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Posted
23 minutes ago, Caveira said:

you cannot legally buy a gun anywhere in the United States as a convicted felon

Alabama prohibits possession of a pistol (handgun with barrel under 12 inches) by anyone convicted of a 'crime of violence.' For all other felonies, there is no state-level handgun restriction, and Alabama does not restrict long gun possession for felons. Restoration of pistol rights requires a Certificate of Pardon from the Board of Pardons and Paroles.

Alaska only restricts possession of concealable firearms (handguns) for convicted felons. For a first felony conviction, handgun rights are automatically restored 10 years after unconditional discharge if the offense was not against a person. Nonviolent felons may possess long guns (rifles/shotguns) immediately upon release.

 

Arizona automatically restores most civil rights upon completion of sentence for first felony offenders, but firearm rights must be separately restored by application to the court. For a single non-serious felony, the person may apply 2 years after discharge from probation. For 'dangerous' or multiple felonies, the waiting period is longer.

 

thats 3 states right there that allow felons to legally buy and own guns 

 

Posted
3 minutes ago, braves121 said:

so confidently wrong. 

 

Yes — a felon can get gun rights back, but the process depends on whether the conviction was federal or state, and may require a pardon, expungement, or the newly revived federal restoration process under 18 U.S.C. § 925(c)

12 states automatically restore gun rights after a waiting period after being a convicted felon, and 33 states will restore your gun rights as  a convicted felon if you petition the court. 

that's a lot of states that let convicted felons own guns when you say they can't get one legally anywhere in the US.....

 

A pardoned felon is no longer a felon.  Nice try 

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Posted
4 minutes ago, braves121 said:

so confidently wrong. 

 

Yes — a felon can get gun rights back, but the process depends on whether the conviction was federal or state, and may require a pardon, expungement, or the newly revived federal restoration process under 18 U.S.C. § 925(c)

12 states automatically restore gun rights after a waiting period after being a convicted felon, and 33 states will restore your gun rights as  a convicted felon if you petition the court. 

that's a lot of states that let convicted felons own guns when you say they can't get one legally anywhere in the US.....

 

Yawn.  Your mn knucklehead cannot own a gun…. Nor a cache of guns 

Posted
3 minutes ago, Caveira said:

A pardoned felon is no longer a felon.  Nice try 

you don't need to be pardoned in many states. Like I pointed out earlier Alabama and Alaska don't require pardons for felons to own guns

Posted
Just now, braves121 said:

you don't need to be pardoned in many states. Like I pointed out earlier Alabama and Alaska don't require pardons for felons to own guns

The idiot in mn possessed them illegally.  And will likely face charges for it 

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Posted (edited)
5 minutes ago, Caveira said:

The idiot in mn possessed them illegally.  And will likely face charges for it 

are we back to that guy? You were so adamant felons couldn't legally buy a gun in any state(which they can) I thought that was the topic now

but you do pivot when you are proven wrong so I get it

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Posted
3 minutes ago, braves121 said:

are we back to that guy? You were so adamant felons couldn't legally buy a gun in any state(which they can) I thought that was the topic now

but you do pivot when you are proven wrong so I get it

You can caveat it all you like.    Your caveats are also so fringe it’s not worth debating with you. 

Posted
3 minutes ago, Caveira said:

You can caveat it all you like.    Your caveats are also so fringe it’s not worth debating with you. 

yea dude multiple states with documented clear paths to restore gun rights to convicted felons is fringe what a joke lmao

Posted
3 minutes ago, braves121 said:

yea dude multiple states with documented clear paths to restore gun rights to convicted felons is fringe what a joke lmao

It’s a fringe.   Needing to wait a decade after your conviction or needing a pardon bla bla bla.    Fringe.  

