1032004 Posted January 3 Posted January 3 Looking at the finals: 125: Ayala/Volk or Poulin/Provo: wash 133: Teske/Van Dee or Phipps/Serrano: wash 141: Woods/McNeil or Fongaro/Miranda: Salute 149: Rathjen/Ferrari or Rooks/Bond: Scuffle 157: Franek/Swensen or Zerban/Cardenas: wash 165: Caliendo/Kennedy or Mulvaney/Filipowicz: Salute 174: Arnold/Wolak or Pasiuk/Washington: wash 184: Salazar/McEnelly or Anderson/Pine: Salute 197: Glazier/Ferrari or Buchanan/Haas: wash 285: Tabor/Rasmussen or Heindselman/Crosby: wash IMO, most of the weights were about a wash, and I’d give 3 weights to the Soldier Salute and only 1 to the Scuffle. Yes, most of the top guys at the Salute were from Iowa (or hoping to go to Iowa), but seems like they at least added a little tougher competition this year (combined with the Scuffle probably getting worse).
MadMardigain Posted January 3 Posted January 3 I get most coaches seems to be is looking for the smooth ride to the most finalists but 3 events (Midland included) over a weeks time is overkill and makes all the event hold little useful value. I can handle two but the addition of a third has made this time of year pretty meaningless. 2
flyingcement Posted January 3 Posted January 3 Salute had a stronger set of wrestlers in my opinion and not particularly close 2
1032004 Posted January 3 Author Posted January 3 1 minute ago, MadMardigain said: I get most coaches seems to be is looking for the smooth ride to the most finalists but 3 events (Midland included) over a weeks time is overkill and makes all the event hold little useful value. I can handle two but the addition of a third has made this time of year pretty meaningless. Yup. Plus PSU having historically gone to the Scuffle in the past and now not going to any 1
gimpeltf Posted January 3 Posted January 3 1 minute ago, flyingcement said: Salute had a stronger set of wrestlers in my opinion and not particularly close 1 3
Hillbilly Jim Posted January 3 Posted January 3 17 minutes ago, 1032004 said: Looking at the finals: 125: Ayala/Volk or Poulin/Provo: wash 133: Teske/Van Dee or Phipps/Serrano: wash 141: Woods/McNeil or Fongaro/Miranda: Salute 149: Rathjen/Ferrari or Rooks/Bond: Scuffle Rathjen/Ferrari > Rooks/Bond 1
1032004 Posted January 3 Author Posted January 3 3 minutes ago, Hillbilly Jim said: Rathjen/Ferrari > Rooks/Bond Meh, I could probably be convinced to call that a wash as well but I don’t think I’d go that far. Rooks finished R12 last year.
CHROMEBIRD Posted January 3 Posted January 3 It was a little strange that Army participated in the Scuffle instead of the Soldier Salute.
flyingcement Posted January 3 Posted January 3 1 minute ago, CHROMEBIRD said: It was a little strange that Army participated in the Scuffle instead of the Soldier Salute. Maybe they believed it was in poor character to salute themselves 1 1
ionel Posted January 3 Posted January 3 2 minutes ago, flyingcement said: Maybe they believed it was in poor character to salute themselves Or Army intelligence got wind of the Focus salute and didn't want to be within 600 miles of that. 1 .
CHROMEBIRD Posted January 3 Posted January 3 2 minutes ago, ionel said: Or Army intelligence got wind of the Focus salute and didn't want to be within 600 miles of that. Good point, the F Troop was there 1
crzyctldy Posted January 4 Posted January 4 I'd consider it mostly a wash this year. I will say that the coverage, announcing, and view-ability goes hands down to the Scuffle. I disliked the Salute having 4 mats going for the semi-finals for the men and that they didn't have any commentating on the streams for any of the rounds, including the finals. I attended the Scuffle and do believe they put on a superior experience for the attending and online viewing fans. 1
Hammerlock3 Posted January 4 Posted January 4 yes. first time in years i haven't watched the scuffle finals. "Half measures are a coward's form of insanity."
1032004 Posted January 4 Author Posted January 4 12 hours ago, JimmyBT said: Franek/Swenson > Zerban/Cardenas Franek #2, Zerban Cardenas 6 & 7, Swensen 16-17, I’d say that’s about a wash
JimmyBT Posted January 4 Posted January 4 (edited) 5 minutes ago, 1032004 said: Franek #2, Zerban Cardenas 6 & 7, Swensen 16-17, I’d say that’s about a wash Franek was an AA last year. Franek 4-0 vs Zerban last year. Swenson 1-0 vs Zerban last year. Edited January 4 by JimmyBT
Elevator Posted January 4 Posted January 4 All the events were competitive and ok that maybe less of grind as prior years - perhaps less injuries with smaller fields? Better than the pandemic in any event.
Show_Me Posted January 29 Posted January 29 On 1/2/2024 at 9:26 PM, flyingcement said: Salute had a stronger set of wrestlers in my opinion and not particularly close Agree. Soldier Salute was a deeper Tournament than the Southern Scuffle. The # of participating Top 20 ranked wrestlers (per Intermat @ time of Tourney) : CKLV : 92 Midlands : 35 Soldier Salute : 20 Southern Scuffle : 14 Scuffle numbers were down by roughly half as compared to last season, Midlands were about the same, & CKLV was considerably higher. I do not have numbers for last seasons Soldier Salute. CKLV is now clearly the best "In Season" Tournament as it had more Top 20 Ranked wrestlers (92) than Midlands, Soldier Salute, & Southern Scuffle COMBINED (69). 1
Calli Gilchrist Choate Rosemary Hall, Connecticut Class of 2025 Committed to Brown (Women) Projected Weight: 124
Eren Sement Council Rock North, Pennsylvania Class of 2025 Committed to Michigan Projected Weight: 141
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