Wrestleknownothing Posted May 4, 2023 Posted May 4, 2023 For wrestlers who started their career after 2013 (the WrestleStat Era) there have been 8 2-timers. In chronological order of when their career ended: Gabe Dean Isaiah Martinez Dean Heil Zahid Valencia Vincenzo Joseph Nick Lee Austin O'Connor Nick Suriano Rank them. Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge
Wrestleknownothing Posted May 4, 2023 Author Posted May 4, 2023 My rank: 1. Valencia 2. Dean 3. Martinez, Joseph, Lee 6. Suriano 7. O'Connor 9. Heil Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge
ionel Posted May 4, 2023 Posted May 4, 2023 On 5/4/2023 at 2:10 PM, Wrestleknownothing said: For wrestlers who started their career after 2013 (the WrestleStat Era) there have been 8 2-timers. In chronological order of when their career ended: Gabe Dean Isaiah Martinez Dean Heil Zahid Valencia Vincenzo Joseph Nick Lee Austin O'Connor Nick Suriano Rank them. Expand No love for Jesse Delgado? He did pretty well til, injured Sr year. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesse_Delgado 1 .
Wrestleknownothing Posted May 4, 2023 Author Posted May 4, 2023 On 5/4/2023 at 2:21 PM, ionel said: No love for Jesse Delgado? He did pretty well til, injured Sr year. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesse_Delgado Expand Not of the WrestleStat Era Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge
ionel Posted May 4, 2023 Posted May 4, 2023 On 5/4/2023 at 2:32 PM, Wrestleknownothing said: Not of the WrestleStat Era Expand 2 years. Is it Jesse's fault WS came to the party late? .
Gus Posted May 4, 2023 Posted May 4, 2023 1. Zahid Valencia 2. Isaiah Martinez 3. Nick Suriano 4. Gabe Dean 5. Vincenzo Joseph 6. Nick Lee 7. Austin O'Connor 8. Dean Heil 1
poorwrestler Posted May 4, 2023 Posted May 4, 2023 1. Gable StevesonSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 4
Wrestleknownothing Posted May 4, 2023 Author Posted May 4, 2023 On 5/4/2023 at 3:17 PM, poorwrestler said: 1. Gable Steveson Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Expand Since he still has a year of eligibility left, I did not include him, even if it seems unlikely he will use it. Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge
RYou Posted May 4, 2023 Posted May 4, 2023 I am trying to understand your limitations. 2x Nolf ? 2x Nickal ? Both missed being 3xers due to the COVID cancellation. 1
Le duke Posted May 4, 2023 Posted May 4, 2023 On 5/4/2023 at 4:24 PM, RYou said: I am trying to understand your limitations. 2x Nolf ? 2x Nickal ? Both missed being 3xers due to the COVID cancellation.What in the world are you talking about?Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1
Wrestleknownothing Posted May 4, 2023 Author Posted May 4, 2023 On 5/4/2023 at 4:24 PM, RYou said: I am trying to understand your limitations. 2x Nolf ? 2x Nickal ? Both missed being 3xers due to the COVID cancellation. Expand They are both 3x ers and graduated before Covid (2019). I believe only Vincenzo Joseph lost a shot at three due to Covid. I included both in the 3xer thread. 1 Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge
KCMO2 Posted May 4, 2023 Posted May 4, 2023 On 5/4/2023 at 3:12 PM, Gus said: 1. Zahid Valencia 2. Isaiah Martinez 3. Nick Suriano 4. Gabe Dean 5. Vincenzo Joseph 6. Nick Lee 7. Austin O'Connor 8. Dean Heil Expand I'm torn on Heil. He was good his freshman year, and then looked almost unbeatable his soph and junior years (64-1), and then took a big step back his senior season (25-7 and no AA). So as a 2xer, for his championship years I agree with the thread, but his total body of work makes it a questionable call. (was he just pulling too much weight senior season, or HEW?)
Tigerfan Posted May 4, 2023 Posted May 4, 2023 Is Imar the only one ever who won his first 2 and then not even one more?
Tigerfan Posted May 4, 2023 Posted May 4, 2023 2xers are so hard to rank because nobody agrees whether peak years, when they occurred, other finishes, or what are important. Kinda like deciding if it was 2 swipes or 3. See what I did there?
ionel Posted May 4, 2023 Posted May 4, 2023 On 5/4/2023 at 9:27 PM, Tigerfan said: Is Imar the only one ever who won his first 2 and then not even one more? Expand Gable .
Tigerfan Posted May 4, 2023 Posted May 4, 2023 Got me. I was obviously think about 2/4, but you found a loophole.
nhs67 Posted May 4, 2023 Posted May 4, 2023 On 5/4/2023 at 7:06 PM, KCMO2 said: I'm torn on Heil. He was good his freshman year, and then looked almost unbeatable his soph and junior years (64-1), and then took a big step back his senior season (25-7 and no AA). So as a 2xer, for his championship years I agree with the thread, but his total body of work makes it a questionable call. (was he just pulling too much weight senior season, or HEW?) Expand He looked the same his Senior year. The rules changed. Had he had to wrestle by the same rules as his Senior season during his two title years he would have been a 0xer. They added danger rule and it absolutely fukced him over. "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me
11986 Posted May 4, 2023 Posted May 4, 2023 On 5/4/2023 at 9:27 PM, Tigerfan said: Is Imar the only one ever who won his first 2 and then not even one more? Expand Back in the 70s Pat Milkovich won twice in a row then was runner-up twice. 1
nhs67 Posted May 4, 2023 Posted May 4, 2023 On 5/4/2023 at 9:58 PM, ionel said: Gable Expand To be fair be was a 67% 2xer and not a 50% or 40% 2xer. "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me
ionel Posted May 4, 2023 Posted May 4, 2023 On 5/4/2023 at 10:24 PM, nhs67 said: To be fair be was a 67% 2xer and not a 50% or 40% 2xer. Expand Hey ... I just answered the question (showing IMar wasn't the only one, I could come up with more), I leave the heavy math lifting to Wkn. .
nhs67 Posted May 4, 2023 Posted May 4, 2023 On 5/4/2023 at 10:30 PM, ionel said: Hey ... I just answered the question (showing IMar wasn't the only one, I could come up with more), I leave the heavy math lifting to Wkn. Expand The guy must feel an irrevocable giant weight on his shoulders. I also leave the heavy maths liftings to Wkn. "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me
Wrestleknownothing Posted May 5, 2023 Author Posted May 5, 2023 On 5/4/2023 at 10:24 PM, nhs67 said: To be fair be was a 67% 2xer and not a 50% or 40% 2xer. Expand He still has a shot at being a 50% 2xer. Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge
nhs67 Posted May 5, 2023 Posted May 5, 2023 On 5/5/2023 at 12:01 AM, Wrestleknownothing said: He still has a shot at being a 50% 2xer. Expand He won't be. If he competes next year he is a 3xer. "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me
ionel Posted May 5, 2023 Posted May 5, 2023 On 5/5/2023 at 12:13 AM, nhs67 said: He won't be. If he competes next year he is a 3xer. Expand Ever heard of Dan Gable or Spencer Lee? .
Wrestleknownothing Posted May 5, 2023 Author Posted May 5, 2023 On 5/5/2023 at 12:13 AM, nhs67 said: He won't be. If he competes next year he is a 3xer. Expand I had similar thoughts about Spencer Lee, Zahid Valencia, and Vincenzo Joseph in their last year. Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge
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