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But but but I have no interest in that level of detail. Unless of course I want to.

LOL...I know. I just saw a post where Duke beats Taylor and someone is talking about how "common" it is for HS Wrestlers to beat NCAA Champs now. It's not. It's happened a few times in recent years with THIS group of studs, but it's not "common." I'd even take it back a year and start with the '24 class. '24, '25, '26 are just special groups that are going to make the NCAAs real fun the next few years(not that they aren't anyway).

I've made my point clear. Twice. That Boeing can't fairly be blamed for being late or over budget when they have received change orders from the client. These changes cost more money and take more time. (I've now made it three times.) Which President(s) requested the changes you ask? From what I have gathered, the change order requests were made primarily by Trump. But - I haven't spent a great deal of time thinking about that or researching it. Biden may well have made a number of requests as well. That is all beyond the scope of the point I was making. But, if you would like to run that information down, I would be interested in reading what you find out.

The list of athletes for the Ulaanbaatar Open has come out. Iran has sent some guys in both FS and GR. 70kg: Mohammad Ali Amouzad and Aliakbar Fazli 74kg: Hossein Abouzari, Amir Mohammad Yazdani and Younes Emami 79kg: Fariborz Babaei 97kg: Ahmad Bazri 55kg: Pouya Dadmarz and Armin Shamsipour 60: Ali Ahmadi Vafa 63: Mohammad Keshtkar 67: Gholamreza Abdevali, Mohammad Reza Gholami and Mohammad Mehdi Gholampour 72: Danial Sohrabi 77: Alireza Abdevali and Ahoura Bouveiri Piani 82: Ghloamreza Farrokhi, Mohammad Ali Geraei and Mohammad Naghousi 87: Alireza Mohmedi 97: Alireza Mirzajani, Amir Hossein Moradiyan and Mohammad Seydi Avendi 130: Amir Hossein Abdevali and Morteza Alghosi I'm not sure why we didn't send more FS guys considering greco sent guys in all weights. Its nice to see new faces in the greco scene (I think they are prepping the junior guys) whilst our freestyle coaches are being incredibly opaque with how the selection process is.

I have no interest in any of that level of detail, but if you do - have at it. Knock yourself out. The simple fact is that change orders consume time and money. To blame them solely on Boeing just isn't right.

Bundles of hate lashing out at others because they have differing opinions is just not a great idea. People will always have differing opinions. Because of their varied experiences, varied perspectives, varied priorities, and (let's be honest) varied levels of intelligence. Tack on to that the fact that we're all imperfect - and we'll always live in some version of opinion soup. Social media makes it so easy to lash out and provides little reason not to. More importantly, those that run the social media sites make "tons and tons" of money by doing so. Without the bundles of hate, people wouldn't tune in to the sites in anywhere near the large numbers that they do. Outrage is addictive - an addiction that generates a lot of revenue. My opinions include believing that on J6 Trump's speech was inciting violence. Telling people to march down to the Capitol and "fight like hell" didn't seem like a non-violent directive to me. They ended up fighting like hell, just as instructed. That's just my opinion. Like it or not, agree with it or not, but there's no reason for anyone to flip out over it if you have a different opinion. Just different opinions. Another opinion of mine is that taking over buildings and threatening other students does not constitute legitimate protest. As you say, those are the actions of bundles of hate. Not level-headed serious-minded protesters. They bothered a lot of people and accomplished nothing. But I'm not going to get unhinged over it.... or, worse yet, let other people try to manipulate me to try to get me to get unhinged over it - or perhaps to vote for them. I see a lot of things that need fixing just about every direction I look. But stomping, screaming, and lashing out won't fix a single one of those things. It just makes each one that much worse (Even if it is "normal" social media behavior.) IMO, the 8647 post was dumb. And trying to sell it as some kind of huge serious threat is just more useless stomping.

There are insufficient goat quotes related to freestyle and cstar because there are literally no quotes about him in freestyle cause he hasn’t won anything of value in freestyle.

Bruce Baumgartner won his first World Championship medal, a bronze, at the 1983 World Wrestling Championships in Kiev, Russia we are saying Cstar hasn’t “peaked” in freestyle because he is young. Mind you posted like 10 Americans who won gold before him age wise. Are you comparing Cstar not even getting to the “final” match for the qualifier vs Bruce winning an actual world medal when he was 22? Mind you they have what like 16 bronze medals per bracket now vs actually having to be top 3 back in the good old days.

You added quotes about an entirely different topic. Not such a great memory after all.

A lot can change between now and then, absolutely. This is just a guess based on current commits/roster configuration. Braeden Davis will likely still be on the roster in 2028 assuming he redshirts either this year or next depending on the plan with Ono and Blaze.

Bruce was born in 1960. He won his first full strength, major tournament at a month shy of 26 (1986 worlds). He did win the Olympics at age 23, but that was a boycott year and more like the pan ams. He wasn't good enough to win with a full field in the first half of his 20s. I'd say Bruce's prime was at the ages of 31-35. That's when he had his best career results.

This sounds awesome. Keep on … we’ll keep on whatever your doing cause it’s boss level

I posted quotes. I added yours after the fact. He isn’t top tier goat. That is all.

Just stop making stuff up then claiming that you remember "y'all" said it.

I can’t edit the last post with all the quotes so I’ll or this on their in retrospect …And if you are trying to say there is no way Starocci is in the conversation about the Mr. Rushmore of college wreatling, then you are a fool.

How many more Kyles...

Not sure I care. To often. They will say … so and so won ncaa titles etc. but his freestyle adds this or that dimension. Or this or that # of world championships. Just need to keep those that don’t belong on Mount Rushmore off of it. If you agree he is not the goat than we are in agreement. Penn state fans need constant reminders that wrestling didn’t start a few years ago.

What you know, but will not say, is that every single one of those quotes is about college wrestling. And if you are trying to say there is no way Starocci is in the conversation about the Mr. Rushmore of college wreatling, then you are a fool. Still no one has every said Starocci is on the Mt. Rushmore of wrestling.

What’s telling is anyone on the left commenting on why this was a horrible situation. And why the folks covering it up are horrible people etc. crickets says all it needs to say.

It's incredible how lost Jesus must be if so many people find him. Sounds like he's pretty bad at hiding.

Incorrect. Blaze made Final X last year.

Why did Coach Manning post this lol?

I need to make sure Mount Rushmore keeps the actual best wrestlers ever on it. That is my motivation. If you leave it to the psu faithful they will put their peeps on it even if undeserving. I spent 5 mins looking. No more no less here are some quotes. Some are interesting as I never thought prime caliber young cstall would wrestle old legacy dake but you get what you get::: I don't get why he's behind Dake…. I think it would give Starocci an argument for greatest college wrestler of all time…. So then he's behind I believe just Cael…. I think Cael is the GOAT but Dake is right up there…… I would not argue Dake is "right up there," what I would disagree is that Starocci isn't. …. It just occurred to me that CStar has basically had three undefeated seasons already, looking for a fourth (aside from injury defaults). Would be Cael-like…..

PJ Duke is really really good