Carlton Haselrig

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1 hour ago, baroud said:

As early as the mid-1980s (before Haselrig's run) there were Div I coach objections to Div II and III participation. Cited at the time were Div II CS Bakersfield's 6 individual titles in 5 years at the Div I NCAAs:

1980 Joe Gonzalez (118) 1
1980 John Azevedo (125) 1
1981 Dan Cuestas (125) 1
1982 Dan Cuestas (125) 1
1983 Adam Cuestas (118) 1
1984 Jesse Reyes (142) 1

Gonzo also lost a classic final vs Gene Mills in '79, and Azevedo made at least one other final, losing to Randy Lewis I think one year. Crazy light weight talent they were cranking out.

[Tripnsweep]

23 hours ago, lu_alum said:

143-2-1.
Any idea as to who was the other loss and the tie?


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I know one of the 143 was Kurt Angle. 

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

2 hours ago, BAC said:

Do you have the details on that?  (Who he wrestled, score, etc?)

I saw him wrestle at the NCAA all-star meet when I was a kid, and couldn't believe how athletic a man that big could be. Moved like a lightweight and just destroyed this guy from Northern Iowa.

I did a web search over a year ago.  I believe I found an old newspaper clipping with the results.

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

4 hours ago, Voice of the Quakers said:

the quality of D2 and D3 wrestling has declined as a result as high-level athletes who preferred to attend D2 or D3 schools for whatever reason (campus size, proximity to home, academic program, etc.) have been "forced" to compete D1. 

Dan Russell for instance, but I'm not sure if he would have gone too far away anyway.  Portland State definitely worked for him.

The decision had to have been made in the late 80s and they grandfathered guys in.  I was d2 during the late 80s and early 90s and saw it happen right in front of me in real time.

[fishbane]

42 minutes ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

I did a web search over a year ago.  I believe I found an old newspaper clipping with the results.

"Erikson defeated Carlton Haselrig, 7-3, and then pinned him in 3:20."

I think this was the finals of the challenge tournament.  Erikson then lost to Baumgartner in the trials final.

https://www.oklahoman.com/story/news/1988/06/18/smith-advances-into-finals/62648595007/

[baroud]

Hey @fishbane, good stuff! Here's some more courtesy of AWN.

The short answer is that Carlton Haselrig took 3rd in the 1988 Olympic Trials at heavyweight (Seoul Olympics).

There was first a Final Olympic FS Qualifier held in March 1988 in Topeka KS to set up the ladder. What is listed:
1. Bruce Baumgartner (NYAC) d. Tom Erikson (Sunkist)  11-2
3. Carlton Haselrig (Foxcatcher) ... it was noted that Haselrig lost 12-3 to Erikson and that Big Bruce had 3 shutouts
4. Matt Ghaffari (Sunkist)
5. Joel Greenlee (Panther)
6. Curtis Riley (Broncho)

Then in Pensecola FL in June the Final Olympic FS Trials were staged. Based on the results it was a 3-man round robin followed by best 2-of-3 knockouts.

Final placements:
1. Baumgartner
2. Erikson
3. Haselrig
4. Ghaffari
5. Greenlee

Ghaffari d. Greenlee 6-5
Ghaffari d. Riley 18-3
Haselrig d. Ghaffari 5-9, 9-3, fall 5:37
Erikson d. Haselrig 7-3, fall 5:30
Baumgartner d. Erikson 10-2, 8-2

On a sad note, while paging through the issue I noticed the report of the Koslowski brothers winning the Greco spots at 220 and Hwt. RIP Duane Koslowski. And also RIP Brother Morris Johnson who took 4th at Hwt at those 1988 Greco Trials.
 

[Ragu]

Anyone know if there exists a list of or some data on non D1 AAs/natty champs? Specifically from ny

[gimpeltf]

Off the top of my head, after they went to numbered divisions, Ken Mallory Mont St 1978 and Tom Martucci Trenton St 1981, Carleton Haselrig  1987-1989

There were several more from the small college division- most notably Clarion early 70s with Barton, Rohn, Schalles and Simpson.

 

AAs would take a bit longer (and wouldn't be from memory)

 

Just noticed the NY part- none of these from NY

Edited March 19 by gimpeltf

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4 minutes ago, gimpeltf said:

Off the top of my head, after they went to numbered divisions, Ken Mallory Mont St 1978 and Tom Martucci Trenton St 1981, Carleton Haselrig  1987-1989

There were several more from the small college division- most notably Clarion early 70s with Barton, Rohn, Schalles and Simpson.

 

AAs would take a bit longer (and wouldn't be from memory)

 

Just noticed the NY part- none of these from NY

and the Cal St Bakersfield guys too, right? Gonzalez, Azevedo, Cuestas bros, Reyes. Re the NY part, guessing all these guys were from California, I know Gonzalez was at least.  

[Wrestleknownothing]

I did this list of wrestlers from other divisions who won the NCAA tournament (now D1) a while back. Not sure it is 100% complete.

The bolded/underlined are wrestlers who also won most outstanding wrestler.

Edited March 19 by Wrestleknownothing

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