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Fair enough! If that's the metric we're using, then Askren was successful. Though...he was also a great boxer by this metric. The quotes are appropriate there as that is DEFINITELY what I said!

I have no clue, maybe he's on what a lot of people go on around 50. Some type of HRT or whatever. A PED, but otherwise legal. My point was the guy has ALWAYS had an incredible gas tank and that...I would bet money his conditioning, his cardio is still likely elite. I don't think when he was in the UFC, he was ever out of shape or gassing. Dana White called him a "bag of milk." So he's never been the biggest or most muscular and that was true when he was the most dominant Wrestler in College for two seasons and bumping up and Wrestling All Americans at 184, but he was NEVER the guy gassing...IMO.

Then does his internet version of hanging up on you. Effeminate.

You really think the requirement during the 30 second tie breakers should be working for a fall? The point of this sport is to control another man. I think a 30 second ride out where you're just trying to prevent them from escaping is fine. If I had my preference, you'd have OT go 1 minute neutral, each get 30 second goes and then repeat, but that takes too much time I guess. But I don't think you need to make the criteria for stalling the exact same in 30 second tie breakers.

That’s his go to stuff. “You bore me” “come back when you have better material” meanwhile his stuff is always the same. Sit on the fence with his TDS

THIS is a really good idea...IMO. I don't like this at all. You're effectively reward the top guy. You eliminate that escape point. I'd propose offering the option. You can EITHER bring them up to their feet, or they can stay down to work for the 1. If you bring them up without giving a point...I guess it's situational, but it'd seem to benefit the top Wrestler.

This

It was on Olympic gold which has more currency. In addition, at his young age he’s also been in a WWE ring, played in an NFL pre-season game, is frequently on television with his bank sponsorship, has many other product sponsors. Not too shabby for a 24 year old.

Hasn’t he admitted to being on roids or something now?

Overindulged again, eh?

Maybe he could have been or maybe not…he beat Gino but certainly didn’t dominate him…has he wrestled any of those guys since? In wrestling, you never know who is THE guy until they actually do it…his resume is very thin imo…he is a two time ncaa champ and world gold medalist which was won with a terrific comeback…that is not GOAT material by many years and many tough matches…that is potential yes but the road is littered with such people

I don't understand the rationale for hitting a guy for stalling on top. It is incongruous with the riding time point incentive. We already make it harder to ride with things like the locked hands rule. If you think it's still too easy, ban certain positions. Riding is controlling and isn't that what folkstyle is about?

And it wasn’t like he won the Olympics in par terre either

please explain…he got taken down …he didnt lose by riding time…they were on their feet almost the entire match no?

This is the problem.

In case you didn’t notice long ago…you bore me. Come back when you have some better material…of your own. Have a good night.

"I'm not the one who brought up Askren, I'm just the guy who keeps arguing about him. Don't come at me, I'm helpless in this situation!"

Just feels, eh?

Kinda hard to track down fraud when 1/3 of the payouts don't have T.A.S. numbers. Thats just a little problematic.

The two best to ever do it (Medved & Satiev) were tall and had length

500M in untracked payments. Unreal.

I wouldn't think you could do that in the tie breaker. The standard for stalling is different. I mean, taking the 4 seconds or 5 seconds off when you're in on a leg or whatever, fine. That could make a substantial difference. But just like riding parallel on top or not working for the turn... the ride out rules are not the same as the first 7 minutes(though they keep changing them, someone could fact check me on that). I don't like this at all. I couldn't breath as well with one in. At least not as well. I just...didn't like them. So...you're forcing them to take an to wear protective equipment for their mouth...which is new, but taking away the head gear? Which... fine, it's stupid, I was stupid and the 7 minutes is a TINY fraction of how much you actually Wrestle, but...it's a silly contradiction if implemented. Can anyone recall a match in which this made any type of difference? Seems to me they usually just stop them both. If someone is clearly initiating, fine, but otherwise...good change but kinda pointless. Again, is there are lot of wrongly penalized "flagrant misconduct" penalties? I'm asking, is that an issue? And the penalizing Wrestlers for unsportsmanlike conduct for throwing, tossing, spiking or sliding any piece of equipment? "Sliding/Tossing?" That's...moronic. So if I toss my headgear to my coach(I'm still wrestling and make Bo Nickal's cut look like child's play in this scenario) I am penalized and...then I get 48 hours to review the stupid penalty? It seems like the rules in place are sufficient. If you throw a fit, you'll cost your team AS IS. This is just looking to solve an issue that doesn't SEEM to exist in my opinion. I'll admit though... don't watch that many duels. Maybe 2-3 a week and I go to maybe 10 a year. So this could be a larger issue I suppose?

Oof. I am not sure I have that energy. But the real problem is I think it would be more than just height. The ratio of torso to height (or legs to height, either way) probably matters. I imagine the difference between wingspan and height is also indicative to a predisposition to be a better wrestler. And where are you gonna find those stats?

How about TJ Williams and John Fisher....Yanni has some "range as well.