Young Voters

[Husker_Du]

Are stupid. Discuss. 

 

 

[jross]

What is there to discuss?  They are stupid.

[jross]

Is there an increase in how long the population stays young and irresponsible?

[mspart]

They are either stupid or don't care which is the same.   But Churchill once reportedly said if a young person isn't a liberal they have no heart, if an older person is not conservative, they have no brain.  Or words to that effect.   

mspart

[Mike Parrish]

Well, with Dobbs, you get more interest in voting.

https://www.npr.org/2022/11/10/1135810302/turnout-among-young-voters-was-the-second-highest-for-a-midterm-in-past-30-years
 

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/3731564-young-women-broke-hard-for-democrats-in-the-midterms/

Women 18-29 went 72% for Democrats.
The GOP won't get those voters back.

Dobbs was clearly in 'dog catches car' territory.

[uncle bernard]

[Ban Basketball]

Looks like the same "stupidity" question could be asked middle-aged people as well (30-44 year olds).

Stated another way, why are half of the voters in America "stupid?"

Q!  Hunter Biden!  Pizzagate!

[jross]

Middle-aged people are increasingly living at home with their parents.

Edited November 16, 2022 by jross

[jross]

The media lies have a substantial influence on young women voting behavior. While most people agree that abortion should be situationally legal, the media would have women believe that the evil Republicans will issue a comprehensive ban.  The lies are so effective that in states like Kansas, where abortion is legal, even Republican women believed they were losing their rights.  When the media generates a shitstorm about tiny percentages, stupid people do what stupid people do.

[Husker_Du]

spot on Jross. i'm really beginning to like you lol.

[Husker_Du]

31 minutes ago, Ban Basketball said:

Looks like the same "stupidity" question could be asked middle-aged people as well (30-44 year olds).

Stated another way, why are half of the voters in America "stupid?"

Q!  Hunter Biden!  Pizzagate!

uh, no, brainiac. you do understand that the above graph shows that 18-29 y/o's effectively swung the midterms. 

[Ban Basketball]

2 hours ago, Husker_Du said:

uh, no, brainiac. you do understand that the above graph shows that 18-29 y/o's effectively swung the midterms. 

Well, you're right.  Why, after all, a majority of 30-44 year olds DIDN'T indeed vote Democrat.

Obamer's a Mozlum!

Obamer's not a citizen!

Vince Foster!

[Husker_Du]

not to that percentage. and you're totally dismissing the trend put forth by others.

it's really funny that the left calls out people for 'stereotyping' and yet they are the most judgmental of all.

here you are painting anyone with a modicum of leftist dissent all kinds of extremists.

clown shit. and zero intellectual integrity. you're cultish. 

[Ban Basketball]

3 minutes ago, Husker_Du said:

not to that percentage. and you're totally dismissing the trend put forth by others.

it's really funny that the left calls out people for 'stereotyping' and yet they are the most judgmental of all.

here you are painting anyone with a modicum of leftist dissent all kinds of extremists.

clown shit. and zero intellectual integrity. you're cultish. 

Maybe not to that percentage, but, oddly enough, it's very close to the same percentage of the two older cohorts who voted Republican.  SO, if indeed the 30-44 year old vote isn't really representing anything significant, as you say, one can only conclude that the other two cohorts who voted Republican are insignificant as well, correct, sir?

RIGGED!

STOP THE STEAL!  

DOMINION VOTING MACHINES!

[Husker_Du]

i'm really sorry for your if your brain can't compute

1) Kamala calling them idiots

2) that same cohort deciding the election for her party every single time

but go ahead and finish your retort with 3 extremist tropes about the right. 

[Mike Parrish]

1 hour ago, Husker_Du said:

i'm really sorry for your if your brain can't compute

1) Kamala calling them idiots

2) that same cohort deciding the election for her party every single time

but go ahead and finish your retort with 3 extremist tropes about the right. 

Who said, "I love the poorly educated!" ?

Trying to say that the Republicans don't pander is a bit disingenuous.

[Crotalus]

On 11/15/2022 at 8:25 AM, Husker_Du said:

Are stupid. Discuss. 

