SunDevil Posted March 22, 2023 Posted March 22, 2023 Wonder who will take one next season? Many of these guys I would imagine also have the Covid year. That’s a lot of years in college. For ASU, I think it’s only Schultz, Figs and Teemer that qualify.
Dogbone Posted March 22, 2023 Posted March 22, 2023 Question on Oly Redshirts.... It is my understand that USA Wrestling (a separate entity than the NCAA) determines the criteria for who is eligible to take an Oly Redshirt. My questions is under what authority can USAW impact the NCAA eligibility rules? And if there was some rule/law passed by the NCAA that deferred that authority to USAW, could USAW have determined that everyone who competed in 2020 season was deemed to have been an Oly Redshirt so that the seniors wouldn't have lost a year of eligibility? Still weird to me that some guys only got to compete in 3 NCAAs and others are getting 5. Heck Daton Fix can probably take another Oly year next year and still be eligible to compete at NCAAs in 2 years at the age of 27.
CHROMEBIRD Posted March 22, 2023 Posted March 22, 2023 The NCAA could pass a bylaw to eliminate ORS if they wanted to. It would just be an incredibly stupid move, one that goes against their mission, and would trigger a sh*tstorm because it would very likely have to apply to other sports as well.
Wrestleknownothing Posted March 22, 2023 Posted March 22, 2023 1 hour ago, Dogbone said: Question on Oly Redshirts.... It is my understand that USA Wrestling (a separate entity than the NCAA) determines the criteria for who is eligible to take an Oly Redshirt. My questions is under what authority can USAW impact the NCAA eligibility rules? And if there was some rule/law passed by the NCAA that deferred that authority to USAW, could USAW have determined that everyone who competed in 2020 season was deemed to have been an Oly Redshirt so that the seniors wouldn't have lost a year of eligibility? Still weird to me that some guys only got to compete in 3 NCAAs and others are getting 5. Heck Daton Fix can probably take another Oly year next year and still be eligible to compete at NCAAs in 2 years at the age of 27. Olympic redshirt standards are specified in NCAA rules. I am not sure to what extent they are coordinated with USAW or if USAW has any input. Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge
Antitroll2828 Posted March 23, 2023 Posted March 23, 2023 3 hours ago, Dogbone said: Question on Oly Redshirts.... It is my understand that USA Wrestling (a separate entity than the NCAA) determines the criteria for who is eligible to take an Oly Redshirt. My questions is under what authority can USAW impact the NCAA eligibility rules? And if there was some rule/law passed by the NCAA that deferred that authority to USAW, could USAW have determined that everyone who competed in 2020 season was deemed to have been an Oly Redshirt so that the seniors wouldn't have lost a year of eligibility? Still weird to me that some guys only got to compete in 3 NCAAs and others are getting 5. Heck Daton Fix can probably take another Oly year next year and still be eligible to compete at NCAAs in 2 years at the age of 27. This is correct , daton can sit this upcoming year with the Olympic and wrestle his 5th year at 26/27
NearFall Posted March 23, 2023 Posted March 23, 2023 12 hours ago, CHROMEBIRD said: The NCAA could pass a bylaw to eliminate ORS if they wanted to. It would just be an incredibly stupid move, one that goes against their mission, and would trigger a sh*tstorm because it would very likely have to apply to other sports as well. The NCAA doing something "incredibly stupid" ?????
11986 Posted March 23, 2023 Posted March 23, 2023 are either Bouzakis or Mendez eligible for an Olympic RS? Assuming Bouzakis is in fact staying at Ohio State, this could help them sort out the 133 logjam, at least for one more year. I guess Mendez could just a take regular RS next year too.
nhs67 Posted March 24, 2023 Posted March 24, 2023 Criteria for 2024 Olympic Redshirt... 4 "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me
BigRedFan Posted March 24, 2023 Posted March 24, 2023 Not that it will happen, but Cornell has four guys who would qualify: Vito, Cornella, Foca, and Cardenas. Ugh.
Gus Posted March 24, 2023 Posted March 24, 2023 Below is from Yankeefan33 on the Iowa message board (GIA) "A huge disclaimer on my list- I based it off of the 2020 Olympic trials qualifications, which I have adapted for 2023. I don't believe USA Wrestling has posted official 2023-2024 Olympic redshirt qualification (if they have, someone please let me know!). Qualification methods: 1) Past National Team members (Top 3 from the World or Olympic Team Trials) 2) Top 8 at the April 2023 Senior US Open 3) Top 3 at the 2023 NCAA Wrestling Championship; or NCAA Champion from a previous year AND top 2 from the 2023 U23 World Team Trials (must accomplish both) 4) Previous U17, U20, U23 World Medalist I have 53 current wrestlers with eligibility left and enrolled in a D1 school that have qualified. Additionally, I have listed wrestlers at the bottom that are either off D1 rosters or still in high school. If anyone sees someone I missed, please let me know! Qualifiers of #1- Past National Team members (Top 3 from the World or Olympic Team Trials) Braxton Amos, Wisconsin- 2020/2021 World Team, 2nd Place at 97kg (Greco) Carter Young, Oklahoma State- 2021 World Team, 3rd Place at 61kg Carter Starocci, Penn State- 2021 World Team, 3rd Place at 79kg Qualifiers of #3- Top 3 at the 2023 NCAA Wrestling Championships/Previous Champion Real Woods, Iowa- 2023 NCAA Tournament, 2nd at 141lbs Andrew Alirez, Northern Colorado- 2023 NCAA Tournament, 1st at 141lbs Sammy Sasso, Ohio State- 2023 NCAA Tournament, 2nd at 149lbs Levi Haines, Penn State- 2023 NCAA Tournament, 2nd at 157lbs Parker Keckeisen, Northern Iowa- 2023 NCAA Tournament, 2nd at 184lbs Shayne Van Ness, Penn State- 2023 NCAA Tournament, 3rd at 149lbs Chris Foca, Cornell- 2023 NCAA Tournament, 3rd at 174lbs Wyatt Hendrickson, Air Force- 2023 NCAA Tournament, 3rd at 285lbs Qualifiers of #4- Previous Junior/University World Medalist Daton Fix, Oklahoma State- Bronze Medal, 2015 Cadet World Championships Vito Arujau, Cornell- Silver Medal, 2016 Cadet World Championships Kurt McHenry, Michigan- Gold Medal, 2016 Cadet World Championships David Carr, Iowa State- Bronze Medal, 2016 Cadet World Championships Travis Wittlake, Oklahoma State- Bronze Medal, 2016 Cadet World Championships Jacori Teemer, Arizona State- Bronze Medal, 2017 Cadet World Championships Will Lewan, Michigan- Gold Medal, 2017 Cadet World Championships Aaron Brooks, Penn State- Gold Medal, 2017 Cadet World Championships Gavin Hoffman, Ohio State- Bronze Medal, 2017 Cadet World Championships Daniel Kerkvliet, Penn State-Gold Medal, 2017 Cadet World Championships Cohlton Schultz, Arizona State- Gold Medal, 2017 Cadet World Championships (Greco) Matthew Ramos, Purdue- Gold Medal, 2018 Cadet World Championships Richie Figueroa, Arizona State- Silver Medal, 2018 Cadet World Championships Abe Assad, Iowa- Bronze Medal, 2018 Cadet World Championships Alex Facundo, Penn State- Bronze Medal, 2018 Cadet World Championships Zach Elam, Missouri- Silver Medal, 2018 Junior World Championships Mekhi Lewis, Virginia Tech- Gold Medal, 2018 Junior World Championships Marc-Anthony McGowan, Princeton- Gold Medal, 2019 Cadet World Championships Gabe Tagg, South Dakota State- Bronze Medal, 2019 Junior World Championships Trent Hidlay, North Carolina State- Bronze Medal, 2019 Junior World Championships Lucas Davison, Northwestern- Silver Medal, 2019 Junior World Championships Peyton Omania, Michigan State- Bronze Medal, 2019 Junior World Championships (Greco) Meyer Shapiro, Cornell- Gold Medal, 2021 Cadet World Championships James Rowley, Wisconsin- Silver Medal, 2021 Cadet World Championships Jim Mullen, Virginia Tech- Silver Medal, 2021 Cadet World Championships Nate Jesuroga, Iowa- Bronze Medal, 2021 Cadet World Championships Cory Land, Northern Iowa- Silver Medal, 2021 Cadet World Championships (Greco) Beau Bartlett, Penn State- Bronze Medal, 2021 Junior World Championships Bryce Andonion, Virginia Tech- Bronze Medal, 2021 Junior World Championships Keegan O’Toole, Missouri- Gold Medal, 2021 Junior World Championships Rocky Elam, Missouri- Gold Medal, 2021 Junior World Championships Tony Cassioppi, Iowa- Gold Medal, 2021 U23 World Championships Tyler Kasak, Penn State- Silver Medal, 2022 U17 World Championships Max McEnelly, Minnesota- Bronze Medal, 2022 U17 World Championships Joel Adams, Michigan- Gold Medal, 2022 U17 World Championships (Greco) Jore Volk, Wyoming- Gold Medal, 2022 U20 World Championships Mitchell Mesenbrink, Cal Poly- Silver Medal, 2022 U20 World Championships Bennett Berge, South Dakota State- Silver Medal, 2022 U20 World Championships Ben Kueter, Iowa- Gold Medal, 2022 U20 World Championships Aden Attao, Oregon State- Bronze Medal, 2022 U20 World Championships (Greco) Tanner Sloan, South Dakota State- Silver Medal, 2022 U23 World Championships Jacob Cardenas, Cornell- Silver Medal, 2022 U23 World Championships Non-D1 Cevion Severado, Grand View- Silver Medal, 2017 Junior World Championships (Greco) AJ Ferrari, n/a- Bronze Medal, 2018 Cadet World Championships High School, Not College Eligible Bo Bassett, n/a- Gold Medal, 2021 Cadet World Championships Luke Lilledahl, n/a- Silver Medal, 2021 Cadet World Championships Joe Sealey, Penn State- Gold Medal, 2022 U17 World Championships Koy Hopke, n/a- Gold Medal, 2022 U17 World Championships Domenic Munaretto, n/a- Gold Medal, 2022 U17 World Championships Christian Castillo, n/a- Silver Medal, 2022 U17 World Championships Jax Forrest, n/a- Silver Medal, 2022 U17 World Championships Zack Ryder, Penn State- Bronze Medal, 2022 U17 World Championships Cody Merrill, n/a- Bronze Medal, 2022 U17 World Championships (Greco)" 1
Dogbone Posted March 24, 2023 Posted March 24, 2023 2 hours ago, nhs67 said: Criteria for 2024 Olympic Redshirt... #5 is interesting that they included the "AND". It would seem to only apply to Shane Griffith? Carr, Mekhi and AJ Ferrari all past champs with eligibility but they are previous UWW medalist so don't need #5. 1
Sam Herring Bishop McCort, Pennsylvania Class of 2026 Committed to Penn State Projected Weight: 141, 149
Luke Murray Peninsula Catholic, Virginia Class of 2025 Committed to Gardner-Webb Projected Weight: 157, 165
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