Posted (edited)
6 minutes ago, braves121 said:

yea dude multiple states with documented clear paths to restore gun rights to convicted felons is fringe what a joke lmao

It’s such a small amount of states it really doesn’t count right ?   Thats what we’re told about trans kids, trans playing women’s sports, crime committed by unlawfuls, voter fraud etc… 

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Posted
10 minutes ago, braves121 said:

yea dude multiple states with documented clear paths to restore gun rights to convicted felons is fringe what a joke lmao

Totally not fringe lol 

Why State Felonies Trigger the Federal Ban
The federal law that bans felons from owning guns is 18 U.S.C. § 922(g)(1). [1]
  • The "One-Year" Rule: The federal statute does not just look for the label "federal felony." Instead, it bans anyone convicted of any crime in any court (state or federal) that is punishable by imprisonment for a term exceeding one year.
  • State Felonies Count: Because almost all state-level felonies carry a maximum potential sentence of more than one year, a state felony conviction automatically triggers this federal restriction.
  • The Commerce Loophole is Closed: Federal prosecutors routinely convict state-level felons of firearm possession by proving the gun or ammunition was manufactured out-of-state. Under federal law, if a gun crossed a state line at any point in its history, it falls under federal jurisdiction. [1]
 
The Exception: When State Restoration Works
Under federal law (18 U.S.C. § 921(a)(20)), a state felony conviction will no longer count toward the federal gun ban if the state has fully restored your civil rights. However, this comes with strict conditions:
  1. Core Civil Rights: The state must have fully restored your right to vote, hold public office, and serve on a jury.
  2. No Gun Restrictions: The state's restoration mechanism must not include any lingering restrictions on firearm possession. (This is why Alaska’s 10-year rule creates a conflict: Alaska restores the right to own long guns but keeps restrictions on handguns, which means federal law still considers the individual fully restricted from possessing any firearm). [1]
 
The Federal Law (18 U.S.C. § 922(g)(1))
The text of the federal statute dictates that it is unlawful for any person:
 
"...who has been convicted in any court of, a crime punishable by imprisonment for a term exceeding one year... to ship or transport in interstate or foreign commerce, or possess in or affecting commerce, any firearm or ammunition; or to receive any firearm or ammunition which has been shipped or transported in interstate or foreign commerce."
 

 
Recent Legal Update (August 2026)
For decades, if a state did not fully restore a felon's civil rights, the federal government provided no alternative pathway to regain gun rights. However, the Department of Justice launched the Federal Firearm Rights Restoration Program. This program establishes an official application process for individuals with non-violent convictions to petition the federal government directly to have their Second Amendment rights reinstated.
Posted
Just now, Caveira said:

Totally not fringe lol 

 

Why State Felonies Trigger the Federal Ban
The federal law that bans felons from owning guns is 18 U.S.C. § 922(g)(1). [1]
  • The "One-Year" Rule: The federal statute does not just look for the label "federal felony." Instead, it bans anyone convicted of any crime in any court (state or federal) that is punishable by imprisonment for a term exceeding one year.
  • State Felonies Count: Because almost all state-level felonies carry a maximum potential sentence of more than one year, a state felony conviction automatically triggers this federal restriction.
  • The Commerce Loophole is Closed: Federal prosecutors routinely convict state-level felons of firearm possession by proving the gun or ammunition was manufactured out-of-state. Under federal law, if a gun crossed a state line at any point in its history, it falls under federal jurisdiction. [1]
 
The Exception: When State Restoration Works
Under federal law (18 U.S.C. § 921(a)(20)), a state felony conviction will no longer count toward the federal gun ban if the state has fully restored your civil rights. However, this comes with strict conditions:
  1. Core Civil Rights: The state must have fully restored your right to vote, hold public office, and serve on a jury.
  2. No Gun Restrictions: The state's restoration mechanism must not include any lingering restrictions on firearm possession. (This is why Alaska’s 10-year rule creates a conflict: Alaska restores the right to own long guns but keeps restrictions on handguns, which means federal law still considers the individual fully restricted from possessing any firearm). [1]
 
The Federal Law (18 U.S.C. § 922(g)(1))
The text of the federal statute dictates that it is unlawful for any person:
 
"...who has been convicted in any court of, a crime punishable by imprisonment for a term exceeding one year... to ship or transport in interstate or foreign commerce, or possess in or affecting commerce, any firearm or ammunition; or to receive any firearm or ammunition which has been shipped or transported in interstate or foreign commerce."
 

