Let’s call stalling

[Crablegs]

18 hours ago, Scouts Honor said:

curious... havn't seen a rule book in years... what does it say specifically about this ride...

 

and again, ipose the question.. how a hand grasping the ankle a five count. but sitting on the ankle not? 

It is possible to work a turn with the ankle hook.  Holding an ankle with your hands it is not.  End of that silly question.

[AKHUNTER]

5 hours ago, ionel said:

But we also really want consistency.

uh.....we have consistency.........consistently BAD non calls for stalling. "back in the day" stalling was actually called when it occurred. which wasn't all that often because wrestlers knew they would be called.

[Scouts Honor]

On 11/19/2022 at 8:36 AM, Crablegs said:

It is possible to work a turn with the ankle hook.  Holding an ankle with your hands it is not.  End of that silly question.

actually, it is.

but yes, tell me about all the times guys are turning people with the leg hooked... 

yes you must be silly 

[1032004]

On 11/19/2022 at 9:36 AM, Crablegs said:

It is possible to work a turn with the ankle hook.  Holding an ankle with your hands it is not.  End of that silly question.

Grabbing the ankle can be used as a breakdown.

As someone said earlier, the act of sitting on the ankle isn’t necessarily stalling.  It’s staying there and not doing anything with it that is.  I’d be in favor of adding it to the 5 count list, but we probably don’t want to have and excessive amount of those situations

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

58 minutes ago, Scouts Honor said:

actually, it is.

but yes, tell me about all the times guys are turning people with the leg hooked... 

yes you must be silly 

I see tons of 3/4 Nelson's in Penn State matches!

[1032004]

On 11/17/2022 at 7:30 PM, Dark Energy said:

Just watched Iowa’s Bennet clearly and obviously drag Army’s Sanchez OOB while riding on top.  Called action by ref.  B S
 

Bennett drove the action OOB to avoid a potential scoring action. Text book stalling.

CALL IT!

The “action or stall” call is only in neutral.  But I wouldn’t mind guys being hit for stalling on top for just driving guys out of bounds.

[Scouts Honor]

11 minutes ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

I see tons of 3/4 Nelson's in Penn State matches!

i would love to see all the 3/4 nelsons being used in the NCAA tourney by any wrestler

[ionel]

13 minutes ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

I see tons of 3/4 Nelson's in Penn State matches!

And the result is?

[1032004]

IIRC I have seen PSU guys set up a cradle with the ankle ride…just not sure if it was against anyone that good.

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

52 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

IIRC I have seen PSU guys set up a cradle with the ankle ride…just not sure if it was against anyone that good.

Yes, this does work.  It is just that they haven't been doing it much in the last few years.

[Scouts Honor]

which is my point

if they are using it to turn... fine

using it to ride... stall 

[Wrestleknownothing]

Starts with scooping the ankle. And brings me great joy.

[1032004]

14 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

Starts with scooping the ankle. And brings me great joy.

got a video?

[Wrestleknownothing]

21 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

got a video?

That one was a screenshot in an article, but hear is Max Dean scooping Jacob Warner's ankle then reaching back for the bow

 

[Scouts Honor]

yes, if only they worked for that everytime

i do enjoy those

[1032004]

16 hours ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

That one was a screenshot in an article, but hear is Max Dean scooping Jacob Warner's ankle then reaching back for the bow

 

that is not at all similar to the situation we are complaining about, where the top guy sits on the ankle typically with the bottom guy on his hands and knees