currently

[mspart]

7 minutes ago, JimmySpeaks said:

That is flat out scary.  

That is flat out what Huxley and Orwell predicted.   Totalitarianism across the board.   You will be taken care of, don't worry, unless you think wrong, then you won't have anything more to worry about. 

mspart

[Offthemat]

3 hours ago, Scouts Honor said:

wow this could go under socialists.. but not america yet

in america they just monitor above $600 transactions

 

Something similar has been proposed in our own congress, by dimocrax, no doubt.   I believe it was a Clinton plan. 

[Offthemat]

The plan, as I remember it, was to confiscate all 401ks and similar savings and retirement funds, and pay the original investors a social security type monthly dividend with the gov’t accruing the leftover upon the contributor’s demise.

[Scouts Honor]

what right does anyone have to the money that I saved, more than anyone in my family? 

 

these people are such idiots. 

[braves121]

7 minutes ago, Offthemat said:

The plan, as I remember it, was to confiscate all 401ks and similar savings and retirement funds, and pay the original investors a social security type monthly dividend with the gov’t accruing the leftover upon the contributor’s demise.

Bill Clinton never proposed, endorsed, or pursued any plan to confiscate all 401(k)s or private retirement accounts.

There is nothing in Clinton administration policy, speeches, legislation, or budget proposals that resembles a plan to nationalize private retirement accounts or convert them into government annuities. This includes the Department of Labor, Treasury, and congressional activity during 1993–2001.

During the 2008 financial crisis, House Democrats held hearings on retirement security. Economist Teresa Ghilarducci testified and proposed a new type of government-managed retirement plan called a Guaranteed Retirement Account (GRA).

Her proposal did NOT confiscate existing 401(k)s,

 

Her plan suggested:

• Creating a new government retirement program

• Mandatory contributions

• A guaranteed return

• Allowing people to roll over 401(k)s voluntarily

But no confiscation, no forced conversion, and no Clinton involvement.

[JimmySpeaks]

9 minutes ago, Scouts Honor said:

what right does anyone have to the money that I saved, more than anyone in my family? 

 

these people are such idiots. 

They don’t. But dems think they do.  These nut jobs are ruining the world. 

[JimmySpeaks]

3 minutes ago, braves121 said:

Bill Clinton never proposed, endorsed, or pursued any plan to confiscate all 401(k)s or private retirement accounts.

There is nothing in Clinton administration policy, speeches, legislation, or budget proposals that resembles a plan to nationalize private retirement accounts or convert them into government annuities. This includes the Department of Labor, Treasury, and congressional activity during 1993–2001.

During the 2008 financial crisis, House Democrats held hearings on retirement security. Economist Teresa Ghilarducci testified and proposed a new type of government-managed retirement plan called a Guaranteed Retirement Account (GRA).

Her proposal did NOT confiscate existing 401(k)s,

 

Her plan suggested:

• Creating a new government retirement program

• Mandatory contributions

• A guaranteed return

• Allowing people to roll over 401(k)s voluntarily

But no confiscation, no forced conversion, and no Clinton involvement.

How do You think the DSA feels about it?    

[Scouts Honor]

 

[Caveira]

3 hours ago, braves121 said:

Bill Clinton never proposed, endorsed, or pursued any plan to confiscate all 401(k)s or private retirement accounts.

There is nothing in Clinton administration policy, speeches, legislation, or budget proposals that resembles a plan to nationalize private retirement accounts or convert them into government annuities. This includes the Department of Labor, Treasury, and congressional activity during 1993–2001.

During the 2008 financial crisis, House Democrats held hearings on retirement security. Economist Teresa Ghilarducci testified and proposed a new type of government-managed retirement plan called a Guaranteed Retirement Account (GRA).

Her proposal did NOT confiscate existing 401(k)s,

 

Her plan suggested:

• Creating a new government retirement program

• Mandatory contributions

• A guaranteed return

• Allowing people to roll over 401(k)s voluntarily

But no confiscation, no forced conversion, and no Clinton involvement.

Ai slop 

[braves121]

7 minutes ago, Caveira said:

Ai slop 

Huh? Every other post you make is ai

[Caveira]

10 minutes ago, braves121 said:

Huh? Every other post you make is ai

I just point out our (left) standard hypocrisy.  Your ai slip is cool .   Everyone else’s is trash 

[1032004]

20 minutes ago, Caveira said:

Ai slop 

The irony 

[Caveira]

2 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

The irony 

Yall shit on ai posts when you don’t agree with them.  Your ai slop 

[Scouts Honor]

the brilliance

 

[Offthemat]

4 hours ago, braves121 said:

Bill Clinton never proposed, endorsed, or pursued any plan to confiscate all 401(k)s or private retirement accounts.

There is nothing in Clinton administration policy, speeches, legislation, or budget proposals that resembles a plan to nationalize private retirement accounts or convert them into government annuities. This includes the Department of Labor, Treasury, and congressional activity during 1993–2001.

During the 2008 financial crisis, House Democrats held hearings on retirement security. Economist Teresa Ghilarducci testified and proposed a new type of government-managed retirement plan called a Guaranteed Retirement Account (GRA).

Her proposal did NOT confiscate existing 401(k)s,

 

Her plan suggested:

• Creating a new government retirement program

• Mandatory contributions

• A guaranteed return

• Allowing people to roll over 401(k)s voluntarily

But no confiscation, no forced conversion, and no Clinton involvement.

If you think this is in any way a refutation of what I said, let me inform you that it is not.  I didn’t refer to any search, I remember it.  If you were to do a query into the proposition that puerto rico and Washington DC be made states, that the electoral college and senate be abolished, or the presidency, you might find a similar report, even though we’ve all heard them discussed.  

[1032004]

1 minute ago, Offthemat said:

If you think this is in any way a refutation of what I said, let me inform you that it is not.  I didn’t refer to any search, I remember it.  If you were to do a query into the proposition that puerto rico and Washington DC be made states, that the electoral college and senate be abolished, or the presidency, you might find a similar report, even though we’ve all heard them discussed.  

Good strategy!  Defend your lies by just saying it was “as you remember it”

[Offthemat]

17 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

Good strategy!  Defend your lies by just saying it was “as you remember it”

Shove it, SFB.

[Scouts Honor]

this could go under you dont hate the media enough

but it describes the leftists currently perfectly

 

[1032004]

14 minutes ago, Scouts Honor said:

this could go under you dont hate the media enough

but it describes the leftists currently perfectly

 

The accusations against Paxton are about far more than just “comments.”  Hey @Bigbrog we got a POS defender over here!

[Bigbrog]

14 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

The accusations against Paxton are about far more than just “comments.”  Hey @Bigbrog we got a POS defender over here!

Seriously guy... what is your deal??  You get in petty arguments with almost every one on here and you wanting to keep pulling me into them is weird...get a life

[1032004]

2 minutes ago, Bigbrog said:

Seriously guy... what is your deal??  You get in petty arguments with almost every one on here and you wanting to keep pulling me into them is weird...get a life

I enjoy calling out hypocrites.  Like you.

[Bigbrog]

Just now, 1032004 said:

I enjoy calling out hypocrites.  Like you.

You are a joke

[1032004]

10 minutes ago, Bigbrog said:

You are a joke

You refuse to call out POS behavior from the right.

[Scouts Honor]

 

[Scouts Honor]