Donald Trump’s cognitive decline becoming a troubling concern

[Wrestleknownothing]

1 minute ago, Caveira said:

I don’t eat at mcds.   You’re from the party that is supposed to be helping poor people.  They can’t afford good food.  They can’t afford to get an id to vote.  Thats too racist.   They don’t have $ to invest.   I did fine in markets.   Help your people.  

I am fine financially.   

You continue not to know what you are talking about. I am a registered Republican, and was proud of the fact, until Donald Trump flipped.

[Caveira]

2 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

You continue not to know what you are talking about. I am a registered Republican, and was proud of the fact, until Donald Trump flipped.

You forget.  I’ve never voted for Trump.  And have said that repeatedly.  And won’t be this time.  

[Wrestleknownothing]

1 minute ago, Caveira said:

You forget.  I’ve never voted for Trump.  And have said that repeatedly.  And won’t be this time.  

Nor have I said you did. Nor have I said you support Trump. Rather than retyping what I did say, feel free to scroll back.

[Saylors_Tiny_Willie]

15 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

I am not sure what 10 years has to do with 2 years, but as long as we are stretching the window, the S&P 500 is up 277% over the same period.

Again, stop going to McDonalds. Start investing.

Come on, man.

What's he going to use for capital?
You think he's going to sell the wheels off his house?

[Caveira]

Just now, Wrestleknownothing said:

Nor have I said you did. Nor have I said you support Trump. Rather than retyping what I did say, feel free to scroll back.

Your cool wkn.   Your contribution to the wrestling board is great.  Beyond great tbh…. I respect your thoughts / intelligence etc…..    

[jross]

48 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

First, hamburger is not up 75% since the end of 2022. That is just dumb. Hamburger was up 4.3% in 2023. Not sure what 2024 is so far, but it aint 70%.

Second, invest less in hamburgers, more in stocks.

It is closer to 70% than 4.3%.

At Five Guys, a cheeseburger was $7.79 in April 2021 and is $11.79 in October 2024.  That is a 51% increase.  [All Prices Ann Arbor, MI]

Yes -- invest in stock.

 

[Wrestleknownothing]

3 minutes ago, jross said:

It is closer to 70% than 4.3%.

At Five Guys, a cheeseburger was $7.79 in April 2021 and is $11.79 in October 2024.  That is a 51% increase.  [All Prices Ann Arbor, MI]

Yes -- invest in stock.

 

The average price of ground beef in 2022 was $4.81. The average price of ground beef in 2023 was $5.02, 4.3% higher.

https://www.nationalbeefwire.com/retail-ground-beef-prices-by-month-retail-ground-beef-prices-were-at-5-23-lb-in-december

 

[jross]

13 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

The average price of ground beef in 2022 was $4.81. The average price of ground beef in 2023 was $5.02, 4.3% higher.

https://www.nationalbeefwire.com/retail-ground-beef-prices-by-month-retail-ground-beef-prices-were-at-5-23-lb-in-december

Beyond the beef, other burger parts like white bread is 59% higher while the tomato is 1% less in March 2024 as compared to 2019.

• https://time.com/6899759/why-burgers-cost-more-2024/
   

Beef is up 30%+ between October 2019 and October 2024.

• https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/APU0000703113

[jross]

As Seen On Fox News...

Why is it that during Democrat years, the only thing getting beefed up in the economy is the price of beef?

[Wrestleknownothing]

6 minutes ago, jross said:

Beyond the beef, other burger parts like white bread is 59% higher while the tomato is 1% less in March 2024 as compared to 2019.

• https://time.com/6899759/why-burgers-cost-more-2024/
   

Beef is up 30%+ between October 2019 and October 2024.

• https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/APU0000703113

I stand by my prior statement that it is dumb to say hamburger is up 75% in two years.

[Offthemat]

2 minutes ago, jross said:

As Seen On Fox News...

Why is it that during Democrat years, the only thing getting beefed up in the economy is the price of beef?

Because from taxes to regulations, they make it more difficult and more expensive to do commerce. 

[Saylors_Tiny_Willie]

19 minutes ago, jross said:

As Seen On Fox News...

Why is it that during Democrat years, the only thing getting beefed up in the economy is the price of beef?

The Dow would like a word.

[Offthemat]

26 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

I stand by my prior statement that it is dumb to say hamburger is up 75% in two years.

You can stand on your head, burger that was $3.99 pre-inflation is now $6.99.

[Saylors_Tiny_Willie]

1 minute ago, Offthemat said:

You can stand on your head, burger that was $3.99 pre-inflation is now $6.99.

