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30 minutes ago, jross said:

Yes, there’s clear right-wing hypocrisy. Trump often lies, and while he faces criticism for it, many people (this forum, right wingers, etc.) question his character. His draft dodging is also a valid criticism, but he didn’t run on his military record, so it’s a separate issue.

Walz made a commitment to serve, knowing he might face combat. Retiring when faced with that possibility and the exaggerations about his service for political gain complicate things. His criticism is about both his decision to leave and the misleading claims about his service.

While Trump’s draft dodging is a separate known issue, Walz’s situation involves new public awareness to his retirement controversy and his misleading military experience statements. Each deserves its own attention, but understanding both helps explain why Walz is facing current criticism.

Served 24 years. Put in for his retirement in Feb 2005 BEFORE they were to POSSIBLY be deployed in "mid to late" 2006.

Spent his adult life as a Teacher, in the Armed forces.

*Said something about the guns he "carried in combat," which is not accurate, misleading or call it an outright lie if you want rather than misspeaking.

It still absolutely pales in comparison to the lies told by Trump and Vance. 

 

Vance HAD it right when he said Trump was unfit for office, he was noxious and he was America's Hitler....

 

But hey, you never know how they're going to Govern, right? Except we do. One lost an election and then tried to overthrow the peaceful transfer of power by attempting to strongarm the Georgia Sec of State, Gov and Court System, after REFUSING to concede(for the people who compare it to Hillary, she conceded the night of the election...or maybe it was past midnight so technically the next morning, but in that ~12 hour period. 

Trump still hasn't.

 

And then there's...Project 2025.

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Also, one more thing.

Does anyone find it strange that Trump appointed the Federal Prosecutor- the one who came in at the last minute after they had an air-tight case against Epstein, gave him the deal of the century and THEN in a TOTALLY unprecedented move, gave all co-conspirators, KNOWN AND UNKNOWN blanket immunity...THAT'S the guy Trump tried to make labor Secretary?

 

For all the consternation about Epstein, nobody thinks that's weird. That, the fact that Trump flew 7 times on Epstein plan BEFORE HE BOUGHT IT?

He BOUGHT the famous Epstein plane and THAT is the plane he's now flying around in...and nobody thinks ANYTHING of that? 

Posted (edited)
9 hours ago, scourge165 said:

I like presidents who weren't nearly assassinated.

LOL...seriously, save the moral outrage for the guy who called those who did serve "losers and suckers," while asking, "what's in it for them."

That tells you everything you need to know about Trump. He looks at the service and says, "what's it in for them." If it's nothing, he's out. He's only looking to serve if there's something in it for him...

But hey, don't worry. If Trump wins, you won't have to worry about voting in '28. "You won't have to ever vote again."

Would you please think critically about what the media is telling you?

"You won't have to ever vote again" regurgitates media misinformation.  You can watch and listen to the video to understand the context.

"Losers and suckers" What bias does the original article author have and why did he use an anonymous source?  Later John Kelly supported the article.  What is his bias?  What is his reputation for mischaracterization and lies?  How many and which people have vouched that Trump did not say this?  What is their bias?  General speaking, does "losers and suckers" seem like something anyone would say, even the draft dodging Trump?  How is this matched against positive and negative support Trump has shown the military?

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Posted
12 hours ago, scourge165 said:

Also, one more thing.

Does anyone find it strange that Trump appointed the Federal Prosecutor- the one who came in at the last minute after they had an air-tight case against Epstein, gave him the deal of the century and THEN in a TOTALLY unprecedented move, gave all co-conspirators, KNOWN AND UNKNOWN blanket immunity...THAT'S the guy Trump tried to make labor Secretary?

 

For all the consternation about Epstein, nobody thinks that's weird. That, the fact that Trump flew 7 times on Epstein plan BEFORE HE BOUGHT IT?

He BOUGHT the famous Epstein plane and THAT is the plane he's now flying around in...and nobody thinks ANYTHING of that? 

what i think is weird is epstein is dead and no one has investigated the clintons

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Posted

No one says Walz was wrong to serve his country.   His service is admirable.  24 years is a long time. 

Walz was wrong to say he retired at a rank he did not retire at.   Walz is wrong when he said he carried arms in war.   Those two things are what Trump and Vance are critical of.   They  have never said Walz should not have served or that his service was bad.

mspart

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Posted
17 hours ago, scourge165 said:

I like presidents who weren't nearly assassinated.

LOL...seriously, save the moral outrage for the guy who called those who did serve "losers and suckers," while asking, "what's in it for them."

That tells you everything you need to know about Trump. He looks at the service and says, "what's it in for them." If it's nothing, he's out. He's only looking to serve if there's something in it for him...

 

But hey, don't worry. If Trump wins, you won't have to worry about voting in '28. "You won't have to ever vote again."

So any president that was assassinated or almost assassinated you didn't like...because they were assassinated or almost assassinated??  WTF??  Man...some of you are seriously demented individuals...and/or you are the type of immature idiots that think they can just spew absolute nonsense on the internet just for the pure fact of being a-holes...SMH

This is just as bad as RV saying if he was in Palestine he'd join Humas...wow!

I am really hoping it is only because you guys only know how to "think" and spew things based purely on emotions and don't know how to actually think critically about what you are actually saying.

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