flyingcement Posted April 27, 2023 Posted April 27, 2023 125: Spratley 133: Fix 141: Young 149: Alvarez 157: Williams 165: Olejnik 174: Plott 184: Wittlake...? 197: Surber 285: Doucet / Carroll (RS)
Indiana-Hawk-Wrestling-Fan Posted April 27, 2023 Author Posted April 27, 2023 Saw Shawn Streck is wrestling at the Cowboy Wrestling Club. I know he tried to transfer there first before transferring to Central Oklahoma. Is he back in the process of wanting to transfer there?
BobDole Posted April 27, 2023 Posted April 27, 2023 9 minutes ago, Indiana-Hawk-Wrestling-Fan said: Saw Shawn Streck is wrestling at the Cowboy Wrestling Club. I know he tried to transfer there first before transferring to Central Oklahoma. Is he back in the process of wanting to transfer there? He is likely out of DI eligibility.
ionel Posted April 27, 2023 Posted April 27, 2023 50 minutes ago, flyingcement said: 125: Spratley 133: Fix 141: Young 149: Alvarez 157: Williams 165: Olejnik 174: Plott 184: Wittlake...? 197: Surber 285: Doucet / Carroll (RS) Pretty certain (guaranteed it on that other thread) Alvarez 141. .
Idaho Posted April 27, 2023 Posted April 27, 2023 Fly under the radar portal king: Jacob Butler Sponsored by INTERMAT
Indiana-Hawk-Wrestling-Fan Posted April 27, 2023 Author Posted April 27, 2023 6 hours ago, Mike said: Word is RU is expecting a transfer not named Griffith or Cannon to come through very shortly. Not sure who is out there and makes sense at a weight of need (middleweights)...maybe Alejandro Herrera-Rondon? Jacob Butler from OU to Rutgers!
flyingcement Posted April 27, 2023 Posted April 27, 2023 7 minutes ago, Indiana-Hawk-Wrestling-Fan said: Jacob Butler from OU to Rutgers! Great for both. He slides in right away as the starter at 157.
Mike Posted April 28, 2023 Posted April 28, 2023 Had the wrong OU guy at 157 but I hear he is going down to 149 for next year.
flyingcement Posted April 28, 2023 Posted April 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, Mike said: Had the wrong OU guy at 157 but I hear he is going down to 149 for next year. Butler going 149? What about Tony White?
Indiana-Hawk-Wrestling-Fan Posted April 28, 2023 Author Posted April 28, 2023 6 minutes ago, Mike said: Had the wrong OU guy at 157 but I hear he is going down to 149 for next year. That’s what I thought, I thought he’d be at 149 next year
Mike Posted April 28, 2023 Posted April 28, 2023 14 minutes ago, flyingcement said: Butler going 149? What about Tony White? I think White is going 157 and Clark is going to RS 1
Idaho Posted April 28, 2023 Posted April 28, 2023 Butler is that guy that's always been hovering along the outside edge of the AA tier of wrestlers. I think he makes the jump - solid pick up for Rutgers. Sponsored by INTERMAT
Offthemat Posted April 28, 2023 Posted April 28, 2023 18 minutes ago, Idaho said: Butler is that guy that's always been hovering along the outside edge of the AA tier of wrestlers. I think he makes the jump - solid pick up for Rutgers. He beat the guy OU sent to the NCAAs, but he was light for 157.
nhs67 Posted April 28, 2023 Posted April 28, 2023 18 hours ago, flyingcement said: 125: Spratley 133: Fix 141: Young 149: Alvarez 157: Williams 165: Olejnik 174: Plott 184: Wittlake...? 197: Surber 285: Doucet / Carroll (RS) I think they should redshirt Carroll unless he is heads and shoulders above Doucet in the room. I would also see if Plott and Wittlake might be on board with swapping this next season. Plott has a higher ceiling and is more fundamentally sound. With the three time defending champion heading up to 197 they have a chance for higher peak points if they swap. Unless... Starocci takes an ORS. Then leave it. "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me
ionel Posted April 28, 2023 Posted April 28, 2023 20 hours ago, flyingcement said: 125: Spratley 133: Fix 141: Young 149: Alvarez 157: Williams 165: Olejnik 174: Plott 184: Wittlake...? 197: Surber 285: Doucet / Carroll (RS) 2 hours ago, nhs67 said: I think they should redshirt Carroll unless he is heads and shoulders above Doucet in the room. I would also see if Plott and Wittlake might be on board with swapping this next season. Plott has a higher ceiling and is more fundamentally sound. With the three time defending champion heading up to 197 they have a chance for higher peak points if they swap. Unless... Starocci takes an ORS. Then leave it. I would expect Carrol RS, Plott has a RS so could see Wittlake 74 and Haas at 84. Alvarez at 41 not sure on 49 maybe VV just testing the portal value & is back, there's another Sheets at 49. 157 is a hole, can the juco kid go down (he looks lean), Williams maybe but like Sheets gotta improve. 1 .
