B1G - Session 1, 3/4/23 10:00 AM

[PortaJohn]

Just now, Mr. PeanutButter said:

I'm neither old nor fat and I managed to place at state so can I please get a pass?

what state?

[Mr. PeanutButter]

1 minute ago, PortaJohn said:

what state?

Oregon. 5a. 2011

[PortaJohn]

Just now, Mr. PeanutButter said:

Oregon. 5a. 2011

Then the answer is no

[Mr. PeanutButter]

5 minutes ago, Antitroll2828 said:

Kerk has 2 absolute dog fights coming up tonight and tomorrow why risk tweaking something shooting under a 280 pound guy when he can just get his points and ride, he can ride the guy til he dies of starvation if he wants why do anything else? 

I understand. Kerk did what he had to do. I'd rather Jacob Warner win by stall ride than lose by last second takedown but... That doesn't mean I'm going to be stoked watching it

[jajensen09]

1 hour ago, lightweight said:

Pinto fire extinguished

Nobody wants to see him come ncaas 

[jajensen09]

40 minutes ago, flyingcement said:

Burwick two and out - unlikely to qualify for the nationals

Is he done done? Or does he get shot at pig tails?

[lightweight]

17 minutes ago, Antitroll2828 said:

Kerk has 2 absolute dog fights coming up tonight and tomorrow why risk tweaking something shooting under a 280 pound guy when he can just get his points and ride, he can ride the guy til he dies of starvation if he wants why do anything else? 

Agreed.

Although given that they are heavyweights, time will probably expire before they die of starvation.  

[SocraTease]

2023 Big Ten Championships

Team Standings
	Team Score	# Wrestlers	# Pigtails	# QF	# SF	# Consi	Max Possible
Iowa	63.5	10	8	10	6	4	231.5
Penn State	63.5	10	3	9	7	3	227.5
Minnesota	51.5	10	10	8	5	5	207
Ohio State	45.5	10	7	7	5	5	179.5
Nebraska	45	10	6	6	5	5	181.5
Michigan	43	10	8	8	4	6	223
Northwestern	23	10	10	8	2	8	214
Wisconsin	23	10	8	5	2	8	213.5
Indiana	17.5	10	10	4	1	9	213.5
Illinois	15.5	10	10	3	1	9	171
Michigan State	15.5	10	10	4	1	9	172.5
Purdue	14	10	10	3	1	9	212.5
Maryland	6	10	10	2		10	190
Rutgers	3.5	10	10	3		10	183.5

[Royalfan]

21 minutes ago, jajensen09 said:

Is he done done? Or does he get shot at pig tails?

Should be involved in a 9th place tourney if memory serves. 

[jajensen09]

2 minutes ago, Royalfan said:

Should be involved in a 9th place tourney if memory serves. 

All wrestlers do? I can't remember how it works either. Or if you go 0-2 you are done

[Royalfan]

5 minutes ago, jajensen09 said:

All wrestlers do? I can't remember how it works either. Or if you go 0-2 you are done

Not speaking with a tremendous amount of certainty but I believe all weights where there are more than 8 spots available there is a "9th place" tournament which is reseeded among the 6 guys that are not in the top 8.  This should happen for Burwick, Morton and Emerson.   It is not a part of the team scoring.  

I also believe the typically have one of these when only 8 spots are allocated as well.  I think that one potential criteria for getting a wild card is finishing one place below the automatic allocation.  Wilson could be involved in such a scenario if he loses in this next session.  

 

 

Edited March 4, 2023 by Royalfan

[VakAttack]

44 minutes ago, PortaJohn said:

No, not a soccer guy.  Just think a bunch of old fat dudes who never even placed at state are a little ridiculous when complaining about tactics that high level wrestlers use to conserve energy at a multi day high level tournament

You must be fun to watch any sport with.  "Just sit there quietly and don't comment on anything.  Only high level athletes can comment on anything that's happening!"

[jajensen09]

5 minutes ago, Royalfan said:

Not speaking with a tremendous amount of certainty but I believe all weights where there are more than 8 spots available there is a "9th place" tournament which is reseeded among the 6 guys that are not in the top 8.  This should happen for Burwick, Morton and Emerson.   It is not a part of the team scoring.  

I also believe the typically have one of these when only 8 spots are allocated as well.  I think that one potential criteria for getting a wild card is finishing one place below the automatic allocation.  Wilson could be involved in such a scenario if he loses in this next session.  

 

 

Thank you for clarifying.  Wasn't sure 

[nhs67]

9 minutes ago, jajensen09 said:

All wrestlers do? I can't remember how it works either. Or if you go 0-2 you are done

 

4 minutes ago, Royalfan said:

Not speaking with a tremendous amount of certainty but I believe all weights where there are more than 8 spots available there is a "9th place" tournament which is reseeded among the 6 guys that are not in the top 8.  This should happen for Burwick, Morton and Emerson.   It is not a part of the team scoring.  

