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I moved to MN and started following NCAA wrestling in the late 80's, 90's so I have an anti-Iowa bias and I never saw some of the earlier legends that are on so many lists. D. Ness, B Askren and B. Andonian were a trio of the most exciting NCAA wrestlers because yo never knew what was going to happen next. Ryan Lewis was the right guy at the right time for my sons and I to be fans. It was all over once he hooked up those arm bars! Kole Konrad. Watching him compete against and eventually develop a strategy to defeat Mocco was exciting. Heroes need foils and the Conrad/Mocco rivalry was great. The Brandvold-era Gable Steveson. There was never a question of his physical talent but Steveson peaked when he had Brandvold in his corner to keep his mind right. Dake - Mr. Bright Lights. He always rose to the occasion. The bigger the stage the better he wrestled. Dieringer, Yianni and Vito would round out my list. Hot take: David Taylor is a popular choice here and an incredible wrestler, but I found him boring to watch.

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I'm on the spectrum and I've taken Tylenol. Even within the last hour. I like who I am, but I think Tylenol owes me reparations. Maybe I would be a better speeler.

Hi all, I find this instructive. Jonathan Turley had a debate at Colgate with Michael Klarman, the Charles Warren Professor of Legal History at Harvard Law School. The topic was on “Is There a Constitutional Crisis? How Would We Know?” Klarman took the affirmative view and Turley the opposing view. Turley gave a report on the debate here: https://jonathanturley.org/2025/09/23/the-turley-klarman-debate-a-video-and-a-response/ The first statement is really interesting. It goes like this: Professor Klarman stated at the outset that he would present a condensed version of a talk he had given at Harvard. As a result, he did not focus on the specific question presented beyond saying that what constitutes a “constitutional crisis” means different things to different people. Instead, he presented a list of grievances against Trump, the MAGA movement, the Supreme Court, Congress, and the media as evidence of the rise of fascism and authoritarianism in America. So Klarman did not even address the actual topic of the debate but went to other places. Not much of a debate if you can't stay on topic from the very get go. Klarman also said, “I am going to be extremely factual. Everything I say I can cite check chapter and verse for. You are right to beware of misinformation today but you are not going to get any of it from me.” Not only is this a quote from the article linked above, it is a direct quote of Klarmans. Interestingly, one of the first things he said was factually wrong. Turley, because of the topic of debate, did not get into all of the issues Klarman brought up because they were not on topic. But the below is one thing he did address at the time and he has a list of others he did not address at the time but addressed in this article. However Turley says that: I did address a couple of factual assertions during the debate. For example, Professor Klarman later claimed "that he had spoken completely factually and challenged the audience with “what did I say that is not true?”" And made the following statement: “[Trump pardoned] violent insurrectionists including several who were directly responsible for the death of police officers.” As we all know, no police officers died as a result of Jan 6. Only one person died as a result of Jan 6 and that was Ashli Babbit who was shot by Capitol Police. Officers did die of natural causes after Jan 6 and of suicide later on. So did protesters. Turley discussed this fairly thoroughly, saying: As I pointed out, only one person died during the January 6 riot, a protester named Ashli Babbitt. The claims that police officers died that day are false, though often repeated by politicians and pundits. The New York Times helped spread the false claim that Capitol Police Officer Brian Sicknick died as a result of being hit with a fire extinguisher. Sicknick suffered two strokes and died of natural causes the day after the riot. As a past correction states, “The medical examiner found Sicknick died of natural causes which means ‘a disease alone causes death. If death is hastened by an injury, the manner of death is not considered natural.’ Four other officers committed suicide days to months later.” Other officers died months later from such causes as suicide, but there is no direct causal link to the riot. So Klarman decided to air his quarrels rather than debate the topic. Which I find is a tactic used by the left mostly and some on the right. They make a statement off topic and pound on it and then change the topic to something else which is what Klarman did as you can see if you read the article. A video of the debate is included in the article so you can see it and not trust what Turely is saying. I think this experience is very emblematic of people having a debate not knowing the rules of a debate which is to stay on topic. This guy is a chair in the Harvard law school and can't even stay on topic. How did he ever get his law degree is a wonder and how he is at Harvard, the premier law school in the country is another wonder. Or maybe not. mspart

Well being that Gutfeld is the only one that's serves the right on late night that people would consider worth watching, it stands to reason he would have more viewers since Fallon, Colbert and Kimmel are all splitting that same audience. If you added up their respective audience they easily overshadow Gutfelds' audience. But who likes nuance these days anyways...

You sound like someone who just fell out of a coconut tree.

Potentially missing the ability to read and digest information as I stated above that I thought Tyler was the one who shot him.... You guys are saying some person named 'The Left' shot him and I don't know who that is...

Serious question. Is isis an actual organization? Should isis be designated a terror org ?

More threats of physical violence...

I actually happened the other is make believe.

Pretty sure Vikings were not part of our founding fathers for a reason.

A much better, more thorough, and cited paper. https://www.journalofdemocracy.org/articles/the-rise-of-political-violence-in-the-united-states/

Because it's not an actual organization and there's no official members. It's very simple. Watching the dumb wingers try to define who they are while constantly contradicting each other is both sad and entertaining. This is akin to designating " the wingers" as a terrorist group. Seriously. Dumbest thing ever, after saying Tylenol causes autism.

Good thing pro terrorist anti American people aren’t in charge boss.

The electoral college AND Senate BOTH need to be abolished. They're both crap and undermine principles of a representative democracy. I'd gut both of them with impunity.

Maybe the Democrats will learn one day that you don't win or lose an election with the popular vote. It has been the electoral votes that count and only the electoral votes. Trump won by 86 electoral votes. 312 t0 226. Right around a 16 Percent win.

Exactly...the goal isn't to get more popular votes. To talk about how close the popular vote was is a losers mentality.

From time to time I have a good one. @Tripnsweep @uncle bernard @red viking help us understand why you care so much about this designation? They caused billions of dollars of damage in black and brown cities that only made those cities worse in the short term. Ruined black owned businesses etc. the types of businesses the left is supposed to care about right ?

Some of us remember watching Jimmy Carson so it’s virtually impossible to watch nowadays. Jimmy reused to allow his personal opinion on politics into his shows and stayed purely with humor, sarcasm and quality guests. Leno and Letterman werent bad as today’s late night hosts are but were a drop of from Cason. I stopped watching all late night tv when they started pushing their own personal agendas. That includes not watching Guttfeld who’s got better ratings than Fallon, Colbert and blackface Kimmel.

2000 (not technically 21st century) Bush 271 Gore 266 and this after SCOTUS involvement 2004 Bush 286 Kerry 251 Closer than 2024 election 2008 Obama 365 McCain 173 2012 Obama 332 Romney 206 2016 Trump 304 clinton 227 Closer than 2024 election 2020 Biden 306 Trump 232 Closer than 2024 election 2024 Trump 312 Harris 226 4th closest election in the 21st century And there you have it. Kamala still can't tell the truth when the facts are staring her in the face. In fact she got the least electoral votes of 2 of the other losers. So not even close to being the closest race in the 21st century. Even when Trump lost he got more electoral votes than Kamala. mspart

Agreed unfortunately

Brooks better not be "around..."

I'm not so sure.

I believe Kerry McCoy is running their rtc. Good move for Kerk imo. Kerry can help him.