Indiana-Hawk-Wrestling-Fan Posted April 29, 2023 Author Posted April 29, 2023 Has there been any new names in the portal?
Lunaticfringe Posted April 30, 2023 Posted April 30, 2023 With how kids transfer these days, why would you ever redshirt the best wrestler for a weight? Very few will stay the course whom have options 3
Idaho Posted April 30, 2023 Posted April 30, 2023 10 hours ago, Lunaticfringe said: With how kids transfer these days, why would you ever redshirt the best wrestler for a weight? Very few will stay the course whom have options Agreed... saving guys to build them up for 4 years may become something of the past. I can see an OLY year, wanted by the the wrestler who has olympic dreams, being used.... but the redshirt of collegiate competition will be less utilized by top wrestlers if they are the best in their weight. Sponsored by INTERMAT
Idaho Posted April 30, 2023 Posted April 30, 2023 30 minutes ago, Offthemat said: Especially at Penn State. You have to wonder with their depth, how many guys will stay there who can't get on the mat. Are there guys who will go there....find out that they can't get on the mat... then transfer out knowing they got a couple good years of training to prepare them for their next step of starting at another school? There are guys that will stay the duration, but see little time (Nevills). Sponsored by INTERMAT
CHROMEBIRD Posted April 30, 2023 Posted April 30, 2023 15 hours ago, Lunaticfringe said: With how kids transfer these days, why would you ever redshirt the best wrestler for a weight? Very few will stay the course whom have options How often do wrestlers transfer during their RS year? I can see it happening if someone gets recruited over or if there's a coaching change but if it's otherwise not a common occurrence why not let them RS? Then you have a better version of that wrestler for at least a season (when they come out of RS) and it takes away from their eligibility clock if they end up transferring.
Idaho Posted April 30, 2023 Posted April 30, 2023 3 hours ago, CHROMEBIRD said: How often do wrestlers transfer during their RS year? I can see it happening if someone gets recruited over or if there's a coaching change but if it's otherwise not a common occurrence why not let them RS? Then you have a better version of that wrestler for at least a season (when they come out of RS) and it takes away from their eligibility clock if they end up transferring. Messenbrink, Rowley, Spratley off the top of my head for this year. Next year will be interesting to see if it happens more. 1 Sponsored by INTERMAT
flyingcement Posted April 30, 2023 Posted April 30, 2023 Brayden Thompson- sounds like he may no longer be welcome at Oklahoma State for the vaping incident. Personally I look at a guy like Seth Gross and don't think twice about offering a second chance but I get people don't want to set a precedent. Anyways, any thoughts on landing spots for Thompson? I was thinking Iowa State or Wisconsin
Indiana-Hawk-Wrestling-Fan Posted April 30, 2023 Author Posted April 30, 2023 1 minute ago, flyingcement said: Brayden Thompson- sounds like he may no longer be welcome at Oklahoma State for the vaping incident. Personally I look at a guy like Seth Gross and don't think twice about offering a second chance but I get people don't want to set a precedent. Anyways, any thoughts on landing spots for Thompson? I was thinking Iowa State or Wisconsin How true is this? That he won’t be at Okie St next year?
flyingcement Posted April 30, 2023 Posted April 30, 2023 7 minutes ago, Indiana-Hawk-Wrestling-Fan said: How true is this? That he won’t be at Okie St next year? Not sure - I probably should have worded it differently. There are rumblings among the forum prognosticators
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