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On 10/18/2024 at 4:56 PM, Scouts Honor said:

 

Wow!!    Vote fraud is not a thing, nothing to see here.   This is just incredible if true. 

mspart

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Posted

Anecdotes. Wingers are the kings of anecdotal evidence. Still zero evidence of anything widespread or systematic in favor of a particular side. Court rulings have made this very clear. 

Keep drinking Fat Donny's Kool Aid though. 

Posted
1 minute ago, red viking said:

Anecdotes. Wingers are the kings of anecdotal evidence. Still zero evidence of anything widespread or systematic in favor of a particular side. Court rulings have made this very clear. 

Keep drinking Fat Donny's Kool Aid though. 

Why do you hate the left wingers so much.  

2BPE 11/17/24 SMC

Posted
56 minutes ago, red viking said:

Anecdotes. Wingers are the kings of anecdotal evidence. Still zero evidence of anything widespread or systematic in favor of a particular side. Court rulings have made this very clear. 

Keep drinking Fat Donny's Kool Aid though. 

Who cares if it is favored to a political side or not...everyone should be worried about voter fraud!  Sort of weird that you turn it political and blow it off.

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Posted
1 hour ago, Scouts Honor said:

 

"An average of 79 contests per ballot" 

Yeesh. That's too many IMO.

AZ can process and tally mail in votes upon receipt, and in 2020 90% of votes were by mail. Even with the tremendous number of contests it seems like they should be able to get them counted faster than this. They do allow mail in votes to be received through 7 PM on election day. Assuming the vast majority must not arrive until the last few days.  

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47 minutes ago, Danny Deck said:

"An average of 79 contests per ballot" 

Yeesh. That's too many IMO.

AZ can process and tally mail in votes upon receipt, and in 2020 90% of votes were by mail. Even with the tremendous number of contests it seems like they should be able to get them counted faster than this. They do allow mail in votes to be received through 7 PM on election day. Assuming the vast majority must not arrive until the last few days.  

What is interesting to me is how did they come up with that estimate? How do you even know that the majority of AZ voters aren't voting early? If so there is no way it takes that long. It reminds me of the employee that tries to give themselves a week for a job that takes at most a day. 

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17 minutes ago, Danny Deck said:

Here is the article: https://www.12news.com/article/news/politics/elections/decision-2024/maricopa-county-elections-officials-ask-for-patience-ahead-of-general-election-voting/75-153501b3-f721-4f0b-b193-17ed2cdc3e64

It seems they are basing it on ballots received so far vs 2020. But I'm sure this is something you want to under promise and over deliver on. 

I think they are jumping the gun, although an average of 79 contests per ballot seems really high. I am not in AZ but I have friends there. They must have a bunch of amendments. Talk about voter fatigue.

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https://www.ncsl.org/elections-and-campaigns/table-16-when-absentee-mail-ballot-processing-and-counting-can-begin

This table has when states can process and then count mail in votes. 

It seems to me that most of the delays in finalizing the vote count can be remedied by two things:

1. Mail in ballots can be processed upon receipt and tabulating can start when polls open election day (if not earlier).

2. Mail in ballots must be received by when polls close

Mostly electronic voting systems like India uses would also speed things up, but seem like a non-starter in the US these days given the loud contingent that wants exclusively paper balloting.

  • Bob 1
Posted

Your link states:

Fourteen states and Washington, D.C., do not allow counting to begin until the polls close:

Alabama, Alaska, District of Columbia, Idaho, Illinois, Maine, Minnesota, Mississippi, New Hampshire, New Mexico, North Dakota, Rhode Island, South Dakota, Vermont and Washington.

WA is an all mail in ballot state.   Or drop box.   So they could start counting as they come in, but don't.   as a result we don't know the results until at least 2 weeks out. 

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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna177286

If non-citizens can vote shouldn't citizen be able to vote 2 or 3 times, isn't it wrong to purge my extra fake IDs?  If dead relatives of citizen in Chicago can vote then why not my dead relative in Germany.   If non-citizens can vote do they have to be in the US.  Shouldn't a non-citizen in Mexico be allowed to vote.  We allow mail ins so why make them go to all the trouble of crossing the border.  Wasn't Obama a citizen of the world?  We don't need no stinking borders or bounderies.  Everyone is affected by US policy so we should use a democratic process and let any or everyone in the world vote and majority rules. We should not allow such boundaries threaten our Democracy.  Let us be unbound by what has been

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2BPE 11/17/24 SMC

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Apparently, 80% of the electorate want voter ID and citizenship requirements on registering to vote:

https://jonathanturley.org/2024/10/25/gallop-80-percent-of-americans-support-voter-id-and-proof-of-citizenship-laws/.

This week, I wrote about polls that show the public is not buying the apocalyptic predictions of the imminent death of democracy unless Kamala Harris is elected president. Now, a new poll shatters another main talking point of pundits and the press. Democratic candidates, including Vice President Harris, have denounced voter identification laws as “Jim Crow 2.0” attacks on voters. A majority of voters have long supported these laws. According to a new Gallup poll, that majority is now a supermajority.

Despite unrelenting attacks on these laws in the media, eight in ten Americans now support both laws:

With less than two weeks to go in the presidential campaign and voting already underway in many states, 76% of U.S. adults favor the concept of early voting. Two other election law policies are supported by even more Americans — requiring photo identification to vote (84%) and providing proof of citizenship when registering to vote for the first time (83%). …

Majorities of Americans favor a range of election law policies that expand voters’ access to the ballot box, including early voting, automatic voter registration, and sending absentee ballot applications to all eligible voters. They also broadly support measures to limit fraud and ensure election integrity, including requiring photo identification to vote and providing proof of citizenship when first registering to vote.

There are few major political issues today that could show this type of overwhelming support, including from Democrats. Yet, both the Democratic politicians and pundits continue to denounce these laws.  Indeed, the campaign against Georgia resulted in their losing the All-Star Game and its economic benefits. Yet, under these laws, Georgia is setting records in the turnout of voters.

In the meantime, the Biden Administration is continuing to oppose and legally challenge efforts of states like Virginia to remove alleged non-citizens from their voting rolls.

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