"One particular company raises their prices and that means INFLATION!"

[WrestlingRasta]

This thread became amazing this evening during trick or treat time. 

[Wrestleknownothing]

9 minutes ago, Offthemat said:

You can stand on your head, burger that was $3.99 pre-inflation is now $6.99.

Such a non-sensical comment and with such made up numbers. You have a strong pattern.

[Saylors_Tiny_Willie]

42 minutes ago, WrestlingRasta said:

This thread became amazing this evening during trick or treat time. 

Yeah. Who let all these weirdos in my thread?

[ionel]

1 hour ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

The average price of ground beef in 2022 was $4.81. The average price of ground beef in 2023 was $5.02, 4.3% higher.

https://www.nationalbeefwire.com/retail-ground-beef-prices-by-month-retail-ground-beef-prices-were-at-5-23-lb-in-december

 

I don't know about that but its $8/lb here.   

[jross]

2 hours ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

I stand by my prior statement that it is dumb to say hamburger is up 75% in two years.

But if 'feels' like its 100%.

[Saylors_Tiny_Willie]

First it was ramps.

https://www.newsweek.com/video-donald-trump-struggling-enter-garbage-truck-goes-viral-1977750

[Saylors_Tiny_Willie]

That darned Elon Computer.

https://www.the-express.com/news/politics/153316/trump-faces-rally-ivf-repeat

[scourge165]

5 hours ago, jross said:

Your decision to omit pandemic context has revealed your own incompetence.  You have a knack for 'performative accountability.'

First of all, Trump lots manufacturing jobs BEFORE Covid came. We'd lost 43,000 jobs. He had NOT rebuild manufacturing in the US, that's just a lie.

"performative accountability?"

 The ignorance in this election is just unfathomable.

 

Obama left Trump with ONE primary message. Be prepared for the next pandemic. We'd had pandemics, we WILL have another one.

We had an ENTIRE infrastructure in place for a pandemic(I've said this to YOU before, so you're just playing dumb now or you don't WANT to know the truth). 

 

This started six MONTHS before it got to the United States. Trump said it wasn't coming here. We had 43 infectious disease specialists IN WUHAN. We had infectious disease specialists in multiple places in Africa(remember the Ebola scares, SARS, various potential pandemics that the UNITED STATES as the world leaders came in, did contract tracing, quarantined people, and had ACTUAL travel restrictions(unlike the fake China travel restrictions in which 40,000 people flew to and from China in the 3 months from Feb to April. The time Trump was saying it would "magically disappear."

You think MAYBE that 5-6 month head start and KNOWING what we were dealing with as opposed to trusting the CCP and their disclosure could have helped prevent Covid from spreading to every corner of the world?

 

Why did he recall NEARLY every infectious disease specialist? Why did he disband the pandemic response team(which happened at HIS orders only for him to later claim...he had no idea, he'd never heard of them and AS PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, he took "no responsibility at all?"

 

But lets talk about "performative accountability." Biden comes in, LIKE Obama. An economy in absolute tatters. We had supply line issues, we had factories shutting down due to Covid outbreaks and we had price gouging. The cost to the US Economy is estimated at 14 trillion DOLLARS on top of Trump taking the Debt at growing it by 10 TRILLION dollars while keeping interest rates low(or the Fed did that, but Trump believes the Fed will report to him and under project 2025, they would). 

 

So Trump deserves ZERO blame for letting Covid run rampant despite it being the ONE brief left on his desk and the desk of EVERY staffer only for it to be ENTIRELY disregarded, he deserves no blame for ACTUAL travel restrictions(what he actually did was tell the State Department to stop issuing new passports...nothing about existing ones). 

 

But you're going to try and tell me at the SAME FCKN TIME that Biden gets ALL of the blame for inflation, a lagging indicator and one that was already starting to increase when Trump was leaving office? 

 

Either you just don't understand what you're talking about and you're parroting lazy talking points, or this is one of the most intellectually dishonest discussions I've ever had. 

 

(I'd also LOVE if you could tell me what JUST 10% across-the-boardnever mind tariffs do and who pays for them, nevermind 20% and 60% tariffs with China, not with a scalpel, with a sledgehammer. Hope you're not invested in AAPL stock. Your phones are going to increase by about 60%. 

 

 

"We will not see Coronavirus come here."

 

 

[scourge165]

5 hours ago, Offthemat said:

Because from taxes to regulations, they make it more difficult and more expensive to do commerce. 

Oh Christ....the stupidity of shit shit. 

