Jimmy Cinnabon Posted March 23 Posted March 23 Nominees in my mind for OW assuming they win in the finals: #6 Vito #1 Haines #2 Mesenbrink or #3 Carr #9 Starocci #1 Keck #1 Brooks or #2 Hidlay
NormMacDonald Posted March 23 Posted March 23 (edited) This is one of the closest races I can remember. There are good arguments for all of the guys above. I’m going with Storicci for knocking off 2 former champs on his way to win a 4th title with 1 leg. Edited March 23 by NormMacDonald
Jimmy Cinnabon Posted March 23 Author Posted March 23 1 minute ago, JuanMogen said: And if Bartlett gets another pin in the finals? Fair. I really doubt 141 is going to be decided by bonus though.
peanut Posted March 23 Posted March 23 (edited) Vito and Brooks looked most impressive to me, based on vibes. Starocci would’ve been right there if not for his injury. Even so, he took out two former champs back to back. Edited March 23 by peanut
Rassling Posted March 23 Posted March 23 3 minutes ago, NormMacDonald said: This is one of the closest races I can remember. There are good arguments for all of the guys above. I’m going with Storicci for knocking off 2 former champs on his way to win a 4th title with 2 leg. Interesting how little acknowledgment was made for #9 Carter knocking off two former champs. That’s because everyone who’s anyone views Carter as #1 which is how he will end his college wrestling career this evening, number ONE. Carter for OW. 1
Jimmy Cinnabon Posted March 23 Author Posted March 23 1 minute ago, Rassling said: Interesting how little acknowledgment was made for #9 Carter knocking off two former champs. That’s because everyone who’s anyone views Carter as #1 which is how he will end his college wrestling career this evening, number ONE. Carter for OW. I am pretty sure Carter won't get OW. Even though he beat two national champs back to back, as the #9 seed...noone actually views him as the #9. Instead he will be judged as the de facto #1 seed who didn't win many matches in the tourney by bonus. And beating Rocco Welsh, a true freshman, is also not that impressive.
JuanMogen Posted March 23 Posted March 23 Gotta give Levi credit. He won in such commanding, dominating fashion that he got a pin. Not even close.
Tyler Posted March 23 Posted March 23 Gonna be pretty hard not to give Brooks the Hodge. I could see CStar getting the OW
BAC Posted March 23 Posted March 23 19 minutes ago, Rassling said: Interesting how little acknowledgment was made for #9 Carter knocking off two former champs. That’s because everyone who’s anyone views Carter as #1 which is how he will end his college wrestling career this evening, number ONE. Carter for OW. How weird is it that on the ESPN broadcast, they keep talking about how Brooks is going for 4, but they almost *never* mention that Starocci is too? They even keep putting up this graphic about Brooks's quest for 4, but not Carter. So yeah, I'd give OW to Carter if he wins. He's matches have been pretty boring, but he's at 75% at best and still took out 2 former champs. 1
lu_alum Posted March 23 Posted March 23 CStar. Taking down 2 former champs on a bad wheel. All three of the former champs had a bad wheel. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
SocraTease Posted March 23 Posted March 23 To me, it's pretty obvious: Brooks if he wins for both awards. He has bonused everyone this year, except in his first match with Iowa. He has bonused his way through NCAAs. He doesn't have the "blemish" of two "losses" this year that Starocci has. And Starocci hasn't bonused anyone at NCAAs. I don't think sentimentalism for Starocci's injury should play a role.
Antitroll2828 Posted March 23 Posted March 23 15 minutes ago, BAC said: How weird is it that on the ESPN broadcast, they keep talking about how Brooks is going for 4, but they almost *never* mention that Starocci is too? They even keep putting up this graphic about Brooks's quest for 4, but not Carter. So yeah, I'd give OW to Carter if he wins. He's matches have been pretty boring, but he's at 75% at best and still took out 2 former champs. It’s noticeable that they are avoiding interviewing Brooks and Kerk , meanwhile they interviewed yianni every 26 minutes last year in his quest for 4 titles
Wrestleknownothing Posted March 23 Posted March 23 I know one thing. It won't be Brooks. He is too short for OW. Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge
Jimmy Cinnabon Posted March 23 Author Posted March 23 2 minutes ago, SocraTease said: To me, it's pretty obvious: Brooks if he wins for both awards. He has bonused everyone this year, except in his first match with Iowa. He has bonused his way through NCAAs. He doesn't have the "blemish" of two "losses" this year that Starocci has. And Starocci hasn't bonused anyone at NCAAs. I don't think sentimentalism for Starocci's injury should play a role. If he bonuses Hidlay he should get it. Doubt that happens though. Hidlay is so good.
TylerDurden Posted March 23 Posted March 23 OW is interesting. Brooks, Vito, Haines, Mesenbrink, Staocci, Keckeisen, and Davison could all make a case if they win.
peanut Posted March 23 Posted March 23 Here are some top performers so far in terms of individual scoring: 197- Brooks- 23 (tech - fall - fall - tech) 157- Haines- 22 (tech - tech - MD - fall) 184- Keck- 21 (MD - tech - tech- MD) 184- Plott- 20.5 (tech - MD - MD - MD) 141- Bartlett- 20 (dec - fall - fall - dec) 197- Hidlay- 20 (tech - tech- MD - dec) 133- Arujau- 20 (MD - MD - MD - MD) 141- Mendez- 19.5 (tech- fall- dec - dec) 165- Mesenbrink - 19.5 (tech - MD - dec - MD) 1 1
Lleynor Posted March 23 Posted March 23 It's Brooks by a mile for Hodge if he even wins by Decision tonight. OW would be him as well if he bonuses guaranteed. If Mess crushes Carr, which I doubt, he'd get consideration. Vito is right there as well.
Rassling Posted March 23 Posted March 23 11 minutes ago, peanut said: Here are some top performers so far in terms of individual scoring: 197- Brooks- 23 (tech - fall - fall - tech) 157- Haines- 22 (tech - tech - MD - fall) 184- Keck- 21 (MD - tech - tech- MD) 184- Plott- 20.5 (tech - MD - MD - MD) 141- Bartlett- 20 (dec - fall - fall - dec) 197- Hidlay- 20 (tech - tech- MD - dec) 133- Arujau- 20 (MD - MD - MD - MD) 141- Mendez- 19.5 (tech- fall- dec - dec) 165- Mesenbrink - 19.5 (tech - MD - dec - MD) Interesting to see who’s not only winning but dominating their opponents when you lay it out like that. Great job Peanut!
AZ_wrestling Posted March 23 Posted March 23 (edited) Brooks has been ridiculously impressive this tournament. If (big IF) he were to TF/F Hidlay, it would be one of the most impressive tournament performances I’ve seen. Who’s the last wrestler to win every match at NCAAs by fall or TF? I can’t think of anyone recently. Edited March 23 by AZ_wrestling
Pinnacle Posted March 23 Posted March 23 They start at HWT tonite, so they are setting it up for Brooks
Jimmy Cinnabon Posted March 23 Author Posted March 23 Brooks Hidlay is going to be a 3-2 type match (either way)
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