Joe Sealey

[Bacanator]

1 hour ago, scourge165 said:
*Drew Hildebrandt also transferred in after Wrestling elsewhere(god knows if I miss this, I'm going to get a snide comment from a particular Iowa fan who likes to make the strawman argument that "Penn State doesn't take transfers.")

You forgot Bernard Truax IV

[GreatWhiteNorth]

@scourge165 There's an old parable about how the poor think being rich must be easy - because they don't realize how it could be anything but. While the rich find their own position to be difficult. And, more importantly, that neither realizes the irony of it all.

Are you familiar with it at all?

[bnwtwg]

16 hours ago, Hilton Head Joe said:

I got a feeling Sealey is gonna make the world team at 163

[nhs67]

11 hours ago, scourge165 said:

I don't know. I'm also not saying he IS 4th string... just that he COULD be. I'm taking it to the extreme. He's proven he can Wrestle with anyone, but I don't think anyone would find it hard to believe that Duke or Kasak can beat him... and James is a top 3 Wrestler in this class(just see his result with Melvin Miller and then look at how competitive Miller was with Duke). So I'm not placing him 4th. Just more highlighting the talent they have at '57 right now. 

And why does he stay? Maybe... because he's got a chance to make the world team at 163. Maybe he thinks that's the best place for him to develop? Maybe he thinks he can be a world champ AND he's got a big NIL deal because he was so highly touted. 

I really don't know. You have a small window to compete in College. I would transfer if I were him, but I can't speak to why he's not doing so. I don't know anything about the program other than guys stay there when they could likely AA elsewhere. The roster limit is going to have to have an impact.... I'd think. 

Why isn't Desmond leaving if this 5-5 comes to fruition? I suppose he could slide in at '41 in another year. 
Look at their '27 class;
#2 Landon Sidun (125/133)- He was going to slide perfectly in after Lillendahl. A RS year, then a Sidun would step in. Now if Lillendahl gets 5 years, that RS is going to cost Sidun a year as well as Lillendahl's own 5th year(assuming he wins). 
#6 Grey Burnett (133)-
#8 Clinton Shepherd (157/165)
#10 Gavin Mangano (149)
#94 James Whitbred (165)
#100 William Soto (125)

And then you have ANOTHER '57/'65  who is a top 10 P4P recruit. 

Does this change things?

I actually think this would lead to MORE transferring. Just take this Sidun. I don't know anything about him but what I can read on his resume, but #2 P4P, he's dominate in PA... sounds like a kid who'll be ready to go right out of the gate. 

Would it make more sense for him to go to... Va Tech and then transfer in 2 years to PSU? That kinda goes against what PSU does which is take HS recruits... for the most part, some exceptions would be Welsh or Messenbrink, but even the, they're young and have 3-4 years left. Dean is the only guy I can think of who came in with 1 year(which became 2 with Covid). But will they now adjust? And no school is going to turn down a National Finalist with 3 years who wants to come(I can't and won't speak to how much recruiting is done behind the scenes or how much "tampering" there is).
Edit 
*Drew Hildebrandt also transferred in after Wrestling elsewhere(god knows if I miss this, I'm going to get a snide comment from a particular Iowa fan who likes to make the strawman argument that "Penn State doesn't take transfers.")

Okie State is going to be in the same position. Iowa, Ohio State to lesser degrees. But this is going to create a "problem" for the Cowboys and PSU in the immediate future. 

Missing another CMU guy in there in Keener.

[Hilton Head Joe]

4 hours ago, bnwtwg said:

I will come back here after trials. Not saying he is the favorite but I can see him winning it. I told all you smucks on this board he was beating Kasak. The outrage that caused  Will Mesenbrink be at WTT? That would make things really interesting! Sealey is staying at PSU for reasons no one knows. It is starting to make sense if he is the starting 165 next year. 

[scourge165]

1 hour ago, Hilton Head Joe said:

I will come back here after trials. Not saying he is the favorite but I can see him winning it. I told all you smucks on this board he was beating Kasak. The outrage that caused  Will Mesenbrink be at WTT? That would make things really interesting! Sealey is staying at PSU for reasons no one knows. It is starting to make sense if he is the starting 165 next year. 

Ok, and again, Facundo beat Haines and I'm pretty sure Messenbrink in the "off-season." 

Folkstyle vs Freestyle=Big difference. 

But now we're saying he's going to be taking the spot of... maybe the most dominant Wrestler in the last decade(at least up there with Lee, Stevenson... we'll see how he finishes up)?

Facundo then cut down to '57, lost in the Wrestle-off and... sat.

 

Sealey may win. I'd still probably pick Duke and Messenbrink(at least). I wouldn't be putting money against Kasak or James either. 

[JMill]

My guess is Mesenbrink to 174 for PSU to beat their team score record again… not that they care about such trivial things.