Are all the Pro-Palestine, anti Israel protests helping or hurting the Democrats?

[uncle bernard]

6 minutes ago, JimmyBT said:

Yet you’re only protesting the children killed on one side but not the other. Hmmmmmmmmm

You don't need to protest something that everybody agrees with. We all agree what Hamas did on 10/7 was evil. 

[uncle bernard]

1 minute ago, braves121 said:

How do they do that? 

He thinks the civilians can simply "give up" the armed terror group. Because he's stupid.

[JimmyBT]

Just now, uncle bernard said:

You don't need to protest something that everybody agrees with. We all agree what Hamas did on 10/7 was evil. 

That’s what you should be protesting.  The crimes committed on Oct 7th.  The stuff that started all this. 

[JimmyBT]

Just now, uncle bernard said:

He thinks the civilians can simply "give up" the armed terror group. Because he's stupid.

Says the stupid Hamas lover.  It would be pretty easy for them to over run Hamas. I’m pretty sure they could find someone to arm them. Again, IF they wanted to. But they don’t. Because….. they all want Isarael gone. 

[JimmyBT]

On 5/22/2024 at 12:06 PM, uncle bernard said:

backwards thinking will produce the same results it always has. 

Backwards thinking is that the Palestinian people want the Jewish people to stay there.  

[uncle bernard]

10 minutes ago, JimmyBT said:

Says the stupid Hamas lover.  It would be pretty easy for them to over run Hamas. I’m pretty sure they could find someone to arm them. Again, IF they wanted to. But they don’t. Because….. they all want Isarael gone. 

Yes, super easy to overrun the armed militia that's ruled Gaza with an iron fist for nearly 20 years. All while Israel is dropping bombs on them. Super easy.

[JimmyBT]

2 minutes ago, uncle bernard said:

Yes, super easy to overrun the armed militia that's ruled Gaza with an iron fist for nearly 20 years. All while Israel is dropping bombs on them. Super easy.

They’re all hiding in rat tunnels right now.  And half are dead.   THEY DONT WANT TO. 

[braves121]

Just now, JimmyBT said:

They’re all hiding in rat tunnels right now.  And half are dead.   THEY DONT WANT TO. 

If they are all hiding in rat tunnels then why is Israel killing civilians to get them then?

Edited May 23 by braves121

[uncle bernard]

1 minute ago, JimmyBT said:

They’re all hiding in rat tunnels right now.  And half are dead.   THEY DONT WANT TO. 

How could they get to them if they're barricaded in the tunnels?

[JimmyBT]

1 minute ago, uncle bernard said:

How could they get to them if they're barricaded in the tunnels?

Flood them out.  Pretty simple.  They can all get their asses in the tunnels and do something about it.  

Edited May 23 by JimmyBT

[uncle bernard]

Just now, JimmyBT said:

Flood them out.  Pretty simple.  

With what water?

[JimmyBT]

Just now, uncle bernard said:

With what water?

Salt water 

[uncle bernard]

 

Just now, JimmyBT said:

Salt water 

one bucket at a time?

[JimmyBT]

Just now, uncle bernard said:

 

one bucket at a time?

If that’s what it takes.  Too bad they don’t want to do ANYTHING about Hamas. They support what Hamas does. 

[uncle bernard]

Live look at @JimmyBT posting "overthrow the armed military state. it's simple."

[JimmyBT]

Just now, uncle bernard said:

Live look at @JimmyBT posting "overthrow the armed military state. it's simple."

it’s funny how supporters of terrorists don’t want to take out the terrorists. Oh wait 

[JimmyBT]

If you support a terrorist you are a terrorist. 

[JimmyBT]

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/investigations/2024/05/22/gaza-student-protests-american-muslims-for-palestine/73775372007/
 

protestors and Hamas.  If only the protestors knew  

[JimmyBT]

 

[Paul158]

4 hours ago, JimmyBT said:

 

No surprise here.

[JimmyBT]

30 minutes ago, Paul158 said:

No surprise here.

It is to wokesters that think they’re being progressive.  

[uncle bernard]

 

 

"When we struck the refugee camp, we had no idea we would be killing civilians. Tragic mistake!"

 

[JimmyBT]

War is hell. 

[braves121]

So does this mean that the acceptable number of civilians killed in order to try to get a hamas operative is 45?

[mspart]

How many innocent German and Japanese civilians were required before their respective countries acquiesced?

1.1-3.7 million Germans, and 500k to 1 million Japanese is the answer you are looking for.   https://www.nationalww2museum.org/students-teachers/student-resources/research-starters/research-starters-worldwide-deaths-world-war

Was winning WWII more important for us than beating Hamas into submission is for Israel?   

When Hamas crowds themselves with civilians, then you have to expect there will be civilian casualties.   You want zero civilian casualties and that is not how war works.  Period.  

Ghengis Kahn didn't work that way.   Atilla the Hun didn't work that way.   Caesar didn't work that way.   Alexander didn't work that way.   Hamas doesn't work that way.   To get to unconditional surrender with Hamas, you have to blow them all away or get close enough that they unconditionally surrender.   They use civilians as shields.   Some will perish.   War is hell as was previously said.  Hamas has the power to stop this.   But they don't and continue to put innocent or not so innocent civilians in danger as human shields so they can get folks like you to say this is unconscionable.   It is calculated on their part.   Again, they take no responsibility for civilians, that is the job for the UN.  

https://cis.org/Rush/Hamas-Official-Protecting-Civilians-Gaza-UN-Refugee-Agencies-Funded-US

Interviewer: Many people are asking, since you have built 500 km of tunnels, why haven’t you built bomb shelters where civilians can hide during bombardments?

Mousa Abu Marzouk (Hamas Political Bureau): We built the tunnels because we have no other way of protecting ourselves from being targeted and killed. These tunnels are meant to protect us [Hamas members] from the airplanes. We are fighting from inside the tunnels.  As for the Gaza strip, you know and everybody knows that 75% of the people in the Gaza strip are refugees. And refugees are the responsibility of the United Nations to protect them.

I have been saying this and did not make it up.   Hamas takes no responsibility for the safety of the Gazans.   Yet they are the governing entity of Gaza.   Doesn't that strike you as somewhat incongruous?  

Shouldn't your ire be more directed at Hamas than at Israel?   On Oct 7, Hamas counted on Israel retaliating and putting the Gazan people in danger of famine, homelessness, refugee-ism etc.   They counted on that so that people get their undies in a bunch.   That was their calculus.   They are playing these people.   These people are jokes and marionettes to Hamas.   They are pulling the strings and these people parrot the talking points they want them to.   I wonder how feels to be played by Hamas?   Because I can see this from thousands of miles away.   People should be angry at Hamas for putting the Gazans in this position, that's who they should be angry at.  

Is it acceptable for Hamas to put 45 lives in danger to save one Hamas soldier or die with that one Hamas soldier?   That is what your question really should be.

mspart