blueandgold Posted January 16 Posted January 16 If the NCAA Wrestling Championships were decided in a dual meet format, how would you go about having qualifiers and how would you adjust the individual championships or extend the season?
ionel Posted January 16 Posted January 16 45 minutes ago, D3UC157 said: Cael said no. Stop. Was it Cael or Carl, maybe both? Believe Tommie also said no ddm. 2BPE 11/17/24 SMC
forkemaz Posted January 16 Posted January 16 11 hours ago, D3UC157 said: Cael said no. Stop. I signed in to say this comment is gross. Cael is not the God of college wrestling who rules by word. Maybe if duels mattered penn state would duel interesting teams and not just try to throw soft balls till the end of the year. Duels are better for everyone. They are better for fans because tournaments are chaos for watching your faves, nd they're better for programs because they foster rivalries and loyalty. 1 1
forkemaz Posted January 16 Posted January 16 The season should be based around duels with only a few marquee tournaments. Maybe a winter break tourney. The conferences and championship. If that's too much cut the winter tournament.
gimpeltf Posted January 16 Posted January 16 (edited) Unless you're trolling with the spelling and I missed it- DUALS! Duels- Edited January 16 by gimpeltf 1 1
ionel Posted January 16 Posted January 16 1 hour ago, forkemaz said: Maybe if duels mattered @Interviewed_at_Weehawken says yes! 2 1 2BPE 11/17/24 SMC
juniorvarsity Posted January 16 Posted January 16 I have heard the idea about doing Dual Championship in first semester. I am unsure of this because then what is on the schedule to maintain fan interest in January and February? Teams do not want to do very many tournaments, especially later in the season. I think you do a Dual Championship in the first two weekends of February. There is a two week break, and then conference tournaments. But how do you determine the top 16(it should be 16, so 4 duals to win it all)? It is not super simple.
alex1fly Posted January 16 Posted January 16 4 hours ago, forkemaz said: I signed in to say this comment is gross. Cael is not the God of college wrestling who rules by word. Maybe if duels mattered penn state would duel interesting teams and not just try to throw soft balls till the end of the year. Duels are better for everyone. They are better for fans because tournaments are chaos for watching your faves, nd they're better for programs because they foster rivalries and loyalty. Seconded. He's one guy and a lot of people are involved in these decisions. However I honestly don't know the history of dual championships. Has there been one? If so, when/why did they stop? When discussions about a dual championship occur, who is in favor and who is against it? 1
forkemaz Posted January 16 Posted January 16 3 hours ago, gimpeltf said: Unless you're trolling with the spelling and I missed it- DUALS! Duels- I'm not trolling, the correct spelling is duel. I've posted about this before.
ionel Posted January 16 Posted January 16 34 minutes ago, juniorvarsity said: But how do you determine the top 16(it should be 16, so 4 duals to win it all)? It is not super simple. Figuring out top 16 is pretty easy and just need to be sure it includes the top 4. The problem is when the top team refuses to wrestle. 2BPE 11/17/24 SMC
Ohio Elite Posted January 16 Posted January 16 9 minutes ago, forkemaz said: I'm not trolling, the correct spelling is duel. I've posted about this before. https://www.vocabulary.com/articles/chooseyourwords/dual-duel/ Very interesting but I'm still confused
ionel Posted January 16 Posted January 16 1 minute ago, Ohio Elite said: https://www.vocabulary.com/articles/chooseyourwords/dual-duel/ Very interesting but I'm still confused Pretty sure forke is the confused one. 2BPE 11/17/24 SMC
gimpeltf Posted January 16 Posted January 16 12 minutes ago, forkemaz said: I'm not trolling, the correct spelling is duel. I've posted about this before. The correct spelling for duel is duel. The correct spelling for dual is dual- as in two teams rather than a tri or a quad.
forkemaz Posted January 16 Posted January 16 2 minutes ago, Ohio Elite said: https://www.vocabulary.com/articles/chooseyourwords/dual-duel/ Very interesting but I'm still confused Match and duel are the two terms in wrestling and we use them backwards. You don't go watch a team dual consisting of matches you go watch a match consisting of individual duels.
gimpeltf Posted January 16 Posted January 16 Just now, forkemaz said: Match and duel are the two terms in wrestling and we use them backwards. You don't go watch a team dual consisting of matches you go watch a match consisting of individual duels. So you admit you're wrong- dual refers to the entire meet not each match/bout. 1
forkemaz Posted January 16 Posted January 16 2 minutes ago, ionel said: Pretty sure forke is the confused one. Nope
forkemaz Posted January 16 Posted January 16 Just now, gimpeltf said: So you admit you're wrong- dual refers to the entire meet not each match/bout. Dual is wrong. It's match. Duel us correct though.
gimpeltf Posted January 16 Posted January 16 2 minutes ago, forkemaz said: Dual is wrong. It's match. Duel us correct though. You can't even spell is. And you're the only one thinking this
forkemaz Posted January 16 Posted January 16 4 minutes ago, gimpeltf said: You can't even spell is. And you're the only one thinking this Oh no I'm not proof reading my posts on a wrestling forum and I've been roasted by a close minded man with sass of a middle school girl. Please someone help! Or... it's duel. 1 1
OMW Posted January 16 Posted January 16 2 minutes ago, forkemaz said: Dual is wrong. It's match. Duel us correct though. Dual is not wrong, as it is TWO teams wrestling against each other to determine the outcome of a/the match. I coach and it is listed as Dual Meet on the schedule (as it always has been). Dual tournaments are also included (I haven't seen anything on track or flow as duel meet tournaments, either. Here's an event completed earlier this month: NWCA/USMC Multi-Division National Dual Meet Championships Duel by definition isn't technically incorrect, but it is more-or-less the mouth-breather way of stating Dual Meet.
PortaJohn Posted January 16 Posted January 16 This thread is quite a duel between forke and the board. Quite a dual 1 I Don't Agree With What I Posted
forkemaz Posted January 16 Posted January 16 1 minute ago, OMW said: Dual is not wrong, as it is TWO teams wrestling against each other to determine the outcome of a/the match. I coach and it is listed as Dual Meet on the schedule (as it always has been). Dual tournaments are also included (I haven't seen anything on track or flow as duel meet tournaments, either. Here's an event completed earlier this month: NWCA/USMC Multi-Division National Dual Meet Championships Duel by definition isn't technically incorrect, but it is more-or-less the mouth-breather way of stating Dual Meet. I'm so glad you brought up the term "dual tournament" it barely makes sense. And it literally makes sense for what you would call an "individual tournament" in that tournament its still TWO competitors. Does NCAA even do round Robins? The term dual is dumb and redundant. The term team match is not, the term duel is also more specific. Because "match" doesn't specify the number of competitors which was just so important to you with the last definition.
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