WrestlingRasta Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 6 episode documentary on Hulu. Very much worth the watch. Very interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Elite Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 I'll have to check it out, thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mspart Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 WR - What is interesting about this? Just one or two examples would be much appreciated. mspart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrestlingRasta Posted November 16, 2023 Author Share Posted November 16, 2023 1 hour ago, mspart said: WR - What is interesting about this? Just one or two examples would be much appreciated. mspart The two most interesting things to me were how he was able to manipulate the German people in his rise to power, the tactics he used and such; and also how he was able to manipulate the world in the escalation of The War. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mspart Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 OK, I get that. How did he convince so many of the righteousness of his cause when any outsider could look inside and know immediately something was seriously wrong? How did he find equally evil men like Himmler and Goebbels etc to do this evil work? My wife read a book on this and many of the German people were like he's a kook but he can't get his kooky ideas done because we are a good society and we have means to thwart him. But he changed the calculus and the courts etc and then there was nowhere to turn to. The courts ruled in favor of the Nazis consistently, which many Germans didn't think could happen. They became a full on dictatorship seemingly overnight. It wasn't but it was sneaky so it felt like it. mspart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrestlingRasta Posted November 17, 2023 Author Share Posted November 17, 2023 22 minutes ago, mspart said: OK, I get that. How did he convince so many of the righteousness of his cause when any outsider could look inside and know immediately something was seriously wrong? How did he find equally evil men like Himmler and Goebbels etc to do this evil work? My wife read a book on this and many of the German people were like he's a kook but he can't get his kooky ideas done because we are a good society and we have means to thwart him. But he changed the calculus and the courts etc and then there was nowhere to turn to. The courts ruled in favor of the Nazis consistently, which many Germans didn't think could happen. They became a full on dictatorship seemingly overnight. It wasn't but it was sneaky so it felt like it. mspart Divide and conquer…..get people to believe in who’s to hate for their problems. And at the time he was getting started, Germany was having real problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plasmodium Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 36 minutes ago, mspart said: OK, I get that. How did he convince so many of the righteousness of his cause when any outsider could look inside and know immediately something was seriously wrong? How did he find equally evil men like Himmler and Goebbels etc to do this evil work? My wife read a book on this and many of the German people were like he's a kook but he can't get his kooky ideas done because we are a good society and we have means to thwart him. But he changed the calculus and the courts etc and then there was nowhere to turn to. The courts ruled in favor of the Nazis consistently, which many Germans didn't think could happen. They became a full on dictatorship seemingly overnight. It wasn't but it was sneaky so it felt like it. mspart Wow is this familiar or what? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul158 Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 1 hour ago, mspart said: OK, I get that. How did he convince so many of the righteousness of his cause when any outsider could look inside and know immediately something was seriously wrong? How did he find equally evil men like Himmler and Goebbels etc to do this evil work? My wife read a book on this and many of the German people were like he's a kook but he can't get his kooky ideas done because we are a good society and we have means to thwart him. But he changed the calculus and the courts etc and then there was nowhere to turn to. The courts ruled in favor of the Nazis consistently, which many Germans didn't think could happen. They became a full on dictatorship seemingly overnight. It wasn't but it was sneaky so it felt like it. mspart Then in !936 the whole world was invited to the Olympic games. They hid all the signs that Jewish people were getting horribly treated and that Hitler was a Psycho Narcissist .They rolled out the red carpet to all the World to see how wonderful Germany was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul158 Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Plasmodium said: Wow is this familiar or what? Yes the Biden administration is doing the same thing now. They even want to take are rights away, control are speech and take away firearms. It seems eerily very familiar. Only one person arrested last night during the violent demonstrations ( by democrats)at the DNC headquarters. Police were assaulted and injured. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neutral Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 Jan 06 very much had a Beer Hall Putsch feel to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrestlingRasta Posted November 17, 2023 Author Share Posted November 17, 2023 My wife, after watching a few episodes, commented on how she picked up a few things that are very similar to what we are seeing now. I’ll let y’all argue over ‘which side’ is responsible for that. One thing for sure, and you can simply see it running through these threads here, is that stoking paranoia is definitely a similarity between then and now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jross Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 The division is high enough for leaders to attempt this from the right or left side. Ideally, civilian sanity exists to stop it. Looking only at the risk from one angle, which side has acted more violence for their cause(s)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plasmodium Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 The side that attempted to use force in order to seize control of the government. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jross Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 Okay now compare to the violence from the other side and use data to tell me which is higher. 36 minutes ago, Plasmodium said: The side that attempted to use force in order to seize control of the government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jross Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 Property Damage BLM: $2 Billion J6: $3 Million Arrest counts BLM: 17,000 J6: 1,100 Violent Deaths BLM: 19 J6: 1 Protests with violence BLM: 570 J6: 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrestlingRasta Posted November 17, 2023 Author Share Posted November 17, 2023 Maybe the answer to this violent division we are experiencing lies within some answers and actions that don't require us to divide and blame?? Instead of finding ways in which we can categorize which side is 'worse', we can start at the basics of both 'sides' have fault and responsibility.....and work from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jross Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 Change the leader, change the culture. If you haven't heard, I'm your huckleberry. #PeopleFirst #AmericaFirst Seriously, vote for the candidate who wants to drain the swamp (of the establishment) and focus on what 80% of the people want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrestlingRasta Posted November 17, 2023 Author Share Posted November 17, 2023 24 minutes ago, jross said: Seriously, vote for the candidate who wants to drain the swamp (of the establishment) and focus on what 80% of the people want. Agreed, and I anxiously await that leader to come forward.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul158 Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, WrestlingRasta said: Agreed, and I anxiously await that leader to come forward.. Maybe Bob Dole or Wrestleknownothing. Who should be the vice president , Maybe Wrestlingrasta Edited November 17, 2023 by Paul158 missed a word Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jross Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 Who is populist and anti-establishment? Vivek, Trump, Stein, Kennedy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle bernard Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 The comparison between people protesting because the police kill an insane amount of people (and black people are way overrepresented in those numbers) and a mob who tried to storm the government to overturn the result of a democratic election is....INSANE lmao. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul158 Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 7 minutes ago, jross said: Who is populist and anti-establishment? Vivek, Trump, Stein, Kennedy? Vivek really needs to be a senator or Governor first. Running a small company where you may have a lot of control and input is quite a bit different then going to the swamp in Washington DC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul158 Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 (edited) 13 minutes ago, uncle bernard said: The comparison between people protesting because the police kill an insane amount of people (and black people are way overrepresented in those numbers) and a mob who tried to storm the government to overturn the result of a democratic election is....INSANE lmao. Would you say there were a few irregularities in that democratic election. Would you say that it is very curious that the most powerful law enforcement department in the world couldn't secure and protect the Capital Building on Jan. 6th. Edited November 17, 2023 by Paul158 missed a word 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle bernard Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 13 minutes ago, Paul158 said: Would you say there were a few irregularities in that democratic election. Would you say that it is very curious that the most powerful law enforcement department in the world couldn't secure and protect the Capital Building on Jan. 6th. no and no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul158 Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 40 minutes ago, uncle bernard said: no and no How do I already know your answer before you replied ? One can only hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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