recent examples in media spin

[jross]

Normally, the media doesn’t lie outright by claiming something occurred that didn’t. They exaggerate, omit context, and spin information. So when multiple articles on the left and right say that Blake was heckling, we can accept that as true.  It is further supported by the same behavior at several Trump rallies.  What is less heard of is the idea of someone being assaulted because of their shirt and nothing else.  That was all one needed to know!  

You were basically the only person insisting this was an attack because of the shirt. That insistence is what made me rewatch the videos. If you slow the footage down, you can see Blake yelling at the stage.

 

[jross]

19 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

Why was she the only person the police took out of there?   She was assaulted and the assaulters pointed her out to the police and went after her and only her. Apparently the assaulters were even bragging about it after the fact.  Disgusting.

In the moment, she was the problem.  When security got there to remove her she was being held under control rather than assaulted.   And she didn't report being assaulted...  Removing hecklers is standard security.

Assaulters bragging after is disgusting but it isn't fascism.

Edited Monday at 11:28 PM by jross

[mspart]

Here's assault over a shirt:

https://clarkcountytoday.com/story/soccer-team-security-scrutinized-after-podcaster-group

 

 

 

Soccer team, security scrutinized after podcaster, group removed over t-shirts

The incident is being reviewed by the Department of Justice, according to media reports

Pressure is increasing on Providence Park Stadium and the Portland Thorns soccer team following an incident Friday night in which Seattle podcaster Brandi Kruse and several others said they were assaulted and forcibly removed from the game because they wore shirts from XX-XY Athletics, a brand that maintains women’s sports should be for women and girls only.

In video posted by Kruse, a female security guard is seen grabbing and twisting Kruse's arm, pinning it against her back, then pushing her up the stairs and out through the stands, as other fans waving trans-flags shouted “shame” and vulgar insults.

“I was just forcefully removed from a @ThornsFC game for the crime of wearing an XX-XY Athletics t-shirt. I am in shock. We peacefully wore our shirts. We were assaulted by fans. Then WE were forced to leave – with FORCE by stadium security. I am utterly in shock,” Kruse posted Friday evening.

The incident is being reviewed by the Department of Justice, according to media reports.

So Brandi Kruse and friends wore XX-XY shirts and were assaulted for it.   And those that assaulted them are held harmless.   It was Brandi and her friends that were kicked out.   Just Amazing.  

mspar

 

 

mspart

 

[1032004]

9 minutes ago, jross said:

Normally, the media doesn’t lie outright by claiming something occurred that didn’t. They exaggerate, omit context, and spin information. So when multiple articles on the left and right say that Blake was heckling, we can accept that as true.  It is further supported by the same behavior at several Trump rallies.  What is less heard of is the idea of someone being assaulted because of their shirt and nothing else.  That was all one needed to know!  

You were basically the only person insisting this was an attack because of the shirt. That insistence is what made me rewatch the videos. If you slow the footage down, you can see Blake yelling at the stage.

 

Yes, there is video of her yelling at the stage after she had been assaulted.  Not before.

I acknowledged it wasn’t because of the shirt.  You’re missing the point. The point is she was assaulted on video by multiple people at worst for yelling and she was the only person taken out by police.   THAT IS FASCISM.

Just now, jross said:

In the moment, she was the problem. 

Lololololol.  Wow.  MAGA really is a cult.

[1032004]

2 minutes ago, mspart said:

Here's assault over a shirt:

https://clarkcountytoday.com/story/soccer-team-security-scrutinized-after-podcaster-group

 

 

 

Soccer team, security scrutinized after podcaster, group removed over t-shirts

The incident is being reviewed by the Department of Justice, according to media reports

Pressure is increasing on Providence Park Stadium and the Portland Thorns soccer team following an incident Friday night in which Seattle podcaster Brandi Kruse and several others said they were assaulted and forcibly removed from the game because they wore shirts from XX-XY Athletics, a brand that maintains women’s sports should be for women and girls only.

In video posted by Kruse, a female security guard is seen grabbing and twisting Kruse's arm, pinning it against her back, then pushing her up the stairs and out through the stands, as other fans waving trans-flags shouted “shame” and vulgar insults.

“I was just forcefully removed from a @ThornsFC game for the crime of wearing an XX-XY Athletics t-shirt. I am in shock. We peacefully wore our shirts. We were assaulted by fans. Then WE were forced to leave – with FORCE by stadium security. I am utterly in shock,” Kruse posted Friday evening.

