Olympic RedShirts

[SunDevil]

Wonder who will take one next season? Many of these guys I would imagine also have the Covid year. That’s a lot of years in college. 

For ASU, I think it’s only Schultz, Figs and Teemer that qualify. 

[Dogbone]

I thought I heard Alirez was taking one.

[Dogbone]

Question on Oly Redshirts....  It is my understand that USA Wrestling (a separate entity than the NCAA) determines the criteria for who is eligible to take an Oly Redshirt. 

My questions is under what authority can USAW impact the NCAA eligibility rules? 

And if there was some rule/law passed by the NCAA that deferred that authority to USAW, could USAW have determined that everyone who competed in 2020 season was deemed to have been an Oly Redshirt so that the seniors wouldn't have lost a year of eligibility?  

Still weird to me that some guys only got to compete in 3 NCAAs and others are getting 5.  Heck Daton Fix can probably take another Oly year next year and still be eligible to compete at NCAAs in 2 years at the age of 27. 

[CHROMEBIRD]

The NCAA could pass a bylaw to eliminate ORS if they wanted to. It would just be an incredibly stupid move, one that goes against their mission, and would trigger a sh*tstorm because it would very likely have to apply to other sports as well.

[Wrestleknownothing]

1 hour ago, Dogbone said:

Question on Oly Redshirts....  It is my understand that USA Wrestling (a separate entity than the NCAA) determines the criteria for who is eligible to take an Oly Redshirt. 

My questions is under what authority can USAW impact the NCAA eligibility rules? 

And if there was some rule/law passed by the NCAA that deferred that authority to USAW, could USAW have determined that everyone who competed in 2020 season was deemed to have been an Oly Redshirt so that the seniors wouldn't have lost a year of eligibility?  

Still weird to me that some guys only got to compete in 3 NCAAs and others are getting 5.  Heck Daton Fix can probably take another Oly year next year and still be eligible to compete at NCAAs in 2 years at the age of 27. 

Olympic redshirt standards are specified in NCAA rules. I am not sure to what extent they are coordinated with USAW or if USAW has any input.

[Antitroll2828]

3 hours ago, Dogbone said:

Question on Oly Redshirts....  It is my understand that USA Wrestling (a separate entity than the NCAA) determines the criteria for who is eligible to take an Oly Redshirt. 

My questions is under what authority can USAW impact the NCAA eligibility rules? 

And if there was some rule/law passed by the NCAA that deferred that authority to USAW, could USAW have determined that everyone who competed in 2020 season was deemed to have been an Oly Redshirt so that the seniors wouldn't have lost a year of eligibility?  

Still weird to me that some guys only got to compete in 3 NCAAs and others are getting 5.  Heck Daton Fix can probably take another Oly year next year and still be eligible to compete at NCAAs in 2 years at the age of 27. 

This is correct , daton can sit this upcoming year with the Olympic  and wrestle his 5th year at 26/27 

[NearFall]

12 hours ago, CHROMEBIRD said:

The NCAA could pass a bylaw to eliminate ORS if they wanted to. It would just be an incredibly stupid move, one that goes against their mission, and would trigger a sh*tstorm because it would very likely have to apply to other sports as well.

The NCAA doing something "incredibly stupid" ?????

 

[11986]

are either Bouzakis or Mendez eligible for an Olympic RS? Assuming Bouzakis is in fact staying at Ohio State, this could help them sort out the 133 logjam, at least for one more year. I guess Mendez could just a take regular RS next year too. 

[nhs67]

Criteria for 2024 Olympic Redshirt...

 

[BigRedFan]

Not that it will happen, but Cornell has four guys who would qualify:  Vito, Cornella, Foca, and Cardenas.  Ugh.

[Gus]

Below is from Yankeefan33 on the Iowa message board (GIA)

"A huge disclaimer on my list- I based it off of the 2020 Olympic trials qualifications, which I have adapted for 2023. I don't believe USA Wrestling has posted official 2023-2024 Olympic redshirt qualification (if they have, someone please let me know!). Qualification methods:

1) Past National Team members (Top 3 from the World or Olympic Team Trials)
2) Top 8 at the April 2023 Senior US Open
3) Top 3 at the 2023 NCAA Wrestling Championship; or NCAA Champion from a previous year AND top 2 from the 2023 U23 World Team Trials (must accomplish both)
4) Previous U17, U20, U23 World Medalist

I have 53 current wrestlers with eligibility left and enrolled in a D1 school that have qualified. Additionally, I have listed wrestlers at the bottom that are either off D1 rosters or still in high school. If anyone sees someone I missed, please let me know!

Qualifiers of #1- Past National Team members (Top 3 from the World or Olympic Team Trials)
Braxton Amos, Wisconsin- 2020/2021 World Team, 2nd Place at 97kg (Greco)
Carter Young, Oklahoma State- 2021 World Team, 3rd Place at 61kg
Carter Starocci, Penn State- 2021 World Team, 3rd Place at 79kg

Qualifiers of #3- Top 3 at the 2023 NCAA Wrestling Championships/Previous Champion
Real Woods, Iowa- 2023 NCAA Tournament, 2nd at 141lbs
Andrew Alirez, Northern Colorado- 2023 NCAA Tournament, 1st at 141lbs
Sammy Sasso, Ohio State- 2023 NCAA Tournament, 2nd at 149lbs
Levi Haines, Penn State- 2023 NCAA Tournament, 2nd at 157lbs
Parker Keckeisen, Northern Iowa- 2023 NCAA Tournament, 2nd at 184lbs
Shayne Van Ness, Penn State- 2023 NCAA Tournament, 3rd at 149lbs
Chris Foca, Cornell- 2023 NCAA Tournament, 3rd at 174lbs
Wyatt Hendrickson, Air Force- 2023 NCAA Tournament, 3rd at 285lbs