I also believe the typically have one of these when only 8 spots are allocated as well.  I think that one potential criteria for getting a wild card is finishing one place below the automatic allocation.  Wilson could be involved in such a scenario if he loses in this next session.  

 

 

Selection criteria for an at-large includes 'next man up' in it.

Meaning if your conference had 8 allocations and you were the 9th or if it had 10 allocations and you were the 11th or 5 allocations and you were the 6th, etc.

Meaning whatever your conference has for allocations, they must place at least one (1) spot higher.

If 13e has 9 allocations then they will at least place to 10th.

[jajensen09]

10 minutes ago, nhs67 said:

 

Selection criteria for an at-large includes 'next man up' in it.

Meaning if your conference had 8 allocations and you were the 9th or if it had 10 allocations and you were the 11th or 5 allocations and you were the 6th, etc.

Meaning whatever your conference has for allocations, they must place at least one (1) spot higher.

If 13e has 9 allocations then they will at least place to 10th.

Ok. But how many wrestle in the pig tails. Use 149 for example 

[jajensen09]

12 minutes ago, nhs67 said:

 

Selection criteria for an at-large includes 'next man up' in it.

Meaning if your conference had 8 allocations and you were the 9th or if it had 10 allocations and you were the 11th or 5 allocations and you were the 6th, etc.

Meaning whatever your conference has for allocations, they must place at least one (1) spot higher.

If 13e has 9 allocations then they will at least place to 10th.

So Like you are saying for 133. How many guys wrestle for that spot. All the guys or a select few?

[nhs67]

10 minutes ago, jajensen09 said:

So Like you are saying for 133. How many guys wrestle for that spot. All the guys or a select few?

All six (6) guys remaining will be drawn in to a 6 (8) man bracket with the two highest remaining seeds getting first round byes.

[jajensen09]

2 minutes ago, nhs67 said:

All six (6) guys remaining will be drawn in to a 6 (8) man bracket with the two highest remaining seeds getting first round byes.

And they all wrestle for 1 spot?

[nhs67]

7 minutes ago, jajensen09 said:

And they all wrestle for 1 spot?

Think of it as a winner takes all.  1st of that bracket would be the 9th placer. 

If the weight allocated 9, then they will have a 'true 3rd(10th) match from that bracket's 2nd(10th) and 3rd(11th) so long as the 2nd(10th) and the 3rd(11th) did not face each other in that specific '9th place' bracket.

[ILLINIWrestlingBlog]

There are already some answers to the ILLINI Wrestling Blog and Forum and Beyond Prop Bet Contest. Here ya go:

1. Spencer Lee will get a first-period pinfall in his first match at the 2023 B1G tournament (No)
2. Carter Starocci will not give up a point in his first two matches during the 2023 B1G tournament (No)
3. Maryland will have two or more semi-finalists at the 2023 B1G tournament (No)
4. The last match of the 2023 B1G tournament will involve Yianni Diakomihalis (No)

Plenty of TBD prop bets left. Good luck!

As for the ILLINI barf. Thicc Zac was great. He wears folks out. Lucas Byrd's ref gets special mention for allowing Nagao to take zero attacks during the match AND spend a cumulative 2:00 with a front headlock on Byrd. 

[uncle bernard]

51 minutes ago, VakAttack said:

You must be fun to watch any sport with.  "Just sit there quietly and don't comment on anything.  Only high level athletes can comment on anything that's happening!"

absolutely the dumbest line in sports. see it all the time. why stop there? why even let us watch at allsince we clearly have no idea whats going?

[PortaJohn]

1 hour ago, VakAttack said:

You must be fun to watch any sport with.  "Just sit there quietly and don't comment on anything.  Only high level athletes can comment on anything that's happening!"

 

15 minutes ago, uncle bernard said:

absolutely the dumbest line in sports. see it all the time. why stop there? why even let us watch at allsince we clearly have no idea whats going?

You two are fantastic! 

[uncle bernard]

12 minutes ago, PortaJohn said:

 

You two are fantastic! 

sir are you an elite wrestling fan? if not, i'd ask you to refrain on commenting on the performance of those that are like vak and myself

[PortaJohn]

2 minutes ago, uncle bernard said:

sir are you an elite wrestling fan? if not, i'd ask you to refrain on commenting on the performance of those that are like vak and myself

I just like to keep things in perspective 

[D3UC157]

32 minutes ago, ILLINIWrestlingBlog said:

1. The last match of the 2023 B1G tournament will involve Yianni Diakomihalis (No)

Special guest referee? Comes down to interfere via a chair shot? Escorts Kerk/Cass to the mat with a megaphone spouting how the opponent has no nuts?Hiding under the ring to make his appearance as Mason Parris’ long, lost, thought-to-be-dead, brother!?

I think we should wait to see how this plays out.