The incident is being reviewed by the Department of Justice, according to media reports.

So Brandi Kruse and friends wore XX-XY shirts and were assaulted for it.   And those that assaulted them are held harmless.   It was Brandi and her friends that were kicked out.   Just Amazing.  

mspar

 

 

mspart

 

That’s not assault lol

[mspart]

Just now, 1032004 said:

Yes, there is video of her yelling at the stage after she had been assaulted.  Not before.

I acknowledged it wasn’t because of the shirt.  You’re missing the point. The point is she was assaulted on video by multiple people at worst for yelling and she was the only person taken out by police.   THAT IS FASCISM.

Lololololol.  Wow.  MAGA really is a cult.

What do you call what happened in Portland OR as I detail just above.   Is that not also fascism?

mspart

[jross]

1 minute ago, 1032004 said:

Yes, there is video of her yelling at the stage after she had been assaulted.  Not before.

I acknowledged it wasn’t because of the shirt.  You’re missing the point. The point is she was assaulted on video by multiple people at worst for yelling and she was the only person taken out by police.   THAT IS FASCISM.

Lololololol.  Wow.  MAGA really is a cult.

No.  Put yourself in the shoes of security.  Not only can we watch on video that the assault was over ( i recall looking for it originally ), but security claims they didn't see it.

[1032004]

1 minute ago, mspart said:

What do you call what happened in Portland OR as I detail just above.   Is that not also fascism?

mspart

No. That is a private business removing a spectator.   My problem isn’t with the Epstein shirt lady being removed.  The problem is that none of her assaulters were removed as well.

[mspart]

1 minute ago, 1032004 said:

That’s not assault lol

Why is that not assault?

https://www.tmz.com/2026/10/24/brandi-kruse-escorted-out-soccer-game/

9:58 AM PT -- Podcast host Brandi Kruse tells TMZ that she and others were at the Portland Thorns game last night to protest another person they say was previously kicked out for wearing the XX-XY apparel. Brandi claims that she was assaulted, hit with flag poles, had beer poured on her, and screamed at.

Brandi claims that she was assaulted, hit with flag poles, had beer poured on her, and screamed at.   Which of these three is not assault?

mspart

[mspart]

3 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

No. That is a private business removing a spectator.   My problem isn’t with the Epstein shirt lady being removed.  The problem is that none of her assaulters were removed as well.

That's the very same thing as the Portland thing.   The assaulters were not removed.   You have a strange view of what's right to do?   Assault in one case is ok, in another not ok.   How about assault is not OK ever?  How about that?   Does that work for you?

mspart

[jross]

Some things are missing here. Fascism would be one-party rule with Trump as the dictator, where Trump controls the media and speech. Blake would be assaulted and removed for her shirt or just for appearing gender-confused. She would probably be refused a ticket, refused entry, or assaulted while attempting to enter. Security would have assaulted her and celebrated the mob for assaulting her first. Trump would be celebrating the assault. And this sort of thing would be happening in multiple places as a way of life rather than one-off chaos.  Then the media spin would be different than it was...

[1032004]

Just now, mspart said:

Why is that not assault?

https://www.tmz.com/2026/10/24/brandi-kruse-escorted-out-soccer-game/

9:58 AM PT -- Podcast host Brandi Kruse tells TMZ that she and others were at the Portland Thorns game last night to protest another person they say was previously kicked out for wearing the XX-XY apparel. Brandi claims that she was assaulted, hit with flag poles, had beer poured on her, and screamed at.

Brandi claims that she was assaulted, hit with flag poles, had beer poured on her, and screamed at.   Which of these three is not assault?

mspart

There was no assault in the video by the security guards.  Clearly they were there for content.  If those things she claims actually happened that would be assault, but considering she recorded herself on the way out not being assaulted, I’m skeptical of the other claims being true if there is no video.

[jross]

Body cam from deputies as well as the sheriff confirm the deputies did not see the punch.
 

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A review of body-camera footage indicated that deputies were forcing their way through the crowd and did not see the punch, according to the sheriff.

Doesn't sound like fascism to me.