If  only you could look at the GDP, see the GROWTH, watch as the United States has become the OVERWHELMING powerhouse in designing GPUs with NVDA and AVGO, the Chip act(which Trump said he'd repeal and was one of the most successful pieces of economic policies in Presidential History, the act at the heart of the AI revolution) and you look at POSITIVE GDP growth vs Trump's NEGATIVE GDP growth!

 

It's all good. I understand much of this is over the heads of those re-posting Fox News Graph and I bought a couple thousand shares(pre-splitS) of NVDA in '20(as well as TSM, AVGO). I'll sell that and I'll be fine, but Trump and his team aren't even hiding what they plan on doing and people are still just blindly repeating this ignorant shit.

 

GDP GROWING 5-6% MORE under Biden than under Trump. 

But yeah, they're making it "harder to do commerce." The 3 TSM plants going on line in Arizona were 'hard to do,' with relatively small grants and MASSIVE investments. 

The Google investments in Wisconsin, the AMZN, META, MSFT growth, NVDA going from a 250M to 3.5 TRILLION dollar company, again, in thee MOST important economic sector for the next 100 years. The mechanism we'll use to DEFEND ourselves, to find and cure cancer(AI is already helping identify breast cancer 5 years before any Dr would be able to detect it)...THAT WAS BIDEN. That was the Chips act.

 

 

But I get it...y'all are so afraid of some tranny you've never met and you like the guy who has bankrupted DOZENS of small businesses, turned 400M into less money than if he'd JUST stuck it into an index fun, bankrupted casinos, screwed pornstars, cheated on every woman he's been with, THEN played the Christian and when asked if he's ever asked for forgiveness, responded, "I keep God out of that." 

 

 

The man is TELLING you what he's going to do. Across the board tariffs! 40 of his 44 cabinet members had come out and said they will either endorse Kamal or NOT endorse him. They're OPENLY talking about taking what is now a BOOMING economy that's a curly hair away from the ideal 2% inflation and he's going to send it into a recession with his tariffs(Musk's words...and it'll be Musk overseeing it, another immigrant working here "illegally," like his wife(Which...IDGAF a bout, but if you'r going to complain about immigrants breaking their backs working construction and not this, you're comical hypocrites)...

 

If that's what you need because you struggle to understand inflation and economics and you want to lay that at Biden's feet(it's not even Trump's "fault" unless you consider a world in which he dealt with COVID like a competent President)...then that's on you. 

I've been lucky enough to do better than I could have dreamt of the past 4 years. Again, I'll pull everything out, maybe buy a few multi-families when the recession hits(I did it last time) and live off the dividends of Bond ETFs... until we get another grown-up in there. That's IF we have an election in 2028. 

[scourge165]

On 10/31/2024 at 1:12 AM, Tripnsweep said:

I wonder sometimes what would have happened if Gary Hart had become president. 

I was JUST talking to my Dad about this earlier today. 

It was more in a "if he was running now," tone though. He'd probably get bonus points for having an affair with someone better looking, but if he were running against a Republican, they'd say he was a "stain on the Oval office, not fit to hold office."

If it was anyone but Trump. Think about how History turns on a dime though. Bush Sr...pretty good President. He was trying to get the debt under control. 1 of 3 President's since who did and he got fired for it(for one of the ones who actually did balance the budget). 

[scourge165]

21 hours ago, WrestlingRasta said:

Scourge coming in heavy and with some fire. 
 

Kudos, well said. 

I swore I was going to stop, but when they start saying the quiet parts out loud...not the racist shit...I think he's an asshole but not particularly racist. If you give him loyalty, he'll love you(look at his past with Diddy).

It's the Economics of it. I really will be alright, but if you're in your 50s...the plan they're laying out, you will NOT recover AND they're openly talking about cutting your SS and Medicare on top of a planned recession to cut debt...which obviously won't work. The only way to cut debt...is kinda what we're doing. We're out of the economic dispair, you invest in revolutionary industry and you GROW the GDP while slowing spending.

NOBODY is slowing spending, but the Chip Act...of all the things to repeal, the key that will unlock the world's next Super Power. China is so desperate to get their hands on our chips, they're taking our scraps and then trying to buy them 3rd party. 

 

Shit, use that. Give China a VERY limited number of the H200 NV36 in negotiations. We've got the B200 NV72 coming out. 

But taxes our OWN businesses and people on shit China sells?

 

Hey, I'm even for 40% tariffs on companies that move out of the US(I don't even know if that's feasible or if it's just lead to less competition, but that I could at least understand...if you leave, you'll pay). 

 

It's like we have a gun to our head, we're saying we're going to pull a trigger and people are like, 'yeah, that make sense...because the other person's boss had a concussion!