Weird video (in reference to Starocci and separately, youth wrestlers)

[1032004]

1) Claiming that Starocci is getting $1.2-$1.3 million this year.  Weird how the kid jumps in to correct the coach

2) Club coach telling all his wrestlers they should get held back (and the club was the one that posted this to social media)

[KCMO2]

Guy's an idiot.  He uses the only (possible) 5x NCAA champ ever as a reason why kids should get held back.  Guessing this douche doesn't have kids.

[Jimmy Cinnabon]

That's a bargain if Iowa is paying $500,000 for Kyle Parco.

[1032004]

  On 8/29/2024 at 7:54 PM, Jimmy Cinnabon said:

That's a bargain if Iowa is paying $500,000 for Kyle Parco.

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Points at NCAA’s last season:

Starocci 20

Buchanan 17

Teemer 17

Parco 11

 

Seems like Iowa is getting more points per $ in this hypothetical

[TNwrestling]

  On 8/29/2024 at 7:48 PM, KCMO2 said:

Guy's an idiot.  He uses the only (possible) 5x NCAA champ ever as a reason why kids should get held back.  Guessing this douche doesn't have kids.

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you realize hes being facetious right?

[MPhillips]

  On 8/29/2024 at 7:38 PM, 1032004 said:

2) Club coach telling all his wrestlers they should get held back (and the club was the one that posted this to social media)

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Columbus's club...

[1032004]

  On 8/29/2024 at 8:09 PM, TNwrestling said:

you realize hes being facetious right?

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Is he?  I didn’t get that impression 

[Jimmy Cinnabon]

  On 8/29/2024 at 8:06 PM, 1032004 said:

Points at NCAA’s last season:

Starocci 20

Buchanan 17

Teemer 17

Parco 11

 

Seems like Iowa is getting more points per $ in this hypothetical

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Yes but being able to claim a NCAA Champion is worth a lot more than just saying you had an All-American.

[KCMO2]

  On 8/29/2024 at 8:09 PM, TNwrestling said:

you realize hes being facetious right?

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Umm, don't think so.  Not when he's talking to a bunch of kids who don't get it.  And if he is, then he's a bigger idiot than I originally thought.

[TNwrestling]

  On 8/29/2024 at 8:28 PM, KCMO2 said:

Umm, don't think so.  Not when he's talking to a bunch of kids who don't get it.  And if he is, then he's a bigger idiot than I originally thought.

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good lord...do you believe everything you read on the internet as undisputable fact? hes joking with the kids. the parents are in the room

 

yall get bent out of shape or the weirdest things

[KCMO2]

  On 8/29/2024 at 8:55 PM, TNwrestling said:

good lord...do you believe everything you read on the internet as undisputable fact? hes joking with the kids. the parents are in the room

 

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Didn't read it, saw it.  And do you really joke like that with younger kids?  And why the hell would a club post that to social media?  If he's joking then so be it, but he needs to catch a clue either way, and so do you.

[1032004]

  On 8/29/2024 at 8:55 PM, TNwrestling said:

good lord...do you believe everything you read on the internet as undisputable fact? hes joking with the kids. the parents are in the room

 

yall get bent out of shape or the weirdest things

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I’m not sure I follow.  He appears to be “joking” in the sense that he probably doesn’t really think every single kid in the room should get held back, but he certainly seems to be saying that it will benefit your wrestling career 

[Hammerlock3]

what a dumbass

[flyingcement]

@TNwrestling

I also didn't get the impression he was joking about the overarching point he was making, even if some of the hyperboles within were intentional for comedy ("my advice today is to get held back").  

Maybe you know him better than we do - but genuinely curious what gave you the impression he wasn't being serious.  It is easy for snippets of things to be caught out of context and appear misleadingly bad.  If this is one of those cases, enlighten us.  

[Caveira]

I thought psu didn’t pay the big bucks.   They just have fun. Weird.  Did Cstar get held back?

