

On a steamed sesame seed bun. 

[Offthemat]

2 hours ago, mspart said:

I have a question about drinking.   I don't drink so I don't know that whole deal.   How many DOD secretaries have imbibed alcohol?  It was well known Teddy Kennedy was drunk most of the time but he was the revered Lion of the Senate. 

What level of drinking is ok and what level is not ok?   Why is this all of the sudden an issue for Hegseth and not for anyone else that held this position?  What kind of candidate would be ideal for this position?   What experience would be needed to do this job?   

What I'm getting is that because he drinks and has tats and hasn't administered anything, he must not be a good candidate.   He has a lot of years in the military and knows what the grunt and the veterans need and don't need.  He might be just the right kind of person to bring in a better perspective into the military readiness equation.   So an answer to the above questions might be a good starting point for understanding what is needed for this job.   

mspart

It might matter more when you drink.  When Milley was AWOL for a week or two to have surgery, nobody noticed he was missing. 

[red viking]

1 hour ago, ionel said:

Wait are you talking about first term or this one?   I'm sure you would've said that first time around correct?  So maybe this is only the 2nd most incompetent?

No. Diaper donny's 1st cabinet was WAY better than these clowns. 

[Tripnsweep]

5 hours ago, mspart said:

I have a question about drinking.   I don't drink so I don't know that whole deal.   How many DOD secretaries have imbibed alcohol?  It was well known Teddy Kennedy was drunk most of the time but he was the revered Lion of the Senate. 

What level of drinking is ok and what level is not ok?   Why is this all of the sudden an issue for Hegseth and not for anyone else that held this position?  What kind of candidate would be ideal for this position?   What experience would be needed to do this job?   

What I'm getting is that because he drinks and has tats and hasn't administered anything, he must not be a good candidate.   He has a lot of years in the military and knows what the grunt and the veterans need and don't need.  He might be just the right kind of person to bring in a better perspective into the military readiness equation.   So an answer to the above questions might be a good starting point for understanding what is needed for this job.   

mspart

Has anyone else nominated for this position gotten so drunk they publicly ranted on about their desire for people of a certain religion to be killed? I'm sure there have been some really awful nominees, but this is one where having a guy who promises to quit drinking if he gets the job isn't a good sign. It would be like Donald Jr. promising to lay off the blow if he gets nominated for some job. 

[Caveira]

8 minutes ago, Tripnsweep said:

Has anyone else nominated for this position gotten so drunk they publicly ranted on about their desire for people of a certain religion to be killed? I'm sure there have been some really awful nominees, but this is one where having a guy who promises to quit drinking if he gets the job isn't a good sign. It would be like Donald Jr. promising to lay off the blow if he gets nominated for some job. 

It’d be like figuring out which d brought the blow into the White House.  We were told it wasn’t hunter so who was doin that booger sugar if it wasn’t him?

[Tripnsweep]

24 minutes ago, Caveira said:

It’d be like figuring out which d brought the blow into the White House.  We were told it wasn’t hunter so who was doin that booger sugar if it wasn’t him?

 

[Caveira]

2 minutes ago, Tripnsweep said:

 

Like what about the last admin that was coked up ?   I dunno.  Seems like they messed up the country a little bit.  It wasn’t hunter I know that.   So who was it ?

[PortaJohn]

1 hour ago, Tripnsweep said:

Has anyone else nominated for this position gotten so drunk they publicly ranted on about their desire for people of a certain religion to be killed? I'm sure there have been some really awful nominees, but this is one where having a guy who promises to quit drinking if he gets the job isn't a good sign. It would be like Donald Jr. promising to lay off the blow if he gets nominated for some job. 

There isn't a more mythical drinker than Ulysses S Grant that held the position.  And we can't forget our man Jefferson Davis held the position.  Pushed Pierce to back the Kansas-Nebraska act.  He later full-filled his dream as the slave loving future leader of the confederacy.  Then you have John B Floyd who sent munitions to southern forts anticipating the civil war.  

