Top 2xer of the WrestleStat Era

[Wrestleknownothing]

For wrestlers who started their career after 2013 (the WrestleStat Era) there have been 8 2-timers.

In chronological order of when their career ended:

Gabe Dean
Isaiah Martinez
Dean Heil
Zahid Valencia
Vincenzo Joseph
Nick Lee
Austin O'Connor
Nick Suriano
 

Rank them.

[Wrestleknownothing]

My rank:

1. Valencia
2. Dean
3. Martinez, Joseph, Lee
6. Suriano
7. O'Connor
9. Heil

[ionel]

9 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

For wrestlers who started their career after 2013 (the WrestleStat Era) there have been 8 2-timers.

In chronological order of when their career ended:

Gabe Dean
Isaiah Martinez
Dean Heil
Zahid Valencia
Vincenzo Joseph
Nick Lee
Austin O'Connor
Nick Suriano
 

Rank them.

No love for Jesse Delgado?  He did pretty well til, injured Sr year.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesse_Delgado

[Wrestleknownothing]

10 minutes ago, ionel said:

No love for Jesse Delgado?  He did pretty well til, injured Sr year.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesse_Delgado

Not of the WrestleStat Era

[ionel]

4 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

Not of the WrestleStat Era

2 years.  Is it Jesse's fault WS came to the party late?  

[Gus]

1. Zahid Valencia

2. Isaiah Martinez

3. Nick Suriano

4. Gabe Dean

5. Vincenzo Joseph

6. Nick Lee

7. Austin O'Connor

8. Dean Heil

[poorwrestler]

1. Gable Steveson


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[Wrestleknownothing]

39 minutes ago, poorwrestler said:

1. Gable Steveson


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Since he still has a year of eligibility left, I did not include him, even if it seems unlikely he will use it.

[RYou]

I am trying to understand your limitations.

2x Nolf ?

2x Nickal ?

Both missed being 3xers due to the COVID cancellation.

[Le duke]

I am trying to understand your limitations.
2x Nolf ?
2x Nickal ?
Both missed being 3xers due to the COVID cancellation.

What in the world are you talking about?


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[Wrestleknownothing]

45 minutes ago, RYou said:

I am trying to understand your limitations.

2x Nolf ?

2x Nickal ?

Both missed being 3xers due to the COVID cancellation.

They are both 3x ers and graduated before Covid (2019). I believe only Vincenzo Joseph lost a shot at three due to Covid.

I included both in the 3xer thread.

[KCMO2]

3 hours ago, Gus said:

1. Zahid Valencia

2. Isaiah Martinez

3. Nick Suriano

4. Gabe Dean

5. Vincenzo Joseph

6. Nick Lee

7. Austin O'Connor

8. Dean Heil

I'm torn on Heil.  He was good his freshman year, and then looked almost unbeatable his soph and junior years (64-1), and then took a big step back his senior season (25-7 and no AA).  So as a 2xer, for his championship years I agree with the thread, but his total body of work makes it a questionable call.  (was he just pulling too much weight senior season, or HEW?)

[Tigerfan]

Is Imar the only one ever who won his first 2 and then not even one more?

[Tigerfan]

2xers are so hard to rank because nobody agrees whether peak years, when they occurred, other finishes, or what are important. Kinda like deciding if it was 2 swipes or 3. See what I did there?

[ionel]

31 minutes ago, Tigerfan said:

Is Imar the only one ever who won his first 2 and then not even one more?

Gable

[Tigerfan]

Got me. I was obviously think about 2/4, but you found a loophole. 

[nhs67]

3 hours ago, KCMO2 said:

I'm torn on Heil.  He was good his freshman year, and then looked almost unbeatable his soph and junior years (64-1), and then took a big step back his senior season (25-7 and no AA).  So as a 2xer, for his championship years I agree with the thread, but his total body of work makes it a questionable call.  (was he just pulling too much weight senior season, or HEW?)

He looked the same his Senior year.  The rules changed.  Had he had to wrestle by the same rules as his Senior season during his two title years he would have been a 0xer.  They added danger rule and it absolutely fukced him over.

[11986]

55 minutes ago, Tigerfan said:

Is Imar the only one ever who won his first 2 and then not even one more?

Back in the 70s Pat Milkovich won twice in a row then was runner-up twice. 

[nhs67]

25 minutes ago, ionel said:

Gable

To be fair be was a 67% 2xer and not a 50% or 40% 2xer.

[ionel]

2 minutes ago, nhs67 said:

To be fair be was a 67% 2xer and not a 50% or 40% 2xer.

Hey ... I just answered the question (showing IMar wasn't the only one, I could come up with more), I leave the heavy math lifting to Wkn.  

[nhs67]

15 minutes ago, ionel said:

Hey ... I just answered the question (showing IMar wasn't the only one, I could come up with more), I leave the heavy math lifting to Wkn.  

The guy must feel an irrevocable giant weight on his shoulders.

I also leave the heavy maths liftings to Wkn.

[Wrestleknownothing]

1 hour ago, nhs67 said:

To be fair be was a 67% 2xer and not a 50% or 40% 2xer.

He still has a shot at being a 50% 2xer. 

[nhs67]

11 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

He still has a shot at being a 50% 2xer. 

He won't be.  If he competes next year he is a 3xer.

[ionel]

1 minute ago, nhs67 said:

He won't be.  If he competes next year he is a 3xer.

Ever heard of Dan Gable or Spencer Lee?

[Wrestleknownothing]

1 minute ago, nhs67 said:

He won't be.  If he competes next year he is a 3xer.

I had similar thoughts about Spencer Lee, Zahid Valencia, and Vincenzo Joseph in their last year.