Ds on crime

[braves121]

2 minutes ago, mspart said:

Soft on crime creates more crime.   

How?    Perps walk to do more crime.   Others are less inhibited to do crime.   

Hard on crime reduces crime.   

How?   Perps don't get let out in the streets, they are locked up.   Others stay inhibited because they don't want to be in the pokey. 

What do we want, perps walking around or perps not walking around?

mspart

Yea soft on crime people are not helping society, we have a republican county attorney here in maricopa and they are committing mal practice and harm with their job like many of these leftist prosecutors 

[Caveira]

16 minutes ago, braves121 said:

Have you ever considered running for office or getting a government position or organizing to actually change these things that you spend so much of your day posting? You are very passionate harping against anything the left try’s so why don’t you fix it?

No I have not.   I’m not sure I’m a believer that government can or ever will un-corrupt itself 

could you imagine professionally dealing with con men and cheats all day every day?

Edited April 21 by Caveira

[braves121]

6 minutes ago, Caveira said:

No I have not.   I’m not sure I’m a believer that government can or ever will un-corrupt itself 

could you imagine professionally dealing with con men and cheats all day every day?

If it’s a moot point as to say then why do you spend so much energy getting yourself worked up at the left every single day of your life? Isn’t there like something better you could do with that time and energy?

[Caveira]

Just now, braves121 said:

If it’s a moot point as to say then why do you spend so much energy getting yourself worked up at the left every single day of your life? Isn’t there like something better you could do with that time and energy?

I’m not worked up 

[braves121]

6 minutes ago, Caveira said:

I’m not worked up 

Alright take out the worked up part. If it’s a moot point as you say then why do you spend so much energy posting and talking about the left every single day of your life? Isn’t there like something better you could do with that time and energy?

[Caveira]

2 minutes ago, braves121 said:

Alright take out the worked up part. If it’s a moot point as you say then why do you spend so much energy posting and talking about the left every single day of your life? Isn’t there like something better you could do with that time and energy?

I’m just fine.  
 

Why do you dislike when people point out the D party is excessively weak on crime?

[braves121]

1 minute ago, Caveira said:

I’m just fine.  
 

Why do you dislike when people point out the D party is excessively weak on crime?

I don’t care abouT people calling them out because it’s true. There are soft on crime republicans here in Arizona and other places but that doesn’t fit your narrative so you don’t bring it up 

[JimmySpeaks]

1 minute ago, braves121 said:

I don’t care abouT people calling them out because it’s true. There are soft on crime republicans here in Arizona and other places but that doesn’t fit your narrative so you don’t bring it up 

Pot/Kettle.  How can you not see that? 

[braves121]

3 minutes ago, JimmySpeaks said:

Pot/Kettle.  How can you not see that? 

I mean sure if you wanna compare me critiquing both parties a few times a week compared to cav posting multiple times day starting multiple threads about democrats and call that pot calling the kettle black you aren’t a very smart person 

Edited April 21 by braves121

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[mspart]

I hope the moral of this story is not to save someone's life.   But like hitchhiking a few bad incidents will keep people from helping.   

mspart

[Offthemat]

1 hour ago, mspart said:

I hope the moral of this story is not to save someone's life.   But like hitchhiking a few bad incidents will keep people from helping.   

mspart

Evidently it happened seven years ago, I don’t know why it came up now but here’s an article from ‘22.  Just shows that crazy stuff has been going on for quite awhile.  
 

FOND DU LAC, Wis. —

In May of 2019, a man being treated by medical crews outside an Appleton transit center suddenly opened fire on first responders. 

Firefighter Mitch Lundgaard was killed.

The shooter, Ruben Houston, died in a shootout with police. 

Now, three years later, the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel reports a mistake made just days before the shooting allowed Houston to post a reduced bail and to be out on the street.

"That should never have been allowed to happen," Fond du Lac County District Attorney Eric Toney told WISN 12 on Monday.

He said a judge reduced Houston's bail from the $5,000 requested by his office to $500 because neither the district attorney nor the court was aware Houston had a long criminal history.

How did that happen, WISN 12's Kent Wainscott asked Toney.

"What we didn't know at the time was that a judge had allowed him to change his name all the way back in 2011. We actually didn't learn that information until last week," Toney said.

Houston simply added an "o" to the name Huston. 

Name changes can be easily found in online records, but in this case, apparently, no one found it. 

Toney said it never showed up in the case files.

Neither did Houston's past felony record, including time spent in federal prison.

Something else that's putting the case back in the spotlight is politics. 

Toney is running for Wisconsin Attorney General.

He was among those who have called on Gov. Tony Evers to fire Milwaukee County District Attorney John Chisholm.

WISN 12 reported about the reduced bail and Toney commented on it in 2019.

But Houston's name change never came to light. 

Now with a political race at hand, the campaign manager for his Republican primary opponent, Adam Jarchow, blasted Toney saying, "This level of hypocrisy is unacceptable in our politicians." 

Toney disputed that charge and called the Houston case "a tragic constellation of events."

"This is a hole in our system that must be fixed to make sure tragic events like this like ever happen again," he told WISN 12.

Toney said he wants the state legislature to place stricter requirements on judges to consider criminal history before allowing someone to change their name.

https://www.wisn.com/article/wisconsin-man-free-on-500-bail-fatally-shot-appleton-firefighter-in-2019/39694208

Edited April 23 by Offthemat

[mspart]

Don't you think fingerprinting him would have resolved this?  They fingerprint everyone don't they?   Apparently not.

Trivia - Mark Twain wrote the first book that used fingerprinting to identify people called Puddnhead Wilson.   I thought you erudite readers would like to know. 

mspart

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anything is justified now

 

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[Offthemat]

1 hour ago, Scouts Honor said:

 

Bit by bit it’s turning around. 

[Caveira]

Is 8-10 million dollars of fentynal a lot?    Why do they allow these trashy open air drug markets to exist?

 

 

[Offthemat]

11 minutes ago, Caveira said:

Is 8-10 million dollars of fentynal a lot?    Why do they allow these trashy open air drug markets to exist?

 

 

“Fentanyl fold,” I knew there had to be a term for it. 

[Caveira]

1 minute ago, Offthemat said:

“Fentanyl fold,” I knew there had to be a term for it. 

Those Sinaloa cartel dudes are just nice farmers right ?   Trying to make their way in the world 

[Scouts Honor]

it's not a crime.. i count at least 4? 

 

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[Offthemat]

28 minutes ago, Scouts Honor said:

 

The criminal justice system is broken. 

[Offthemat]

Perp is an illegal.