Plasmodium Posted January 4, 2023 Posted January 4, 2023 On 1/4/2023 at 3:31 PM, jross said: Why is a quorum not required for the presidential election? Why are voters allowed to vote by mail for the presidency but not for the speaker? What is the reasoning behind the difference in policies? Expand Presidential election is ceremonial and only useful for grandstanding rather than practical matters. Additionally - members can only have meetings with donors, lobbyists and other revenue sources after they are sworn in, so that is job one.
mspart Posted January 4, 2023 Posted January 4, 2023 The longer they wrangle on this, the less shenanigans go on. Let them fight about who should be speaker = less damage they can do. With the vast majority of votes (203 out of 218 needed) in his favor, is it reasonable to think McCarthy will eventually not be speaker? mspart
Mike Parrish Posted January 4, 2023 Author Posted January 4, 2023 On 1/4/2023 at 5:21 PM, mspart said: The longer they wrangle on this, the less shenanigans go on. Let them fight about who should be speaker = less damage they can do. With the vast majority of votes (203 out of 218 needed) in his favor, is it reasonable to think McCarthy will eventually not be speaker? mspart Expand I think McCarthy is toast. What happens after that is wide open.
Mike Parrish Posted January 4, 2023 Author Posted January 4, 2023 McCarthy loses the 4th vote. Hakeem Jeffries - 212 Kevin McCarthy - 201 Byron Donalds - 20 Present - 1 I'm starting to think that public humiliation is Kevin's kink?
jross Posted January 4, 2023 Posted January 4, 2023 Which civics correspondence class teaches ballot harvesting?
Mike Parrish Posted January 4, 2023 Author Posted January 4, 2023 On 1/4/2023 at 6:36 PM, jross said: Which civics correspondence class teaches ballot harvesting? Expand The GOP one. Happy to help!
Mike Parrish Posted January 4, 2023 Author Posted January 4, 2023 Quote Despite a long evening and morning of negotiations with Republicans, McCarthy was unable to move a single vote in his favor. In fact, with Rep. Victoria Spartz (R-IN) voting “present,” McCarthy actually lost one vote. It’s also worth noting that Trump’s endorsement of McCarthy had no effect on votes. The GOP leadership is also unable to pass an adjournment resolution. Expand This has no apparent end.
Plasmodium Posted January 4, 2023 Posted January 4, 2023 It is now painfully obvious electing leadership is a nontrivial congressional duty, rather than a ceremonial one. How can they do it without being sworn in?
jross Posted January 4, 2023 Posted January 4, 2023 I want to know the net worth of every house member and how it has grown since their time in office. We can't have another Pelosi type. I liked what Jim Jordan said yesterday but his net worth is an unnatural $20+ million.
Plasmodium Posted January 4, 2023 Posted January 4, 2023 On 1/4/2023 at 7:18 PM, jross said: I want to know the net worth of every house member and how it has grown since their time in office. We can't have another Pelosi type. I liked what Jim Jordan said yesterday but his net worth is an unnatural $20+ million. Expand Most, if not all, have their tax returns online. Histories should be available as well. 1
Mike Parrish Posted January 4, 2023 Author Posted January 4, 2023 On 1/4/2023 at 7:10 PM, Plasmodium said: It is now painfully obvious electing leadership is a nontrivial congressional duty, rather than a ceremonial one. How can they do it without being sworn in? Expand It's almost the only thing that they are allowed to do until the speaker is sworn in.
mspart Posted January 4, 2023 Posted January 4, 2023 On 1/4/2023 at 7:18 PM, jross said: I want to know the net worth of every house member and how it has grown since their time in office. We can't have another Pelosi type. Expand Oh But I think we can and I think we will. This current House majority may only last 2 years. Anything can happen, especially in DC. mspart
Plasmodium Posted January 4, 2023 Posted January 4, 2023 On 1/4/2023 at 7:23 PM, Mike Parrish said: It's almost the only thing that they are allowed to do until the speaker is sworn in. Expand Sounds like somebody else should swear them in.
Mike Parrish Posted January 4, 2023 Author Posted January 4, 2023 On 1/4/2023 at 7:25 PM, Plasmodium said: Sounds like somebody else should swear them in. Expand They can't. The speaker has to be elected before that can occur.
Mike Parrish Posted January 4, 2023 Author Posted January 4, 2023 Fifth vote is underway. McCarthy has already lost this one too.
jross Posted January 4, 2023 Posted January 4, 2023 On 1/4/2023 at 7:22 PM, Plasmodium said: Most, if not all, have their tax returns online. Histories should be available as well. Expand I want a simple-to-access, centralized list, published on a government agency website, with annual updates.
Plasmodium Posted January 4, 2023 Posted January 4, 2023 On 1/4/2023 at 7:29 PM, jross said: I want a simple-to-access, centralized list, published on a government agency website, with annual updates. Expand People in hell want ice water!! Seriously, archiving these things should be a journalism project somewhere. 1
jross Posted January 4, 2023 Posted January 4, 2023 (edited) On 1/4/2023 at 7:34 PM, Plasmodium said: People in hell want ice water!! Seriously, archiving these things should be a journalism project somewhere. Expand So I was looking at https://caknowledge.com/jim-jordan-net-worth and it said $21M, but the prices for cars do not match reality, about page indicates India, and it doesn't match the formal financial disclosure forms at https://disclosures-clerk.house.gov/PublicDisclosure/FinancialDisclosure. This looks like a decent representation. https://www.opensecrets.org/personal-finances/top-net-worth Edited January 4, 2023 by jross 1
Mike Parrish Posted January 4, 2023 Author Posted January 4, 2023 After a fifth round of voting, the House failed once again to elect a speaker. The vote totals for the fifth round: Hakeem Jeffries – 212 Kevin McCarthy – 201 Byron Donalds – 20 Other – 0 Present – 1 Once again, McCarthy was unable to move a single vote in his favor.
Wrestleknownothing Posted January 4, 2023 Posted January 4, 2023 On 1/4/2023 at 6:36 PM, jross said: Which civics correspondence class teaches ballot harvesting? Expand Check the course descriptions Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge
Wrestleknownothing Posted January 4, 2023 Posted January 4, 2023 We are still far from what appears to be the record, 160 ballots (the first 159 requiring majority and the 160th requiring plurality) in 1856. Don't be quitters. 1 Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge
Mike Parrish Posted January 4, 2023 Author Posted January 4, 2023 On 1/4/2023 at 8:38 PM, Wrestleknownothing said: We are still far from what appears to be the record, 160 ballots (the first 159 requiring majority and the 160th requiring plurality) in 1856. Don't be quitters. Expand Embrace the grind.
Wrestleknownothing Posted January 4, 2023 Posted January 4, 2023 On 1/4/2023 at 8:40 PM, Mike Parrish said: Embrace the grind. Expand "Chop wood, carry water, go for the Speaker of the House ballot record." - Nick Lee That last part was more implied than stated, but if you listen closely... Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge
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