 
Recent Legal Update (August 2026)
For decades, if a state did not fully restore a felon's civil rights, the federal government provided no alternative pathway to regain gun rights. However, the Department of Justice launched the Federal Firearm Rights Restoration Program. This program establishes an official application process for individuals with non-violent convictions to petition the federal government directly to have their Second Amendment rights reinstated.

you do realize a federal ban doesn't mean anything right? this falls under the states rights group. Even though Marijuana is federally legal, many states have legalized it. The same goes for restoring gun rights. gotta love our Republic its the best there is where your local government gives you more rights than big federal government so they can essentially tell them fuck off

Posted (edited)
2 minutes ago, braves121 said:

you do realize a federal ban doesn't mean anything right? this falls under the states rights group. Even though Marijuana is federally legal, many states have legalized it. The same goes for restoring gun rights. gotta love our Republic its the best there is where your local government gives you more rights than big federal government so they can essentially tell them fuck off

Under the Supremacy Clause of the U.S. Constitution (Article VI, Clause 2), federal law overrides state law when there is a direct conflict, meaning the federal felon firearm ban remains fully enforceable by federal authorities regardless of state-level rights.

so to use your words.  The Feds can tell the states to fuck off.   And they will win if they want to 

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Posted

You do bad, you get bad.   Imprisonment is a violation of constitutional rights.   Well, the fact you were convicted means you violated someone's constitutional rights and therefore yours are now greatly restricted.   You do bad, you get bad.   Simple as that. 

mspart

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Posted
1 hour ago, 1032004 said:

Correct.

@Caveira is an antisemite because he said some Muslim countries refuse to wrestle “the Jews,” but it’s just Israel.

@Caveira is a racist because he said “there’s no way 40% of blacks have ID”

@Caveira is an Islamaphobe because he said “there is no Islamism, only radical islamism”


unlike @Caveira because he’s a liar, I back up my statements.  Glad I could be of service.

 

wait so someone won't use the word jews b/c they hate jews so much.. and @Caveira noticed this and that makes him the bad guy, not the people who wont use the word, but the person who noticed

 

he is giving you democrat talking points about blacks: saying blacks can't get ID which is why ID is racist.  again, the actual racist act is not racist.. its that he noticed the racist act

 

and he is wrong about islam. there is no radical, there is no islam, there is only islam... erdogan has said this over and over.

and its true. 

 

you never back up your statements you just ask the same questions in one big circle jerk after another

never answering anything

Posted
50 minutes ago, braves121 said:

so confidently wrong. 

 

Yes — a felon can get gun rights back, but the process depends on whether the conviction was federal or state, and may require a pardon, expungement, or the newly revived federal restoration process under 18 U.S.C. § 925(c)

12 states automatically restore gun rights after a waiting period after being a convicted felon, and 33 states will restore your gun rights as  a convicted felon if you petition the court. 

that's a lot of states that let convicted felons own guns when you say they can't get one legally anywhere in the US.....

 

so he is right.

and you concede. good to hear. 

Posted
37 minutes ago, braves121 said:

are we back to that guy? You were so adamant felons couldn't legally buy a gun in any state(which they can) I thought that was the topic now

but you do pivot when you are proven wrong so I get it

well, you know, that's what the original argument you were having was about. i know your deflection takes you on all kinds of birdwalks, but you know..

