Speaker of the House

[Plasmodium]

1 hour ago, jross said:

Why is a quorum not required for the presidential election?

Why are voters allowed to vote by mail for the presidency but not for the speaker?

What is the reasoning behind the difference in policies?

Presidential election is ceremonial and only useful for grandstanding rather than practical matters.   Additionally - members can only have meetings with donors, lobbyists and other revenue sources after they are sworn in, so that is job one. 

[mspart]

The longer they wrangle on this, the less shenanigans go on.   Let them fight about who should be speaker = less damage they can do.   With the vast majority of votes (203 out of 218 needed) in his favor, is it reasonable to think McCarthy will eventually not be speaker?

mspart

[Mike Parrish]

8 minutes ago, mspart said:

The longer they wrangle on this, the less shenanigans go on.   Let them fight about who should be speaker = less damage they can do.   With the vast majority of votes (203 out of 218 needed) in his favor, is it reasonable to think McCarthy will eventually not be speaker?

mspart

I think McCarthy is toast.

What happens after that is wide open.

[Mike Parrish]

McCarthy loses the 4th vote.

Hakeem Jeffries - 212
Kevin McCarthy - 201
Byron Donalds - 20
Present - 1

 

I'm starting to think that public humiliation is Kevin's kink?

[jross]

Which civics correspondence class teaches ballot harvesting?

 

[Mike Parrish]

2 minutes ago, jross said:

Which civics correspondence class teaches ballot harvesting?

 

The GOP one.

Happy to help!

[Mike Parrish]

Quote

Despite a long evening and morning of negotiations with Republicans, McCarthy was unable to move a single vote in his favor. In fact, with Rep. Victoria Spartz (R-IN) voting “present,” McCarthy actually lost one vote.

It’s also worth noting that Trump’s endorsement of McCarthy had no effect on votes.

The GOP leadership is also unable to pass an adjournment resolution.

This has no apparent end.

[Plasmodium]

It is now painfully obvious electing leadership is a nontrivial congressional duty, rather than a ceremonial one.  How can they do it without being sworn in?

[jross]

I want to know the net worth of every house member and how it has grown since their time in office.  We can't have another Pelosi type.

I liked what Jim Jordan said yesterday but his net worth is an unnatural $20+ million.

[Plasmodium]

2 minutes ago, jross said:

I want to know the net worth of every house member and how it has grown since their time in office.  We can't have another Pelosi type.

I liked what Jim Jordan said yesterday but his net worth is an unnatural $20+ million.

Most, if not all, have their tax returns online. Histories should be available as well.

[Mike Parrish]

13 minutes ago, Plasmodium said:

It is now painfully obvious electing leadership is a nontrivial congressional duty, rather than a ceremonial one.  How can they do it without being sworn in?

It's almost the only thing that they are allowed to do until the speaker is sworn in.

[mspart]

6 minutes ago, jross said:

I want to know the net worth of every house member and how it has grown since their time in office.  We can't have another Pelosi type.

Oh But I think we can and I think we will.  This current House majority may only last 2 years.   Anything can happen, especially in DC. 

mspart

[Plasmodium]

1 minute ago, Mike Parrish said:

It's almost the only thing that they are allowed to do until the speaker is sworn in.

Sounds like somebody else should swear them in.

[Mike Parrish]

Just now, Plasmodium said:

Sounds like somebody else should swear them in.

They can't.
The speaker has to be elected before that can occur.

[Mike Parrish]

Fifth vote is underway.

McCarthy has already lost this one too.

[jross]

4 minutes ago, Plasmodium said:

Most, if not all, have their tax returns online. Histories should be available as well.

I want a simple-to-access, centralized list, published on a government agency website, with annual updates.

[Plasmodium]

Just now, jross said:

I want a simple-to-access, centralized list, published on a government agency website, with annual updates.

People in hell want ice water!!

Seriously, archiving these things should be a journalism project somewhere.

[jross]

16 minutes ago, Plasmodium said:

People in hell want ice water!!

Seriously, archiving these things should be a journalism project somewhere.

So I was looking at https://caknowledge.com/jim-jordan-net-worth and it said $21M, but the prices for cars do not match reality, about page indicates India, and it doesn't match the formal financial disclosure forms at https://disclosures-clerk.house.gov/PublicDisclosure/FinancialDisclosure.  

This looks like a decent representation.  
https://www.opensecrets.org/personal-finances/top-net-worth

Edited January 4, 2023 by jross

[Mike Parrish]

After a fifth round of voting, the House failed once again to elect a speaker.

The vote totals for the fifth round:

• Hakeem Jeffries – 212
• Kevin McCarthy – 201
• Byron Donalds – 20
• Other – 0
• Present – 1

Once again, McCarthy was unable to move a single vote in his favor.

[Mike Parrish]

 

[Mike Parrish]

[Wrestleknownothing]

1 hour ago, jross said:

Which civics correspondence class teaches ballot harvesting?

 

Check the course descriptions

[Wrestleknownothing]

We are still far from what appears to be the record, 160 ballots (the first 159 requiring majority and the 160th requiring plurality) in 1856.

Don't be quitters.

[Mike Parrish]

1 minute ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

We are still far from what appears to be the record, 160 ballots (the first 159 requiring majority and the 160th requiring plurality) in 1856.

Don't be quitters.

Embrace the grind.

[Wrestleknownothing]

14 minutes ago, Mike Parrish said:

Embrace the grind.

"Chop wood, carry water, go for the Speaker of the House ballot record." - Nick Lee

That last part was more implied than stated, but if you listen closely...