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“I know what people saw, and if I saw that video, too, I’d be like, ‘My God, why didn’t the police do anything?’” he (Sheriff) told the Times.

https://www.wfmj.com/news/local-news/bodycam-video-released-from-altercation-at-trump-rally-in-youngstown/article_462b3203-d86e-413e-ae4c-f92104530e6f.html

https://www.newsweek.com/ohio-sheriff-investigate-punch-heckler-trump-rally-12614522

[mspart]

8 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

There was no assault in the video by the security guards.  Clearly they were there for content.  If those things she claims actually happened that would be assault, but considering she recorded herself on the way out not being assaulted, I’m skeptical of the other claims being true if there is no video.

Let's say it was filmed.   Let's say her claims are true.   Would you be for throwing out the assaulters?   Or not?   

Plus you didn't answer the question.   Is getting hit with a flag pole assault?   Is having beer poured on you assault?   Is getting yelled at assault?

mspart

[jross]

It was really disgusting, but why are you allowing emotions and bias to lead to even more statements and claims that are objectively wrong?

[1032004]

9 minutes ago, mspart said:

Let's say it was filmed.   Let's say her claims are true.   Would you be for throwing out the assaulters?   Or not?   

Plus you didn't answer the question.   Is getting hit with a flag pole assault?   Is having beer poured on you assault?   Is getting yelled at assault?

mspart

Of course I would be for throwing out the assaulters if those things actually happened.  Getting hit with a flag pole and beer poured on you would be assault, getting screamed at would not (although it could justify being thrown out of a sporting event).

[1032004]

8 minutes ago, jross said:

It was really disgusting, but why are you allowing emotions and bias to lead to even more statements and claims that are objectively wrong?

I didn’t say anything else wrong other than initially suggesting the assault was because of the shirt.

[jross]

Unfortunately this video is still the best I've seen, but its enough.

The camera holder is far away and zooms in on this lady.  The entire crowd is already staring at the lady.  Her mouth is wide open and her body posture is that of someone yelling.  The first man to 'assault' her isn't close enough to assault her yet.  You can see this in second 6.  She isn't looking at the first assaulter until he reaches her in second 7 / 8.

 

[jross]

4 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

I didn’t say anything else wrong other than initially suggesting the assault was because of the shirt.

1. Trump doesn't cheer the assault.
2. The lady is on camera yelling before she is assaulted (and later says as much)
3. This was not a display of fascism.

[1032004]

12 minutes ago, jross said:

1. Trump doesn't cheer the assault.
2. The lady is on camera yelling before she is assaulted (and later says as much)
3. This was not a display of fascism.

Mocking her IS cheering on the assault, c’mon.

She is not on camera yelling before she is assaulted.   You just reposted the same video from earlier, one of the guys is already turned around, it’s not clear that is the start of it.

Yes, it was fascism.

 

Edited Tuesday at 12:19 AM by 1032004

[1032004]

31 minutes ago, jross said:

Body cam from deputies as well as the sheriff confirm the deputies did not see the punch.
 

Doesn't sound like fascism to me.

https://www.wfmj.com/news/local-news/bodycam-video-released-from-altercation-at-trump-rally-in-youngstown/article_462b3203-d86e-413e-ae4c-f92104530e6f.html

https://www.newsweek.com/ohio-sheriff-investigate-punch-heckler-trump-rally-12614522

Let’s use some logic though.  Clearly the incident caused the entire arena and the President to look at what was happening.   You think that was all one person’s fault?  Why not ask any questions to see who else was involved?  Watching the bodycam the cops seemed to enjoy it, one looked to even take a selfie with her celebrating his fascism.

[1032004]

44 minutes ago, mspart said:

Why is that not assault?

https://www.tmz.com/2026/10/24/brandi-kruse-escorted-out-soccer-game/

9:58 AM PT -- Podcast host Brandi Kruse tells TMZ that she and others were at the Portland Thorns game last night to protest another person they say was previously kicked out for wearing the XX-XY apparel. Brandi claims that she was assaulted, hit with flag poles, had beer poured on her, and screamed at.

Brandi claims that she was assaulted, hit with flag poles, had beer poured on her, and screamed at.   Which of these three is not assault?

mspart

You left out the part about them also unfurling a giant banner.  Looks like this is more “media spin,” @jross…

[Scouts Honor]

no evidence will ever be enough to exonorate a conservative or convict a liberal in nonsense details mind

[1032004]

1 minute ago, Scouts Honor said:

no evidence will ever be enough to exonorate a conservative or convict a liberal in nonsense details mind

“Exonerate” is an interesting word choice considering the assault on video of the woman at the Trump rally.

[Scouts Honor]

assault on video

will anyting happen?