 

Posted
24 minutes ago, JimmySpeaks said:

It’s such a small amount of states it really doesn’t count right ?   Thats what we’re told about trans kids, trans playing women’s sports, crime committed by unlawfuls, voter fraud etc… 

omg how dare you use their logic against them 

Posted
21 minutes ago, Caveira said:

Totally not fringe lol 

 

Why State Felonies Trigger the Federal Ban
The federal law that bans felons from owning guns is 18 U.S.C. § 922(g)(1). [1]
  • The "One-Year" Rule: The federal statute does not just look for the label "federal felony." Instead, it bans anyone convicted of any crime in any court (state or federal) that is punishable by imprisonment for a term exceeding one year.
  • State Felonies Count: Because almost all state-level felonies carry a maximum potential sentence of more than one year, a state felony conviction automatically triggers this federal restriction.
  • The Commerce Loophole is Closed: Federal prosecutors routinely convict state-level felons of firearm possession by proving the gun or ammunition was manufactured out-of-state. Under federal law, if a gun crossed a state line at any point in its history, it falls under federal jurisdiction. [1]
 
The Exception: When State Restoration Works
Under federal law (18 U.S.C. § 921(a)(20)), a state felony conviction will no longer count toward the federal gun ban if the state has fully restored your civil rights. However, this comes with strict conditions:
  1. Core Civil Rights: The state must have fully restored your right to vote, hold public office, and serve on a jury.
  2. No Gun Restrictions: The state's restoration mechanism must not include any lingering restrictions on firearm possession. (This is why Alaska’s 10-year rule creates a conflict: Alaska restores the right to own long guns but keeps restrictions on handguns, which means federal law still considers the individual fully restricted from possessing any firearm). [1]
 
The Federal Law (18 U.S.C. § 922(g)(1))
The text of the federal statute dictates that it is unlawful for any person:
 
"...who has been convicted in any court of, a crime punishable by imprisonment for a term exceeding one year... to ship or transport in interstate or foreign commerce, or possess in or affecting commerce, any firearm or ammunition; or to receive any firearm or ammunition which has been shipped or transported in interstate or foreign commerce."
 

 
Recent Legal Update (August 2026)
For decades, if a state did not fully restore a felon's civil rights, the federal government provided no alternative pathway to regain gun rights. However, the Department of Justice launched the Federal Firearm Rights Restoration Program. This program establishes an official application process for individuals with non-violent convictions to petition the federal government directly to have their Second Amendment rights reinstated.

this wont work

actual law means nothing to leftists 

Posted
18 minutes ago, Scouts Honor said:

so he is right.

and you concede. good to hear. 

Well I’ll just point to the fact that Alabama and Alaska are in fact in the US, and allows felons to legally buy rifles right after conviction proves his statement that a felon can’t legally buy a gun anywhere in the US is false

Posted
No, a felon generally cannot buy or possess a gun in Alabama because federal law bans all felons from owning firearms, and state restrictions also apply. [1, 2]
Federal Law vs. Alabama State Law
  • Federal Law: Prohibits anyone convicted of a crime punishable by imprisonment for over a year (any felony) from buying, owning, or transporting firearms or ammunition. This applies regardless of whether the crime was violent or non-violent. [1, 2, 3]
  • Alabama Law: Prohibits firearm and pistol possession if an individual:
    • Has a conviction for any felony within the past five years.
    • Has three or more felony convictions at any time (from different dates/charges).
    • Was convicted of a violent crime or an attempt to commit one.
    • Was convicted of a misdemeanor crime of domestic violence or is under a domestic violence protection order. [1, 2, 3]
Posted
In Alaska, a convicted felon generally cannot own or possess a concealable firearm like a handgun, but may own a rifle or shotgun if 10 years have passed since their unconditional discharge. [1, 2]
Alaska State Rules
  • Concealable Firearms: State law bans felons from owning or possessing handguns or concealable firearms. [1, 2]
  • The 10-Year Rule: The ban on concealable firearms can end after 10 or more years have passed since completing an unconditional discharge from the felony sentence (including probation and parole), provided the felony was not an offense against a person. [1, 2]
Posted
7 minutes ago, braves121 said:

Well I’ll just point to the fact that Alabama and Alaska are in fact in the US, and allows felons to legally buy rifles right after conviction proves his statement that a felon can’t legally buy a gun anywhere in the US is false

Every single communist regime has taken away guns immediately.  You’re pro communist.  Your argument makes no sense 

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