[1032004]

  On 8/29/2024 at 10:28 PM, flyingcement said:

@TNwrestling

I also didn't get the impression he was joking about the overarching point he was making, even if some of the hyperboles within were intentional for comedy ("my advice today is to get held back").  

Maybe you know him better than we do - but genuinely curious what gave you the impression he wasn't being serious.  It is easy for snippets of things to be caught out of context and appear misleadingly bad.  If this is one of those cases, enlighten us.  

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He wasn’t.  Here he is on x defending it:

Honestly the most dumb thing he said in the video was probably that he thinks the 30 scholarship thing will actually lead to more total scholarships being available

[Caveira]

  On 8/29/2024 at 11:39 PM, 1032004 said:

He wasn’t.  Here he is on x defending it:

Honestly the most dumb thing he said in the video was probably that he thinks the 30 scholarship thing will actually lead to more total scholarships being available

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Was he RBYs coach ?

[MPhillips]

  He tells all his guys to get held back. There are other forum post' I've read, just not here...

 

[Gus]

  On 8/29/2024 at 8:55 PM, TNwrestling said:

good lord...do you believe everything you read on the internet as undisputable fact? hes joking with the kids. the parents are in the room

 

yall get bent out of shape or the weirdest things

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Yeah, this guy is is definitely not joking at all.. He is 100% serious.

[1032004]

 

[Dogbone]

  On 8/29/2024 at 8:55 PM, TNwrestling said:

good lord...do you believe everything you read on the internet as undisputable fact? hes joking with the kids. the parents are in the room

 

yall get bent out of shape or the weirdest things

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Are you talking about the $1.3M, because in that case he might be being facetious.    But the criticism for why this coach is an idiot is because he telling, in a serious manner, all of his kids they should be held back. 

I doubt every kid he called out by name is a future D1 AA so that extra year isn't going to help most of those kids in the long run.  I have never heard of this guy so I doubt if he had one more year of eligibility and all the sudden his life is different.   Perhaps spend more time trying to get your kids better at wrestling and life than trying to facilitate 19 year old seniors. 

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

  On 8/30/2024 at 2:09 PM, Dogbone said:

Are you talking about the $1.3M, because in that case he might be being facetious.    But the criticism for why this coach is an idiot is because he telling, in a serious manner, all of his kids they should be held back. 

I doubt every kid he called out by name is a future D1 AA so that extra year isn't going to help most of those kids in the long run.  I have never heard of this guy so I doubt if he had one more year of eligibility and all the sudden his life is different.   Perhaps spend more time trying to get your kids better at wrestling and life than trying to facilitate 19 year old seniors. 

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Ben Askren, a pretty good wrestler and coach, doesn't seem to be a fan of holding kids back.  I know he definitely feels NOT being held back helped him in the long run.  His belief is that graduating on time gave him quicker access to tougher training partners, D1 competition, D1 training and facilities, and D1 coaching (although he had a great high school coach.)  He felt that getting all that stuff a year earlier (actually on time) put him ahead of many of his contemporaries.

[Fletcher]

  On 8/29/2024 at 8:55 PM, TNwrestling said:

good lord...do you believe everything you read on the internet as undisputable fact? hes joking with the kids. the parents are in the room

 

yall get bent out of shape or the weirdest things

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Yea - I thought this too. He's calling out kids who were not held back and saying they should have been. I don't think anyone would do that unless they were joking.

Or maybe he's half-joking; like he sees the value in holding back but is exaggerating here for laughs?

[MPhillips]

It's his philosophy and he's made it known before. He's posted as much in other forums. This is a fact, not a guess nor is it just my thought or opinion.

[1032004]

  On 8/30/2024 at 2:09 PM, Dogbone said:

I have never heard of this guy so I doubt if he had one more year of eligibility and all the sudden his life is different.

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Brakan Mead.  I’m sure it did help him in particular especially if he got any scholarship money.  Looks like he won a state title as a senior at 113, then wrestled 2 years at Ohio State getting a few starts, with his best win being over Jack Medley.

It probably helps the guys the most that are on the borderline of being D1 or not.  Not sure it makes much difference for the elite guys though.