Reclassification

[ionel]

6 minutes ago, JimmyBT said:

Has went?   Education huh?  

If only $65B ...

[JimmyBT]

8 hours ago, Le duke said:

That’s always been my thought on it.

Most people who smoke weed are watching funny movies and supporting Frito-Lay corporation. While there is a possibility of someone smoking and driving, it just doesn’t happen all that often. Most of them have a routine, and it doesn’t involve going anywhere, at all.

Alcohol? My next door neighbor was a manager of a large supermarket. Regularly saw drunk people walking in to the liquor store next to his store. People who drove there.


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Frito Lay was pretty smart when they created “Munchies” huh? 

Edited May 2 by JimmyBT

[JimmyBT]

6 hours ago, braves121 said:

This is personal  and financial accountability. The right is very big on that. No one is forcing people to buy lottery tickets. 

When it suits your narrative.  

[WrestlingRasta]

1 hour ago, JimmyBT said:

Has went?   Education huh?  

Yes. 

“has” a verb. 3rd person from of “have”

“Went to”  a phrase that also acs as a verb. the past tense for “go to” (which would be present tense) 

You may be a little confused by the fact that we live in a very big country with people coming from all kinds of different backgrounds. And therefore phrases in one part of the country may differ from other parts. It’s easy for me to understand your confusion, as I realize the world doesn’t operate in the very narrow margin that is your view of things. But typically, with a little bit of intellect, it’s not that hard to figure out. 
 

But the bigger question is, why do you keep following me around, quoting the same post multiple times, regularly. Have you talked to your special friend about this…episode? 

[WrestlingRasta]

10 hours ago, Le duke said:

That’s always been my thought on it.

Most people who smoke weed are watching funny movies and supporting Frito-Lay corporation. While there is a possibility of someone smoking and driving, it just doesn’t happen all that often. Most of them have a routine, and it doesn’t involve going anywhere, at all.

Alcohol? My next door neighbor was a manager of a large supermarket. Regularly saw drunk people walking in to the liquor store next to his store. People who drove there.


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You could have included, just before “most people”, ‘I don’t really have a clue what I’m talking about, but…’

 

[ionel]

https://www.sfgate.com/cannabis/article/medmen-bankruptcy-19429105.php

[Lipdrag]

14 hours ago, WrestlingRasta said:

64 billion dollars in lottery money has went to education.

Yet our test scores relative to the world continue to freefall.

[WrestlingRasta]

3 hours ago, Lipdrag said:

Yet our test scores relative to the world continue to freefall.

Completely different conversation than “lottery money isn’t going to education” 

 

[JimmyBT]

10 hours ago, WrestlingRasta said:

Yes. 

“has” a verb. 3rd person from of “have”

“Went to”  a phrase that also acs as a verb. the past tense for “go to” (which would be present tense) 

You may be a little confused by the fact that we live in a very big country with people coming from all kinds of different backgrounds. And therefore phrases in one part of the country may differ from other parts. It’s easy for me to understand your confusion, as I realize the world doesn’t operate in the very narrow margin that is your view of things. But typically, with a little bit of intellect, it’s not that hard to figure out. 
 

But the bigger question is, why do you keep following me around, quoting the same post multiple times, regularly. Have you talked to your special friend about this…episode? 

I’m not confused about anything including the English language. Phrases because you live somewhere doesn’t make it correct but hey you run with it.  And I’m not a crying coward like you are. My special friend is old enough bahahhaahhahahahha. 

Edited May 2 by JimmyBT

[Threadkilla]

6 hours ago, Lipdrag said:

Yet our test scores relative to the world continue to freefall.

The rest of the world teach math while the west teaches Identity politics and CRT.  It's about policy not funding.

[Le duke]

28 minutes ago, Threadkilla said:

The rest of the world teach math while the west teaches Identity politics and CRT.  It's about policy not funding.

We teach math, too.

Problem is, a lot of countries have caught up and in some cases, surpassed us. Many countries outspend us relative to their cost of living, their educators are paid much better and held in much higher regard, and their schools (K-12 equivalents, universities, trade schools) are funded at a much, much higher level. Most of the best performing countries spend more than we do, and shockingly, this corresponds to better results. 

Additionally, while the literacy rate in the US has more or less remained the same, the literacy rates in many developing countries has exploded. Japan and Korea, for example, have eliminated their gender parity in literacy, and gone from feudal states to highly advanced countries. We have lower literacy scores than Australia, Canada and Japan, are on roughly equal footing to the UK, and better than Italy, France, and Poland. Most of the countries with functioning governments realized a long time ago that a literate society means a prosperous society. 

