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Was on his way to be a 3 time champ and 4 time AA but they nerfed him by changing the rules. Missed out on his 3rd natty by barely losing to Yianni. Then lost the chance to be a 4 time AA by getting pinned by Chad Red.

Yah, I'm sure that constantly being around guns his entire childhood had zero contribution, lmfao.

OK. Thank you for your candor.

You might need a little more data before you can blame his upbringing for his behavior. He was a grown man. 22 years old. He had to make a lot of very poor decisions over time to end up where he ended up. His parents surely didn't make those decisions. It's called personal accountability. At 22 you and you alone are accountable for your behavior.

Muslim is a race?

Philosophically what would be more likely to influence someone to commit this act? A family background rooted in faith (in anything), community and service, lawfulness, and achievement. Or A group who burns buildings, creates no law zones, incites violence and riots weekly, lives online in a bubble of demonization and violent rhetoric and labels anyone with a different opinion as evil?

I blame their entire disadvantaged background. Yes, that includes often not having a dad, but many other disadvantages too. I don't blame kids for their sometimes crappy upbringing.

Were your parents also full of crap and lived in a fantasy world where they convinced themselves they are the hardest working person and the most intelligent person alive 110%? But in reality they sit on an anonymous message board 90% of the day every day because they can't get their rocks off otherwise? Do you also blame inner city kids for not having parent's in their lives when they commit horrendous acts? No you don't so do us all a favor and cut the BS for once.

Yes, and I'm sure his upbringing had nothing to do with how he turned out.

Thank you for providing a real world example of excuse making to prove my point. Appreciated. (Sorry figuring out how to quote add. That was a thanks to RV)

You left out a few things. He was very sick mentally deranged individual. He was full of hate. He had been radicalized into a monster. He was a left winger that ate up all the garbage the left could feed him.

Seeing all the hypocrisy, dishonesty, bigotry and love of violence in his family undoubtedly fueled the fire. I'd be angry if I grew up like that. Unfortunately, he handled it poorly. I've said it many times. Watch out for all extreme Christians or people w these backgrounds.

Excellent. You hit the nail on the head I'm waiting for RV's rebuttal.

I don’t think he was really super racist against blacks. Muslims, yes.

Turned into a monster by reddit & other leftist antifa online worlds. The bullets were references to songs popular with antifa groups. This is what happens when the left builds disillusionment in young people VS building structure, belief in community, and working hard to achieve realistic goals. Telling people feelings are more important than the truth, you are owed succes, failure is everyone else's fault, and an evil cabal is holding you down is what causes radicalism (be it in 1930s Europe, the middle east, or in some circles here today).

I like Dean Heil but hated watching his matches. I'm betting you will be his only mention.

White cis-male, extremely religious (Christian), right wing and gun loving family. Turned him into a monster.

OK here's my crack in no particular order (except 1) Yianni Diakomihalis Vito Arujau Jacori Teemer (can you tell where I'm from yet?) Kyle Dake Nahshon Garrett Meyer Shapiro Nick Gwizdowski Spencer Lee Dean Heil (very happy to be the first to mention) Zahid Valencia Gable Steveson Kyle Synder Zain Retherford Jason Nolf Chad Red HM Jason Tsirtsis (Shocked that he's been mentioned)

If the wingers weren't going to extremes to use this to their political advantage and showing selective outrage ( as if his life is more important than a liberals) the celebrating would be minimal to non existent. Wingers need to wake up and realize that they instigate most if the negativity from the left. Trump started a civil war.

That's the case for the vast majority of these cases. Trying to kill a famous political person is irrational. We shouldn't expect their reasons for doing so to be rational either.

You seem to know quite a bit about "trolls."

Sounds like Kirk being a real life troll met a trolling counterpart of his. It sounds wonky that he wasn't some kind of left wing activist type, like a bunch of people here hoped, it sounds just plain bizarre. Kind of like when Frank Cali got murdered in his driveway by a QAnon supporter. You can't really make sense of it.

Agree... there is a lot of talent that will be riding the bench the next few years that could be competing and making college wrestling as a whole getter. We are missing out on some of these guys bettering a program, potentially getting on the podium and making brackets much more fun.