Qualifiers of #4- Previous Junior/University World Medalist
Daton Fix, Oklahoma State- Bronze Medal, 2015 Cadet World Championships
Vito Arujau, Cornell- Silver Medal, 2016 Cadet World Championships
Kurt McHenry, Michigan- Gold Medal, 2016 Cadet World Championships
David Carr, Iowa State- Bronze Medal, 2016 Cadet World Championships
Travis Wittlake, Oklahoma State- Bronze Medal, 2016 Cadet World Championships
Jacori Teemer, Arizona State- Bronze Medal, 2017 Cadet World Championships
Will Lewan, Michigan- Gold Medal, 2017 Cadet World Championships
Aaron Brooks, Penn State- Gold Medal, 2017 Cadet World Championships
Gavin Hoffman, Ohio State- Bronze Medal, 2017 Cadet World Championships
Daniel Kerkvliet, Penn State-Gold Medal, 2017 Cadet World Championships
Cohlton Schultz, Arizona State- Gold Medal, 2017 Cadet World Championships (Greco)
Matthew Ramos, Purdue- Gold Medal, 2018 Cadet World Championships
Richie Figueroa, Arizona State- Silver Medal, 2018 Cadet World Championships
Abe Assad, Iowa- Bronze Medal, 2018 Cadet World Championships
Alex Facundo, Penn State- Bronze Medal, 2018 Cadet World Championships
Zach Elam, Missouri- Silver Medal, 2018 Junior World Championships
Mekhi Lewis, Virginia Tech- Gold Medal, 2018 Junior World Championships
Marc-Anthony McGowan, Princeton- Gold Medal, 2019 Cadet World Championships
Gabe Tagg, South Dakota State- Bronze Medal, 2019 Junior World Championships
Trent Hidlay, North Carolina State- Bronze Medal, 2019 Junior World Championships
Lucas Davison, Northwestern- Silver Medal, 2019 Junior World Championships
Peyton Omania, Michigan State- Bronze Medal, 2019 Junior World Championships (Greco)
Meyer Shapiro, Cornell- Gold Medal, 2021 Cadet World Championships
James Rowley, Wisconsin- Silver Medal, 2021 Cadet World Championships
Jim Mullen, Virginia Tech- Silver Medal, 2021 Cadet World Championships
Nate Jesuroga, Iowa- Bronze Medal, 2021 Cadet World Championships
Cory Land, Northern Iowa- Silver Medal, 2021 Cadet World Championships (Greco)
Beau Bartlett, Penn State- Bronze Medal, 2021 Junior World Championships
Bryce Andonion, Virginia Tech- Bronze Medal, 2021 Junior World Championships
Keegan O’Toole, Missouri- Gold Medal, 2021 Junior World Championships
Rocky Elam, Missouri- Gold Medal, 2021 Junior World Championships
Tony Cassioppi, Iowa- Gold Medal, 2021 U23 World Championships
Tyler Kasak, Penn State- Silver Medal, 2022 U17 World Championships
Max McEnelly, Minnesota- Bronze Medal, 2022 U17 World Championships
Joel Adams, Michigan- Gold Medal, 2022 U17 World Championships (Greco)
Jore Volk, Wyoming- Gold Medal, 2022 U20 World Championships
Mitchell Mesenbrink, Cal Poly- Silver Medal, 2022 U20 World Championships
Bennett Berge, South Dakota State- Silver Medal, 2022 U20 World Championships
Ben Kueter, Iowa- Gold Medal, 2022 U20 World Championships
Aden Attao, Oregon State- Bronze Medal, 2022 U20 World Championships (Greco)
Tanner Sloan, South Dakota State- Silver Medal, 2022 U23 World Championships
Jacob Cardenas, Cornell- Silver Medal, 2022 U23 World Championships

Non-D1
Cevion Severado, Grand View- Silver Medal, 2017 Junior World Championships (Greco)
AJ Ferrari, n/a- Bronze Medal, 2018 Cadet World Championships

High School, Not College Eligible
Bo Bassett, n/a- Gold Medal, 2021 Cadet World Championships
Luke Lilledahl, n/a- Silver Medal, 2021 Cadet World Championships
Joe Sealey, Penn State- Gold Medal, 2022 U17 World Championships
Koy Hopke, n/a- Gold Medal, 2022 U17 World Championships
Domenic Munaretto, n/a- Gold Medal, 2022 U17 World Championships
Christian Castillo, n/a- Silver Medal, 2022 U17 World Championships
Jax Forrest, n/a- Silver Medal, 2022 U17 World Championships
Zack Ryder, Penn State- Bronze Medal, 2022 U17 World Championships
Cody Merrill, n/a- Bronze Medal, 2022 U17 World Championships (Greco)"

[Dogbone]

2 hours ago, nhs67 said:

Criteria for 2024 Olympic Redshirt...

 

#5 is interesting that they included the "AND".  It would seem to only apply to Shane Griffith?  Carr, Mekhi and AJ Ferrari all past champs with eligibility but they are previous UWW medalist so don't need #5.