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

20 hours ago, Tripnsweep said:

Because we elected a clown who is a convicted felon, so if that can happen, being a drunken idiot who has said and done *I poop my pants, don't laugh at me*ty things for years shouldn't be a big deal. 

DJT is absolutely NOT a convicted felon.  Total misinformation.

[Tripnsweep]

13 minutes ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

DJT is absolutely NOT a convicted felon.  Total misinformation.

Donald Trump was convicted on 34 felony counts of falsifying business records in May in New York.

 

A jury of New Yorkers found him guilty of all counts in connection with a hush-money payment made to an adult film star.

 

Judge Juan Merchan pushed back Trump's sentencing from September to 26 November, after the election.

 

He could still go forward with the sentencing as planned despite Trump's win, said former Brooklyn prosecutor Julie Rendelman.

 

But legal experts said it is unlikely that Trump would be sentenced to prison as an older, first-time offender.

 

If he was, his lawyers would appeal the sentence immediately, arguing that jail time would prevent him from conducting official duties and that he should remain free pending the appeal, Ms Rendelman said.

 

"The appellate process in that scenario could go on for years," she said.

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

Just now, Tripnsweep said:

Donald Trump was convicted on 34 felony counts of falsifying business records in May in New York.

 

A jury of New Yorkers found him guilty of all counts in connection with a hush-money payment made to an adult film star.

 

Judge Juan Merchan pushed back Trump's sentencing from September to 26 November, after the election.

 

He could still go forward with the sentencing as planned despite Trump's win, said former Brooklyn prosecutor Julie Rendelman.

 

But legal experts said it is unlikely that Trump would be sentenced to prison as an older, first-time offender.

 

If he was, his lawyers would appeal the sentence immediately, arguing that jail time would prevent him from conducting official duties and that he should remain free pending the appeal, Ms Rendelman said.

 

"The appellate process in that scenario could go on for years," she said.

He is literally not a convicted felon.  Hasn't been sentenced.  Not a convicted felon until sentenced.  You know... words have meaning esp legal terms.

Sorry.

[WrestlingRasta]

15 minutes ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

He is literally not a convicted felon.  Hasn't been sentenced.  Not a convicted felon until sentenced.  You know... words have meaning esp legal terms.

Sorry.

Everyone is certainly allowed to live in their own world, but it doesn’t change reality….

 

[Tripnsweep]

22 minutes ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

He is literally not a convicted felon.  Hasn't been sentenced.  Not a convicted felon until sentenced.  You know... words have meaning esp legal terms.

Sorry.

Must be nice living in fantasy land. 

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

22 minutes ago, WrestlingRasta said:

Everyone is certainly allowed to live in their own world, but it doesn’t change reality….

 

AI lol

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

20 minutes ago, Tripnsweep said:

Must be nice living in fantasy land. 

[Bigbrog]

I tried looking up what the definition of "convicted of a felon" means and it is quite confusing...some of the law sites indicate when the court determines the offender is guilty, and/or is sentenced.  I also looked up can a person that is a convicted felon run for president and there were conflicting things, but there were more articles indicating yes because the constitution doesn't make an indication about being a felon as a reason someone couldn't run and be the president.  There is probably zero chance he would ever see jail time and my guess is this will be overturned and thrown out.

Now back to the "drunk" trying to run the pentagon... 

[mspart]

https://nypost.com/2024/06/08/us-news/yale-law-professor-says-trump-isnt-a-convicted-felon-despite-guilty-verdict-heres-why/

Despite media reports, Rubenfeld insisted that it’s “not true” that Trump is already a “convicted felon,” arguing that one is “not a convicted felon because of a jury verdict.”

“You are not convicted until the judge enters that judgment of guilt. Now, in New York, it’s very likely that Judge Merchan will enter that judgment of guilt against Trump on the same day that he issues sentencing. That’d be July 11th.”

A jury found him guilty.   He is convicted when the judge enters that judgement and sentences the person found guilty.  

mspart

[red viking]

This is more right-wing sematics deflections He's a felon. Documented. Done deal.