Fletcher Posted September 26 Share Posted September 26 (edited) So many HS kids are now coming into college with wins over AAs and NCAA champs already under their belt and reaching AA status as freshman. It makes me wonder if development in college is a thing of the past. What are some recent examples of guys who were not good as freshman but reached AA status by senior year? Off the top of my head, Dan Dennis jumps out, but that was decades ago. Edited September 26 by Fletcher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jchapman Posted September 26 Share Posted September 26 Anthony Cassar 1 1 1 Craig Henning got screwed in the 2007 NCAA Finals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idaho Posted September 26 Share Posted September 26 Drew Foster was something like 11-24 his first two years....then finished as a national champ. 2 2 Sponsored by INTERMAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jchapman Posted September 26 Share Posted September 26 Michael Macchiavello 1 Craig Henning got screwed in the 2007 NCAA Finals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idaho Posted September 26 Share Posted September 26 4 minutes ago, jchapman said: Michael Macchiavello Another one with a losing record his first couple of years. I think his national title was his only AA finish as well. 1 Sponsored by INTERMAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fletcher Posted September 26 Author Share Posted September 26 23 minutes ago, jchapman said: Anthony Cassar In his first year competing (So) he was 16-2. I think he was pretty good from the start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jchapman Posted September 26 Share Posted September 26 3 minutes ago, Fletcher said: In his first year competing (So) he was 16-2. I think he was pretty good from the start. That was his fourth year of college and he wasn't the varsity wrestler for the postseason. Craig Henning got screwed in the 2007 NCAA Finals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1032004 Posted September 26 Share Posted September 26 Mach and Foster have to be 2 of the best recent examples. I guess you could put Cassar in there, he did have several not good losses his redshirt year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortaJohn Posted September 26 Share Posted September 26 Little further back but would Brock Lesnar count? 1 I Don't Agree With What I Posted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interviewed_at_Weehawken Posted September 26 Share Posted September 26 13 minutes ago, 1032004 said: Mach and Foster have to be 2 of the best recent examples. I guess you could put Cassar in there, he did have several not good losses his redshirt year. Which redshirt? Didn't he have 2 or 3? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jchapman Posted September 26 Share Posted September 26 15 minutes ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said: Which redshirt? Didn't he have 2 or 3? Yes, he redshirted, then two medical redshirts 1 Craig Henning got screwed in the 2007 NCAA Finals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idaho Posted September 26 Share Posted September 26 2 hours ago, PortaJohn said: Little further back but would Brock Lesnar count? JC 5th to D1 national champ is a big jump. 1 1 1 Sponsored by INTERMAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted September 26 Share Posted September 26 2 hours ago, jchapman said: Yes, he redshirted, then two medical redshirts Two medicals that he left on the table. We will never know because we only got to see him compete through his Soph season of eligibility. 1 "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted September 26 Share Posted September 26 3 hours ago, 1032004 said: Mach and Foster have to be 2 of the best recent examples. I guess you could put Cassar in there, he did have several not good losses his redshirt year. I think Macch and Foster are the examples to use. "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRedFan Posted September 26 Share Posted September 26 JJ Chavez (Cornell) went 0-1 freshman year, 0-0 his sophomore year, and 23-6 his junior year, finishing 7th at NCAAs. Didn't wrestle his senior year. (if you want to see what a GR specialist can do, watch the end of his match against Buffalo (listen to the Buffalo crowd briefly yell in anticipation): 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus Posted September 27 Share Posted September 27 He was a huge recruit out of high school but Andrew Alirez improved a ton between sophomore and junior year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalWrestler Posted September 27 Share Posted September 27 Jordan Burroughs was 16-13 his first year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boconnell Posted September 27 Share Posted September 27 Derek White from RS to Senior 6-3 4-3 11-8 23-4 30-2 lost in the finals 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted September 27 Share Posted September 27 9 hours ago, CalWrestler said: Jordan Burroughs was 16-13 his first year. Also going from 149 to 157 to 165. 6 hours ago, boconnell said: Derek White from RS to Senior 6-3 4-3 11-8 23-4 30-2 lost in the finals See above. White also put on pounds. "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadChill Posted September 27 Share Posted September 27 Kerry McCoy? Freshman record at 190: 19-17 Sophomore at HWT: 21-0 (NCAA 1st) Junior at HWT: 43-1 (NCAA 3rd) Senior at HWT: 41-0 (NCAA 1st) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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