Edited May 2 by Le duke

[Bigbrog]

Country	Primary School Teacher Starting (USD)	Primary School Teacher Top Of Scale (USD)	Lower Secondary School Teacher Starting (USD)	Lower Secondary School Teacher Top Of Scale (USD)	Upper Secondary School Teacher Starting (USD)	Upper Secondary School Teacher Top Of Scale (USD)
Luxembourg	$71,812	$126,868	$81,387	$141,470	$81,387	$141,470
Germany	$69,599	$90,970	$77,358	$100,962	$80,911	$110,050
Switzerland	$60,948	$92,671	$67,837	$103,952	$76,393	$117,580
South Africa	$57,893	-	$57,893	-	$57,893	-
Denmark	$54,130	$62,301	$54,405	$62,901	$50,653	$65,827
Saudi Arabia	$49,942	-	$49,942	-	$54,546	-
Austria	$47,995	$83,892	$47,853	$89,610	$47,914	$95,230
Australia	$46,988	$74,335	$46,987	$74,454	$46,987	$74,454
Netherlands	$45,594	$85,360	$48,336	$98,654	$48,336	$98,654
Spain	$43,684	$62,368	$48,796	$69,499	$48,796	$69,499
Sweden	$42,727	$56,757	$44,003	$58,287	$44,258	$59,053
United States	$42,723	$74,214	$43,466	$77,596	$43,438	$76,055

[Bigbrog]

Country	PISA 2022 Overall Score	PISA Math 2022	PISA Science 2022	PISA Reading 2022	Overall 2018
Singapore	1679	575	561	543	1,669
China	1605	552	543	510	1,736
Japan	1599	536	547	516	1,560
Taiwan	1599	547	537	515
South Korea	1570	527	528	515	1,559
Hong Kong	1560	540	520	500
Estonia	1547	510	526	511	1,579
Canada	1519	497	515	507	1,550
Ireland	1512	492	504	516	1,514
Switzerland	1494	508	503	483	1,494
Australia	1492	487	507	498	1,497
Finland	1485	484	511	490	1,549
New Zealand	1484	479	504	501	1,508
United Kingdom	1483	489	500	494	1,511
Poland	1477	489	499	489	1,539
Czech Republic	1474	487	498	489	1,486
Denmark	1472	489	494	489	1,503
United States	1468	465	499	504	1,485
Sweden	1463	482	494	487

[Bigbrog]

Interesting that Luxembourg didn't make the list on top scores and Singapore didn't make the list on highest paying teaching jobs.

[Threadkilla]

4 minutes ago, Bigbrog said:

Country	PISA 2022 Overall Score	PISA Math 2022	PISA Science 2022	PISA Reading 2022	Overall 2018
Singapore	1679	575	561	543	1,669
China	1605	552	543	510	1,736
Japan	1599	536	547	516	1,560
Taiwan	1599	547	537	515
South Korea	1570	527	528	515	1,559
Hong Kong	1560	540	520	500
Estonia	1547	510	526	511	1,579
Canada	1519	497	515	507	1,550
Ireland	1512	492	504	516	1,514
Switzerland	1494	508	503	483	1,494
Australia	1492	487	507	498	1,497
Finland	1485	484	511	490	1,549
New Zealand	1484	479	504	501	1,508
United Kingdom	1483	489	500	494	1,511
Poland	1477	489	499	489	1,539
Czech Republic	1474	487	498	489	1,486
Denmark	1472	489	494	489	1,503
United States	1468	465	499	504	1,485
Sweden	1463	482	494	487

 

Go to any of those countries with the exception of the US, Canada, UK and Australia and ask how many Genders there are.   Like I said its about policy, not funding.  

 

[JimmyBT]

The entire education process is broken and has been for decades now. The learning environment is the problem. Kids can’t effectively learn and teachers can’t effectively teach anymore.  Teachers have little control over a classroom and the kids know it. It takes but a couple kids to negatively impact the rest from getting the teaching need. Kids don’t feel safe, teachers don’t feel safe and principals hands are tied on what they ca do.  Until this changes scores won’t improve. 

[Le duke]

22 minutes ago, JimmyBT said:

The entire education process is broken and has been for decades now. The learning environment is the problem. Kids can’t effectively learn and teachers can’t effectively teach anymore.  Teachers have little control over a classroom and the kids know it. It takes but a couple kids to negatively impact the rest from getting the teaching need. Kids don’t feel safe, teachers don’t feel safe and principals hands are tied on what they ca do.  Until this changes scores won’t improve. 