And apparently get dumber with age. 

17 hours ago, jross said:

The media lies have a substantial influence on young women voting behavior. While most people agree that abortion should be situationally legal, the media would have women believe that the evil Republicans will issue a comprehensive ban.  The lies are so effective that in states like Kansas, where abortion is legal, even Republican women believed they were losing their rights.  When the media generates a shitstorm about tiny percentages, stupid people do what stupid people do.

After the overturn of Roe, Kansas held a vote over whether to strip the right to abortion from the state constitution, so that might have something to do with women in the state feeling like their rights were at stake. They voted overwhelmingly to keep that right.

Many states had trigger laws that banned or severely limited access the instant Roe was overturned. And politicians like Lindsey Graham (who should be all about "states rights"), made comments about the need for a nationwide ban. Not hard to see why this would drive people to the polls. No media lies needed. 

[Husker_Du]

14 hours ago, Mike Parrish said:

Who said, "I love the poorly educated!" ?

Trying to say that the Republicans don't pander is a bit disingenuous.

if you could point to where i said that, that would be great

[Mike Parrish]

9 minutes ago, Husker_Du said:

if you could point to where i said that, that would be great

That's not a quote of yours.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-love-poorly-educated/

I was pointing to pandering in general.

Sorry for the confusion.

[jross]

3 hours ago, Crotalus said:

And apparently get dumber with age. 

After the overturn of Roe, Kansas held a vote over whether to strip the right to abortion from the state constitution, so that might have something to do with women in the state feeling like their rights were at stake. They voted overwhelmingly to keep that right.

Many states had trigger laws that banned or severely limited access the instant Roe was overturned. And politicians like Lindsey Graham (who should be all about "states rights"), made comments about the need for a nationwide ban. Not hard to see why this would drive people to the polls. No media lies needed. 

The people in the media, phone texts, and my Facebook community stated the vote was to ban abortion (the lie) when it was about allowing lawmakers in the state to regulate abortion.  

Edited November 16, 2022 by jross

[Crotalus]

1 hour ago, jross said:

The people in the media, phone texts, and my Facebook community stated the vote was to ban abortion (the lie) when it was about allowing lawmakers in the state to regulate abortion.  

"The lies are so effective that in states like Kansas, where abortion is legal, even Republican women believed they were losing their rights."

The amendment would literally strip the constitutional right to abortion access. They would be losing their rights, and then leaving them in the hands of mostly old white men (who would most certainly attempt to pass a law akin to what Texas or Louisiana have). That idea was resoundingly rejected. 

[jross]

1 minute ago, Crotalus said:

"The lies are so effective that in states like Kansas, where abortion is legal, even Republican women believed they were losing their rights."

The amendment would literally strip the constitutional right to abortion access. They would be losing their rights, and then leaving them in the hands of mostly old white men (who would most certainly attempt to pass a law akin to what Texas or Louisiana have). That idea was resoundingly rejected. 

For clarity, women could still get abortions in Kansas regardless of whether the amendment passed or failed.  And that is not what the media told us.
 

[jross]

I cannot comprehend that anyone believes it is a women's right to choose to kill a healthy, viable baby with the dismemberment procedure known as Dilation and Evacuation.  There damn well should be some regulation concerning the nuanced situation where abortion is tolerable. 

[Mike Parrish]

4 minutes ago, jross said:

I cannot comprehend that anyone believes it is a women's right to choose to kill a healthy, viable baby with the dismemberment procedure known as Dilation and Evacuation.  There damn well should be some regulation concerning the nuanced situation where abortion is tolerable. 

What are your thoughts on ectopic pregnancies?

[jross]

7 minutes ago, Mike Parrish said:

What are your thoughts on ectopic pregnancies?

I follow the thinking that the dr performs an ectopic procedure with the goal to save the life of the mother and the unborn.  The unborn normally dies from the procedure and the mother is normally saved.  This is different than an abortion where the intent is to kill the unborn.  Regardless of the intent behind how the unborn dies, it is a woman’s right to choose her immediate physical survival first.