Hammerlock3 Posted October 11 Author Posted October 11 15 hours ago, Lunaticfringe said: He peaked early but Anthony Valencia is the correct answer here. Mike Evans also a good answer I'd say anthony valencia aligns perfectly with my criteria except he didn't win enough to be great....but man you might be onto something, he's in the spirit of the topic for sure...consistently quit in dramatic and highly embarassing fashion, its bizarre he was able to place at the ncaa tournament. "Half measures are a coward's form of insanity."
Caveira Posted October 12 Posted October 12 On 10/8/2026 at 10:32 AM, Mr. PeanutButter said: Whose the worst 4 timer? Many would argue Logie shouldn't have won his first title so that's a potential candidate but I would argue Yianni, only because he doesn't quite have the wins that the others do. Aaron Brooks has the worst loss though Cstall 100% is the worst 4 timer. (5 NCAAs I don’t acknowledge) 2 1
Hammerlock3 Posted October 12 Author Posted October 12 52 minutes ago, Caveira said: Cstall 100% is the worst 4 timer. (5 NCAAs I don’t acknowledge) Its a good point, if we are ranking people he should definitely not be on some higher tier than the 4 timers. 1 "Half measures are a coward's form of insanity."
MPhillips Posted October 12 Posted October 12 23 minutes ago, Hammerlock3 said: he should definitely not be on some higher tier than the 4 timers. 'Worst, "Four" Timer Tier? .
BruceyB Posted October 12 Posted October 12 53 minutes ago, MPhillips said: 'Worst, "Four" Timer Tier? 1
Hammerlock3 Posted October 12 Author Posted October 12 1 hour ago, BruceyB said: is the implication that you can't ranked the 4 timers? "Half measures are a coward's form of insanity."
BruceyB Posted October 12 Posted October 12 35 minutes ago, Hammerlock3 said: is the implication that you can't ranked the 4 timers? It is your God given right to rank whatever you please. The term "worst 4 timer" is just oxymoronic and leaves the people involved seemingly desperate to diminish an accomplishment that only a handful of people have achieved.
Hammerlock3 Posted October 12 Author Posted October 12 9 minutes ago, BruceyB said: It is your God given right to rank whatever you please. The term "worst 4 timer" is just oxymoronic and leaves the people involved seemingly desperate to diminish an accomplishment that only a handful of people have achieved. you're being hyperbolically sensitive. 1 "Half measures are a coward's form of insanity."
MPhillips Posted October 12 Posted October 12 21 minutes ago, Hammerlock3 said: you're being hyperbolically sensitive. Not to mention f'ing ridiculous. 31 minutes ago, BruceyB said: oxymoronic and leaves the people involved seemingly desperate to diminish an accomplishment that only a handful of people have achieved. You really had quite the hike to end up at that place... .
Husker_Du Posted October 12 Posted October 12 ffs just define it. let's call it 4x AA or 1x champ... proceed.... (although please stop conflating 'boring' with 'not good'. it's silly) TBD
BruceyB Posted October 12 Posted October 12 2 hours ago, MPhillips said: You really had quite the hike to end up at that place... Call it semantics but even using the term "worst 4xer" like it's some kind of insult is desperate. Some people on here will grasp at any straw to bag on PSU. 1
Hammerlock3 Posted October 12 Author Posted October 12 40 minutes ago, BruceyB said: Call it semantics but even using the term "worst 4xer" like it's some kind of insult is desperate. Some people on here will grasp at any straw to bag on PSU. who used it like an insult? Will you feel better if I say "least great great wrestler"? Will that end the moralistic posturing? 1 "Half measures are a coward's form of insanity."
MPhillips Posted October 12 Posted October 12 41 minutes ago, BruceyB said: Call it semantics but even using the term "worst 4xer" like it's some kind of insult is desperate. Some people on here will grasp at any straw to bag on PSU. But we don't have to... .
Griff the BullRam Posted October 13 Posted October 13 3X NCAA Champ Jake Rosholt would like a word here 1
Hammerlock3 Posted October 13 Author Posted October 13 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Griff the BullRam said: 3X NCAA Champ Jake Rosholt would like a word here thats a good one. He's might be the best wrestler that I can't remember being particularly good at anything...not that he wasn't, before someone gets offended. Edited October 13 by Hammerlock3 2 "Half measures are a coward's form of insanity."
Griff the BullRam Posted October 13 Posted October 13 For sure. Not taking away his accomplishment, but he's not the first name that comes to mind in a group with Ed Ruth, J'Den Cox, Spencer Lee, Kyle Snyder, Jason Nolf, etc
BruceyB Posted October 13 Posted October 13 4 hours ago, Hammerlock3 said: who used it like an insult? Will you feel better if I say "least great great wrestler"? Will that end the moralistic posturing? I was originally trying to keep from naming anyone specific, but apparently that was a mistake. Caveira repeatedly grasps for anything he can to slight PSU in anyway possible. Just reread his post that led to this. "Cstall is 100% the worst 4 timer (5 NCAAs I don't acknowledge)." He is not alone in this, but probably the most frequent offender. Maybe I was being sensitive. Sorry. 2
OhioHusker Posted October 13 Posted October 13 Brock Lesnar. Monster human being, usually did absolutely nothing. And that's coming from a guy who was a stalling hall of famer.
BloodRound Posted October 13 Posted October 13 Just now, OhioHusker said: Brock Lesnar. Monster human being, usually did absolutely nothing. And that's coming from a guy who was a stalling hall of famer. Imagine trying to show any of his NCAA wrestling to his UFC or WWE fans... 1
Hammerlock3 Posted October 13 Author Posted October 13 1 hour ago, OhioHusker said: Brock Lesnar. Monster human being, usually did absolutely nothing. And that's coming from a guy who was a stalling hall of famer. are you sure his action figure status doesn't translate to unfair expectations. I've only seen like 4 Lesnar matches to be honest. Are we sure he did nothing by HWY standards? "Half measures are a coward's form of insanity."
OhioHusker Posted October 13 Posted October 13 11 minutes ago, Hammerlock3 said: are you sure his action figure status doesn't translate to unfair expectations. I've only seen like 4 Lesnar matches to be honest. Are we sure he did nothing by HWY standards? He didn't do much. Talked a huge game. Don't me wrong, I wouldn't have been beating down the door to wrestle him.
Caveira Posted October 13 Posted October 13 13 hours ago, BruceyB said: I was originally trying to keep from naming anyone specific, but apparently that was a mistake. Caveira repeatedly grasps for anything he can to slight PSU in anyway possible. Just reread his post that led to this. "Cstall is 100% the worst 4 timer (5 NCAAs I don't acknowledge)." He is not alone in this, but probably the most frequent offender. Maybe I was being sensitive. Sorry. How many 4:5 timers bonused less than 25% of their ncaa opponents.
BruceyB Posted October 13 Posted October 13 8 minutes ago, Caveira said: How many 4:5 timers bonused less than 25% of their ncaa opponents. Well, ladies and gentlemen.. there you have it. Caveria, you tell me. How many 4-5 timers bonused less than 25% of their opponents? How many?
Hammerlock3 Posted October 13 Author Posted October 13 If you guys tried to do a good faith summary of the other's opinion on the subject, I doubt you would still think there was a disagreement. 1 "Half measures are a coward's form of insanity."
Le duke Posted October 13 Posted October 13 13 minutes ago, BruceyB said: Well, ladies and gentlemen.. there you have it. Caveria, you tell me. How many 4-5 timers bonused less than 25% of their opponents? How many? Oddly enough, Carter Starocci's NCAA bonus rate is higher than that. 1
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