One additional thing:

Parental involvement. Parents who are interested and invested in their children, and their educational outcomes (in a good way; not the parents who are worried about their kids' volunteer hours at the age of 9 so they can get into Stanford) generally have kids who function at a higher level. Had lunch with my coworker and his wife recently. She's an elementary school teacher (2nd grade, I think) and the kids whose parents just turn on cartoons or hand them video games are the ones who ruin it for everyone. They can't concentrate, they are way behind and they require extra attention. Their parents don't read to them, and they don't get practice reading, and it shows.

Edited May 2 by Le duke

[JimmyBT]

3 minutes ago, Le duke said:

One additional thing:

Parental involvement. Parents who are interested and invested in their children, and their educational outcomes (in a good way; not the parents who are worried about their kids' volunteer hours at the age of 9 so they can get into Stanford) generally have kids who function at a higher level. Had lunch with my coworker and his wife recently. She's an elementary school teacher (2nd grade, I think) and the kids whose parents just turn on cartoons or hand them video games are the ones who ruin it for everyone. They can't concentrate, they are way behind and they require extra attention. Their parents don't read to them, and they don't get practice reading, and it shows.

Agree .  Along with that there’s a noticeable difference in two parent households versus single parents. The ability to do all those things you referenced to support the kids is cut in half.  

[Danny Deck]

7 minutes ago, Le duke said:

One additional thing:

Parental involvement. Parents who are interested and invested in their children, and their educational outcomes (in a good way; not the parents who are worried about their kids' volunteer hours at the age of 9 so they can get into Stanford) generally have kids who function at a higher level. Had lunch with my coworker and his wife recently. She's an elementary school teacher (2nd grade, I think) and the kids whose parents just turn on cartoons or hand them video games are the ones who ruin it for everyone. They can't concentrate, they are way behind and they require extra attention. Their parents don't read to them, and they don't get practice reading, and it shows.

I have friends who have, for now, temporary custody of their 7 year old nephew. It has been really impressive how much he has been able to improve from a stable home environment and caregivers who do what they can do help him thrive. And that has been in this school year basically since things started at Labor day.

[mspart]

I heard on the TV the other day that pot in the 70's was 1.5% THC.   Today's pot is anywhere from 30-90% THC.   That is not the same pot that everyone thinks about and is why there are problems today for those abusing the stuff, moreso than in the past.  

mspart

[WrestlingRasta]

1 hour ago, mspart said:

I heard on the TV the other day that pot in the 70's was 1.5% THC.   Today's pot is anywhere from 30-90% THC.   That is not the same pot that everyone thinks about and is why there are problems today for those abusing the stuff, moreso than in the past.  

mspart

Where are you seeing 90% thc?  I see in the 30's pretty regular, but not higher than that.  (I'm speaking the

There are some in the 30's but it is far from the majority of what is available.  Just like I'm sure in the 70's you could get some real dirt week (1.5), but that was not at all the norm.    The pot is definitely better now, not just in potency but also under the scrutiny by which it is produced, but stating that range is the extreme, not the norm.   Lastly, you said there are more problems today than in the past?  Care to elaborate?  I would argue with the access and the scrutiny of which it is produced and distributed, it has addressed a whole lot of problems, problems that people could not address as well in the past.

[mspart]

Like I said, I heard it on TV so take that for what it is worth.

As for problems see https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6312155/

https://fortune.com/well/2024/02/05/does-marijuana-cannabis-pot-thc-use-help-or-hurt-anxiety/

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0306460323001351

These are easy to find with a simple google search.

mspart

[WrestlingRasta]

7 minutes ago, mspart said:

Like I said, I heard it on TV so take that for what it is worth.

As for problems see https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6312155/

https://fortune.com/well/2024/02/05/does-marijuana-cannabis-pot-thc-use-help-or-hurt-anxiety/

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0306460323001351

These are easy to find with a simple google search.

mspart

Thank you I appreciate the articles. The first one focused on use in adolescents, for which it is not and will not be legal for. This is definitely an issue, but a separate issue. 
 

The second article clearly states the opinions of experts are mixed.  
 

And the third article concluded with the higher potency there is a “slight” risk of dependency, there was weak evidence that it attributed to depression and anxiety, and no association between higher potency and a psychosis like condition.  Just quoting the article.  

Interesring that none of the three articles speak to any of the proven benefits, drastically less side affects and addictions risks compared to many of the other medicines that are regularly prescribed, or quote any of the 1000’s of the doctors who tell their more severe patients that cannabis is the best thing they can do for themselves.  
 

I am well aware a quick Google search will lead to plenty of information. I have spent a whoooooole lot of time reading up on the subject. Which is why with all the information that is available I was interested in how you came to your opinion.  Thanks again.